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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2345 on: July 23, 2013, 06:54:57 AM »
Haha, I think the argument can be made for 8V. But let's not go into that again :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2346 on: July 23, 2013, 06:58:09 AM »
Quote from: cyberdrummer on July 23, 2013, 06:54:57 AM
Haha, I think the argument can be made for 8V. But let's not go into that again :lol

Instead of arguing it, I'll just agree to disagree and add this-
If you consider Octavarium a concept album, then I don't think it's anywhere near as far fetched that the new album would meet the same criteria. But I don't see it being a concept album in the same sense as SFAM.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2347 on: July 23, 2013, 06:59:59 AM »
I also think that's more likely. Finally we reach agreement!


Though I'd prefer a full-on concept like SFAM.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2348 on: July 23, 2013, 07:03:08 AM »
:hifive:

Hooray! Now back to our regular scheduled programming of debating whether the album will be 70 minutes in length, or only 69:45 in length.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2349 on: July 23, 2013, 07:06:21 AM »
Oh god, first the prog vs progressive argument, now the concept album argument-I'll see this part of the forums when a single arrives.  :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2350 on: July 23, 2013, 07:07:32 AM »
But will there be a single? /anotherrecycleddebate

Back on topic, I can't be the only one hoping to hear more classic synthesizer sounds from JR on this album?
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2351 on: July 23, 2013, 07:21:32 AM »
As far as I know, promo copies will be around in mid-august, so I think we can expect a single in the first days of the next month, just in time for the pre-orders.

Also, seems like Tio Emilio keeps talking about the album:



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No, there's no big changes at all.

It reminds me, like ADTOE, to the old Dream Theater from Scenes form A Memory and previous albums. It has more accessible choruses, and more "songs", but there is some mad things too. Even the instrumental is a "song"...
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2352 on: July 23, 2013, 07:24:43 AM »
Insightful stuff. Now I'm a believer! :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2353 on: July 23, 2013, 07:26:21 AM »
Ugh... I'm disappointed. I wasn't expecting the instrumental to be a song at all  :tdwn
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2354 on: July 23, 2013, 07:27:36 AM »
Quote from: wasteland on July 23, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
Ugh... I'm disappointed. I wasn't expecting the instrumental to be a song at all  :tdwn

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2355 on: July 23, 2013, 07:28:48 AM »
So, it reminds him not only of A Dramatic Turn of Events - but crucially, every preceding Dream Theater album as well


Well i think that's all we need to know.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2356 on: July 23, 2013, 07:30:09 AM »
The spanish review talks about a "eletronic drum sound" on DT12... maybe it sounds like the drums sound on James Labrie's EoP (same engineer and mixer, remember?). It sounds a bit triggered there, but I think it's cool and miles better than the one o ADToE. And less keyboard solos doesn't mean less keyboard on the cd... Awake has few keyboard solos and I think the keys arrangements are also very cool.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2357 on: July 23, 2013, 07:30:44 AM »
Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 23, 2013, 07:24:43 AM
Insightful stuff. Now I'm a believer! :lol

But an instrumental "IS" a song!! :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2358 on: July 23, 2013, 07:32:01 AM »
You guys  :lol

I'll try to explain the meaning he's intending with "song". Put it this way: it would be more like Ytse Jam, but not like TDOE, for example. That meaning it'd have something similar to a classic song structure.

And for the rest of the tracklist, I suppose he's referring to the same thing: classic structure, short and concise songs. Nothing new, really, but that's it.

I don't know how to explain it better, sorry  :-\
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2359 on: July 23, 2013, 07:33:46 AM »
Yeah, I got what he was trying to say and the description sounds promising, because I don't want another TDOE :)
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2360 on: July 23, 2013, 07:35:12 AM »
wait... have we established the credibility of this guy or are we just taking his word for it because we're so desperate for DT news?  :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2361 on: July 23, 2013, 07:39:54 AM »
Quote from: atmyne on July 23, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
wait... have we established the credibility of this guy or are we just taking his word for it because we're so desperate for DT news?  :lol

I still don't really believe him that much, but yeah, we're all really pent up for news.


And am I the only one here who likes TDOE?
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2362 on: July 23, 2013, 07:41:39 AM »
Quote from: Lucien on July 23, 2013, 07:39:54 AM
Quote from: atmyne on July 23, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
wait... have we established the credibility of this guy or are we just taking his word for it because we're so desperate for DT news?  :lol

I still don't really believe him that much, but yeah, we're all really pent up for news.


And am I the only one here who likes TDOE?

Nope, I like it too. When I listen to SFAM, I listen to all of it, I don't skip TDOE or anything else. No need to. :hat
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2363 on: July 23, 2013, 07:41:45 AM »
Quote from: ? on July 23, 2013, 07:33:46 AM
the description sounds promising

yep
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2364 on: July 23, 2013, 08:05:04 AM »
Quote from: Lucien on July 23, 2013, 07:39:54 AM
Quote from: atmyne on July 23, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
wait... have we established the credibility of this guy or are we just taking his word for it because we're so desperate for DT news?  :lol

I still don't really believe him that much, but yeah, we're all really pent up for news.


And am I the only one here who likes TDOE?

TDOE was in the top 5 of my rankings thread - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35446.0 

Still my favorite instrumental track the band has done.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2365 on: July 23, 2013, 08:10:38 AM »
Nothing beats Overture 1928 :heart
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2366 on: July 23, 2013, 08:11:15 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2367 on: July 23, 2013, 08:12:49 AM »
We're doing this then? Ok.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2368 on: July 23, 2013, 08:14:53 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2369 on: July 23, 2013, 08:16:16 AM »
Quote from: Elite on July 23, 2013, 08:12:49 AM
We're doing this then? Ok.

Quote from: aprilethereal on July 23, 2013, 08:10:38 AM
Nothing beats Hell's Kitchen :heart

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holy shit I was literally going to post the exact same thing  :|
hells kitchen doesn't get enough love imo.  :metal

Also i'm not taking that guys incredibly uninformative synopsis seriously at all unless someone can demonstrate why I should believe him lol.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2370 on: July 23, 2013, 08:17:35 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2371 on: July 23, 2013, 08:20:09 AM »
Quote from: Elite on July 23, 2013, 07:27:36 AM
Quote from: wasteland on July 23, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
Ugh... I'm disappointed. I wasn't expecting the instrumental to be a song at all  :tdwn

:lol

Well, for what it's worth, a "song" technically requires lyrics.  We on DTF (and I think the rock community in general) misuses that word.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2372 on: July 23, 2013, 08:22:57 AM »
Quote from: Elite on July 23, 2013, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Lucien on July 23, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
Quote from: aprilethereal on July 23, 2013, 08:10:38 AM
Nothing beats Octavarium :heart

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But... we were doing instrumentals.

Octavarium can be whatever the hell it wants to be  ;D

On a side note, I think I get what Jose Cuervo up there said in his review, and I could stand the instrumental having a "song"-like structure.  SOC kinda has that structure, and that's my favorite instrumental. We shall see. Oh yes, we shall see.
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« Reply #2373 on: July 23, 2013, 08:23:10 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2374 on: July 23, 2013, 08:31:48 AM »
is it possible to have a link of the spanish forum? just to satisfy my curiosity...
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2375 on: July 23, 2013, 08:45:01 AM »
Hey, guys.  Don't log off.  Cool stuff is coming in about 15 minutes.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2376 on: July 23, 2013, 08:45:55 AM »
What???
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2377 on: July 23, 2013, 08:47:41 AM »
Quote from: The Stray Seed on July 23, 2013, 08:45:55 AM
What???
I said:
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2378 on: July 23, 2013, 08:47:52 AM »
Single? Or is that too cool?
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #2379 on: July 23, 2013, 08:48:35 AM »
Well, I could answer that.  But since I still have 12 minutes to go, I'd have to kill myself.
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