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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5775 on: August 24, 2013, 08:42:06 AM »
dunno if anyone've already posted it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS5vUJ8X_A

So LaBrie would like to play Trial of Tears, Scarred, Blind Faith, Take the Time and Octavarium, huh?  :eek

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5776 on: August 24, 2013, 08:47:19 AM »

"Take The Time", eh? Only if they do the WHOLE song!!! :tup

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5777 on: August 24, 2013, 08:56:22 AM »
Last time they played it, they omitted a section of the song (If there's a pensive fear...) for the whole tour.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5778 on: August 24, 2013, 08:58:37 AM »
Last time they played it, they omitted a section of the song (If there's a pensive fear...) for the whole tour.

Was it a part of a medley? Or did they flow into another song with it? Because I'm pretty sure that would've been a Portnooy thing, since JP said he didn't like the idea of fans listening to a song and not hearing their favorite parts of it.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5779 on: August 24, 2013, 09:00:04 AM »
Last time they played it, they omitted a section of the song (If there's a pensive fear...) for the whole tour.

Was it a part of a medley? Or did they flow into another song with it? Because I'm pretty sure that would've been a Portnooy thing, since JP said he didn't like the idea of fans listening to a song and not hearing their favorite parts of it.

It was the whole song, minus the verse with the really high vocals.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5780 on: August 24, 2013, 09:00:16 AM »
No, they just skipped that section, like they did with Voices as well. It was supposedly to save JLB's voice, but I'm sure he's on record somewhere saying that he didn't actually mind. I suspect it was an MP decision, but I can't be certain.

Around the 1:50 mark here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csy_sE7XtKQ

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5781 on: August 24, 2013, 09:03:19 AM »
Well, if he didn't mind, then I'm sure if they were to do it again, he'd fight to keep it.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5782 on: August 24, 2013, 09:13:27 AM »
So LaBrie would like to play Trial of Tears, Scarred, Blind Faith, Take the Time and Octavarium, huh?  :eek

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« Reply #5783 on: August 24, 2013, 09:23:14 AM »
As far as I know he voiced his mild disliking for New Millennium. Not sure about the others, but I think he may feel similarly to most of the fans with regard of which songs are good on FII.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5784 on: August 24, 2013, 10:00:26 AM »
https://www.prog-sphere.com/interviews/resurfacing-an-interview-with-james-labrie/

I can see a lot of references to this interview. James talks about cutting the difficult sections, as well as New millennium being one of his lesser favorites.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5785 on: August 24, 2013, 10:45:33 AM »
No, they just skipped that section, like they did with Voices as well. It was supposedly to save JLB's voice, but I'm sure he's on record somewhere saying that he didn't actually mind. I suspect it was an MP decision, but I can't be certain.



Edit: I incorrectly remembered James's statements.  In one of the previous interviews posted he mentions cutting the sections from the songs so no need for my faulty recollection. 

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5786 on: August 24, 2013, 02:01:47 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5787 on: August 24, 2013, 02:24:24 PM »
DT has thing for birds this time around. Not getting the connection to any of the song titles...  :justjen :corn
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« Reply #5788 on: August 24, 2013, 02:32:42 PM »
Im pretty sure it will be a concept album about birds  :hat
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5789 on: August 24, 2013, 02:35:31 PM »
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« Reply #5790 on: August 24, 2013, 02:40:11 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5791 on: August 24, 2013, 02:44:48 PM »
Don't you know about the bird?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5792 on: August 24, 2013, 02:46:17 PM »
As far as I know he voiced his mild disliking for New Millennium. Not sure about the others, but I think he may feel similarly to most of the fans with regard of which songs are good on FII.


You might have seen something that I haven't, but I recall saying that he felt that New Millennium wasn't received well live. This was when he was asked about songs he doesn't like to perform as much as others, and I'm pretty sure he mentioned that he likes to perform all of the songs.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5793 on: August 24, 2013, 02:53:07 PM »
:marriageanalogy:
If there wasn't a code for that emoticon already it could've been :conceptalbum: :lol

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I don't get it, this emoticon doesn't appear for me. All I see is ":marria" in a little box, with the "a" partially cut off.

Reload the page maybe?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5794 on: August 24, 2013, 02:55:19 PM »
As far as I know he voiced his mild disliking for New Millennium. Not sure about the others, but I think he may feel similarly to most of the fans with regard of which songs are good on FII.


You might have seen something that I haven't, but I recall saying that he felt that New Millennium wasn't received well live. This was when he was asked about songs he doesn't like to perform as much as others, and I'm pretty sure he mentioned that he likes to perform all of the songs.

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I don't get it, this emoticon doesn't appear for me. All I see is ":marria" in a little box, with the "a" partially cut off.

I remember JLB saying that he couldn't connect with the lyrics or the melodies at all, in the "resurfacing" interview if I remember correctly.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5795 on: August 24, 2013, 03:33:46 PM »
Don't you know about the bird?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5796 on: August 24, 2013, 10:13:18 PM »
Ok... Been away for a while. I get back and people seem to think I see a concept in the artwork. For the record.... I DON'T. Nor am I wishing this was a concept. It's not. However, with the last three releases from RR, the artwork has had some connection with the songs. For example: on ADTOE, the artwork on which the lyrics to Bridges in the Sky (aka The Shaman's Trance) was a dreamcatcher, commonly associated with native american shamanism. I can fully understand that connection. An example from BC&SL: The Shattered Fortress' lyrics were superimposed over a shattered bottle, indicating that it was part of the AA suite. The artwork that went with the lyrics for Prophets of War was ants carrying a bullet... All I'm saying is that, at this point, I can't connect the artwork to any of the songs on DT12. Should be interesting to see what song goes with which piece of artwork we've seen.
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« Reply #5797 on: August 24, 2013, 10:23:40 PM »
Ok... Been away for a while. I get back and people seem to think I see a concept in the artwork. For the record.... I DON'T. Nor am I wishing this was a concept. It's not. However, with the last three releases from RR, the artwork has had some connection with the songs. For example: on ADTOE, the artwork on which the lyrics to Bridges in the Sky (aka The Shaman's Trance) was a dreamcatcher, commonly associated with native american shamanism. I can fully understand that connection. An example from BC&SL: The Shattered Fortress' lyrics were superimposed over a shattered bottle, indicating that it was part of the AA suite. The artwork that went with the lyrics for Prophets of War was ants carrying a bullet... All I'm saying is that, at this point, I can't connect the artwork to any of the songs on DT12. Should be interesting to see what song goes with which piece of artwork we've seen.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5798 on: August 25, 2013, 07:11:10 AM »
Syme has done that before with the picture for a song in the booklet for Rush.  It makes sense.
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« Reply #5799 on: August 25, 2013, 08:39:40 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5801 on: August 25, 2013, 08:44:50 AM »
Fake. Im pretty sure that someone here that heard the album said that the drum banging part from the 4th video is on the first song not EM.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5802 on: August 25, 2013, 08:45:39 AM »



Don't know if this has already been posted, but there are some snippets out for some of the songs. Apparently they come from the studio. Does anyone know if these are at all trustworthy? Seems weird that Dream Theater themselves haven't mentioned them on facebook or twitter as they normally do with releases like these.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5803 on: August 25, 2013, 09:01:02 AM »
Yeah, I would get rid of those links immediately. I can also confirm that they are 100% fake.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5804 on: August 25, 2013, 09:07:50 AM »
Don't know if this has already been posted, but there are some snippets out for some of the songs. Apparently they come from the studio. Does anyone know if these are at all trustworthy? Seems weird that Dream Theater themselves haven't mentioned them on facebook or twitter as they normally do with releases like these.

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« Reply #5805 on: August 25, 2013, 09:12:36 AM »
You should add a rule stating explicitely that those two snippets are fake, so don't even bother taking a warning for that shizz.  :lol

It's the fourth time those two pop up, right? :D
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5806 on: August 25, 2013, 09:23:32 AM »
HERD A NU DREAM THATRE SONG !!!!  :metal :metal ITS GUD...JAMES IS SINGING ABOUT JEKYL N HIDE... ITS REOCKIN....

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« Reply #5807 on: August 25, 2013, 09:29:13 AM »
Don't know if this has already been posted, but there are some snippets out for some of the songs. Apparently they come from the studio. Does anyone know if these are at all trustworthy? Seems weird that Dream Theater themselves haven't mentioned them on facebook or twitter as they normally do with releases like these.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5809 on: August 25, 2013, 10:06:03 AM »
HERD A NU DREAM THATRE SONG !!!!  :metal :metal ITS GUD...JAMES IS SINGING ABOUT JEKYL N HIDE... ITS REOCKIN....

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