Author Topic: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - [SPOILER FREE DISCUSSION ONLY] (Read 912632 times)

TheLordOfTheStrings · « **Reply #2205 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:05:58 PM »

I really don't give a fuck what that guy thinks of it, or what anyone thinks of it, to be honest. I care what I think of it.

Jinx · « **Reply #2206 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:06:54 PM »

If thats true, HOW could they make the drums sound bad?

Lucien · « **Reply #2207 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:08:06 PM »

I don't believe in this guy's opinion.

TheLordOfTheStrings · « **Reply #2208 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:09:00 PM »

Well, I'll admit I haven't liked Mangini's snare sound on anything he's done. I doubt the drums will sound bad, but I probably still won't like his snare sound.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #2209 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:09:54 PM »

By bad he could just mean they're not upfront and hidden away like they were a lot of the time in ADToE..
I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

Lucidity · « **Reply #2210 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:11:59 PM »

Quote from: TheVoxyn on July 22, 2013, 05:05:12 PM

Quote from: Joshin U on July 22, 2013, 09:18:46 AM

Radiohead...?

RADIOHEAD?

RADIOHEAD??!!

Is Radiohead even kind of considered progressive around here?
>2013
>Having such a bad opinion

ISHYGDDT

Radiohead has got to be one of the most progressive artists of the decade.

Pepe108 · « **Reply #2211 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:13:02 PM »

He says the drums sound like electronic or midi. Redoing Images And Words again, DT?

Flacracker · « **Reply #2212 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:13:25 PM »

How did that guy receive ADToE?

Pepe108 · « **Reply #2213 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:14:43 PM »

Seems like first promotional copies are being distributed.

Lucien · « **Reply #2214 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:14:55 PM »

Quote from: Pepe108 on July 22, 2013, 05:13:02 PM

He says the drums sound like electronic or midi. Redoing Images And Words again, DT?

$:\$

Flacracker · « **Reply #2215 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:21:52 PM »

Quote from: Pepe108 on July 22, 2013, 05:14:43 PM

Seems like first promotional copies are being distributed.

Are you sure you are translating that right? It looks like that carlosmalmsteen guy is saying a continuation of ADTOE. And Tio Emulio is saying that for him it is better than ADToE if you look at "para mi bastante mejor que A Dramatic turn" Also that Carlosmalmsteen has 3 posts so I dont think he is anyone.

Pepe108 · « **Reply #2216 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:24:42 PM »

He says that DT12 is better than ADTOE, but that they just followed the same direction.

dparrott · « **Reply #2217 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:35:27 PM »

Yeaaaahhh....I don't trust it. I doubt they'd really let the drums sound like MIDI. And Jordan's just limited to a little bit of piano???

Pepe108 · « **Reply #2218 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:37:06 PM »

He also speaks about the lack of keyboard solos, which matches with what we saw in the progress chart.

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #2219 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:38:10 PM »

Quote from: Pepe108 on July 22, 2013, 05:13:02 PM

He says the drums sound like electronic or midi. Redoing Images And Words again, DT?

Slightly:

but mostly:

Mindflux · « **Reply #2220 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:42:23 PM »

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tiagodon · « **Reply #2221 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:47:00 PM »

Spain is in crisis. Don't give this guy too much credit!

matte.braso · « **Reply #2222 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:50:31 PM »

Quote from: Pepe108 on July 22, 2013, 05:04:09 PM

Here in Spain, there is a famous musical journalist called "Tío Emilio" who likes to discuss music with fans in a forum, and he just received... Well...

I'm not gonna trust him. Horrible drums which sound like a midi??? Definitely impossible. Rudess not much present is another doubtful statement, considering his enormous amount of instruments he' s played in the album (pretty the same as in ADTOE plus the Seabord) and he's written all the parts for the orchestra as well.

RMGadelha · « **Reply #2223 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:51:00 PM »

Quite interesting also how he didn't mention anything about Illumination Theory... But Pepe, isn't "bastante" an ambiguous word? At least in Brazilian Portuguese it can mean both "a lot" and "enough". I could understand all the text since Spanish is mandatory in schools here, but do you think that he used "bastante" as enough or as "a lot" there?

Edit 1: Eh, now that I read it again, it really seems he used it as "a lot". It's just the way he described the album afterwards that confused me.

Edit 2: Could it be possible that he didn't receive a high quality version of the album?

The Fatal Tragedy · « **Reply #2224 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:01:59 PM »

By "midi" sounding, I think he means some of the drums sound triggered (like the extremely cheesy snare effect used in Images and Words)

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #2225 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:03:12 PM »

I like the snare on Images And Words. I would be pleased if it returned.

Nest777 · « **Reply #2226 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:09:46 PM »

I've made my best to translate it

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70 minutes of CD. I’m going to listen to it for the first time.

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I’ve listened to it many times. I’m not trolling. Other forum users have had the honor of listening to it, too. My favorite track by now is The Looking Glass, it has a strong Rush vibe. Very Limelight. For me, it’s way better than A Dramatic Turn of Events… it follows the same path, though.

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I’ve listened to it thanks to Tio Emilio. To sum up, in the first listen it seems like a continuation of ADTOE, it’s not a turning point, nor a back to the roots, nothing, hope nobody’s waiting for any surprises. If you liked the last one (I suppose everyone here liked it), you’ll like this one. That’s why I just don’t understand why it is self-titled. In the sonic aspect, I think the drums sound awful (I’m talking about the sound, specifically), in general everything sounds a little worse than in a CD, but the drums are NOT WELL, it sounds like an electronic kit. Seems like MIDI… It’s also surprised me that Rudess has had very few participation on the record, restricting himself to backing keyboards and some piano stuff. I remember just a few solos. Less presence, in general.

RMGadelha · « **Reply #2227 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:13:09 PM »

Well, I really loved ADTOE, So if it's indeed way better, that's a good sign for me. No mentions of Illumination Theory and what he said about the drums worry me a bit though...

VincentMDO · « **Reply #2228 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:18:33 PM »

70min?

I was hoping for a 78min+ album.

jonnybaxy · « **Reply #2229 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:20:12 PM »

Can't CDs only hold 74 mins?

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #2230 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:21:21 PM »

Quote from: jonnybaxy on July 22, 2013, 06:20:12 PM

Can't CDs only hold 74 mins?

The Whirlwind says no.

RMGadelha · « **Reply #2231 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:22:31 PM »

According to Wikipedia, ADTOE has 77:05 minutes. Well, that podcast said that other than the 20 minute epic, there were short songs as well.

TheVoxyn · « **Reply #2232 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:23:40 PM »

Quote from: Lucidity on July 22, 2013, 05:11:59 PM

Quote from: TheVoxyn on July 22, 2013, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: Joshin U on July 22, 2013, 09:18:46 AM

Radiohead...?

RADIOHEAD?

RADIOHEAD??!!

Is Radiohead even kind of considered progressive around here?
>2013
>Having such a bad opinion

ISHYGDDT

Radiohead has got to be one of the most progressive artists of the decade.

Oh, I agree with you. I was flabbergasted myself that someone on a DT board, who have been using the same trick since the first album, could say something bad about Radioheads progressiveness.

Jaffa · « **Reply #2233 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:27:25 PM »

Quote from: jonnybaxy on July 22, 2013, 06:20:12 PM

Can't CDs only hold 74 mins?

FII, SFAM, 8VM, SC, BC&SL, and ADTOE all exceed 74 minutes.

Super Dude · « **Reply #2234 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:30:37 PM »

Quote from: Pepe108 on July 22, 2013, 05:24:42 PM

He says that DT12 is better than ADTOE, but that they just followed the same direction.

I don't see how anyone's shocked by this after the last four albums. Not that it's *that* bad of a thing if it works, but that's almost a decade of pretty much not breaking new ground. I think they're done trying to do that.

Jinx · « **Reply #2235 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:33:11 PM »

70 mins? Would that not make it like the 2nd shortest album after IAW?

Elite · « **Reply #2236 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:34:10 PM »

Quote from: theseoafs on July 22, 2013, 04:34:20 PM

Jesus Christ, DTF:

*typical awesome seoafs rant*

Thank you, my friend.

Oh, and The Voxyn is obviously definitely right sbout the Radiohead debate.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #2237 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:34:59 PM »

at the "Only 70 minutes?" Comments

Deve · « **Reply #2238 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:35:16 PM »

Damn, I was really hoping the drums to be more prevalent on the new record. $:-\$ A huge reason I got into DT is because the drums are right there in your face. Probably the main reason ADTOE didn't do it for me.

jonnybaxy · « **Reply #2239 on:** July 22, 2013, 06:36:07 PM »

Quote from: Jaffa on July 22, 2013, 06:27:25 PM

Quote from: jonnybaxy on July 22, 2013, 06:20:12 PM
Can't CDs only hold 74 mins?

FII, SFAM, 8VM, SC, BC&SL, and ADTOE all exceed 74 minutes.

Oh yeah... They must have better data storage than I learned in Music history, my bad

News: Track-by-track video for Untethered Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co1_h0GtAw

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