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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2013, 11:03:55 AM »
The only thing that bothers me about this cover is that there is no shadow of the balls on the ground.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2013, 11:05:44 AM »
Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 10:14:06 AM
Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?
I wasn't, but now I am. Thanks a lot, friend.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2013, 11:08:58 AM »
Quote from: yorost on June 21, 2013, 11:05:44 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 10:14:06 AM
Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?
I wasn't, but now I am. Thanks a lot, friend.

One day - someone must write an article about it for all of us relative n00bs to read :lol
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2013, 11:24:57 AM »
I don't think the cover "ruins" the album or anything, but there are some people who'll catch things like that, and it will bother them always.  When I first saw the cover, I thought something looked a bit off, but couldn't figure out what it was.  Less than a day later, the angle of the fourth ball had been analyzed and found to be wrong, and the entire analysis was posted here.  I really was glad that I didn't have to do the work myself, because now I know what's "wrong" about it.  And it was also heartening to know that I wasn't the only one bothered by it.

This is published work.  Someone signed their name to it, took credit for it.  It is amazing that it could be so sloppy, when just a little more effort would have avoided all of it.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2013, 11:30:50 AM »
Quote from: Orbert on June 21, 2013, 11:24:57 AM

This is published work.  Someone signed their name to it, took credit for it.  It is amazing that it could be so sloppy, when just a little more effort would have avoided all of it.

Even more amazing is that someone (or a group of people) looked it over/proofed it and ultimately approved it.

Several person FAIL.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2013, 11:55:57 AM »
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
More old Octavarium album cover news:  If you look at the entire jacket laid out straight, you'll notice that it's a keyboard:

*snip

The balls are the white keys, the birds are the black keys.  The ball on each end is "F".

Ha! Thanks for pointing that one out. This is the first time I noticed this.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2013, 12:16:49 PM »
All this talk about balls made me realize that I have a really dirty mind.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2013, 12:50:57 PM »
Quote from: goo-goo on June 21, 2013, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
More old Octavarium album cover news:  If you look at the entire jacket laid out straight, you'll notice that it's a keyboard:

*snip

The balls are the white keys, the birds are the black keys.  The ball on each end is "F".

Ha! Thanks for pointing that one out. This is the first time I noticed this.

Which now that I think about it is all the more interesting.  The balls start and end with what is represented to be the F key.

What's the very first note in Root of All Evil?

F on the piano.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2013, 12:57:19 PM »
It's the entire album.  "The Root of All Evil" is in F, "The Answer Lies Within" is in G, etc.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2013, 12:59:21 PM »
OMGZ..... This album is the rockers! CRUCIFY!!!!
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2013, 12:59:57 PM »
Oh, my. The day has come.

The cult of the Octavarium forum has waited for this.

From the ashes... IT WILL RISE!
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2013, 01:04:57 PM »
Im telling you , it looks like Myung
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2013, 01:11:37 PM »
CRUFICY
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2013, 01:15:07 PM »
I'd also like to point out that if the thing you're unhappy about with the balls not being rotated is the shiny-bit, that would't be changed, due to how far away the sun is.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2013, 01:21:20 PM »
Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on June 21, 2013, 11:03:55 AM
The only thing that bothers me about this cover is that there is no shadow of the balls on the ground.

They had already lifted the shadows off of it... :neverusethis:

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
More old Octavarium album cover news:  If you look at the entire jacket laid out straight, you'll notice that it's a keyboard:



The balls are the white keys, the birds are the black keys.  The ball on each end is "F".

I also see 5 birds and 8 balls...it's like there's a theme or something...
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2013, 02:09:17 PM »
 :lol

Simple answer.  I could care less.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2013, 02:11:06 PM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on June 21, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
:lol

Simple answer.  I could care less.

WARNING: Someone will comment on this slip
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2013, 02:11:46 PM »
Quote from: lyfeternl on June 21, 2013, 01:21:20 PM
I also see 5 birds and 8 balls...it's like there's a theme or something...

I see 8,500,000 blades of grass.

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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2013, 02:14:00 PM »
Quote from: lyfeternl on June 21, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on June 21, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
:lol

Simple answer.  I could care less.

WARNING: Someone will comment on this slip

Only a crazy(aga) would dare.  ROOOOOOOAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2013, 02:14:46 PM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on June 21, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
:lol

Simple answer.  I could care less.

Could or Couldn't ?
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2013, 02:21:34 PM »
American phrase suckas! :P

Yeah yeah you grammar police. :lol
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2013, 02:35:56 PM »
Well if you could care less - that means you care at least an infinitesimal amount ;)
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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2013, 02:42:58 PM »
Nope.  It's am American slang that took out the n't about a decade after the phrase came into use.  It is grammatically incorrect but it is used in the states and still means the same.  I could give a flying leap about these silly little things that people with all the time in the world want to debate ad nauseum like it means anything to everybody who is on the internet and real life.


Run-on if you are wondering.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2013, 02:48:24 PM »
 ::)

Like correct spelling...

Quote from: kingshmegland on June 21, 2013, 02:42:58 PM
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2013, 02:52:29 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on June 21, 2013, 02:48:24 PM
::)

Like correct spelling...

Quote from: kingshmegland on June 21, 2013, 02:42:58 PM
I could give a flying leap about these silly little things...

Sigh.  Here you go.  Jesus, use the internet you are on if you want to play semantics.

https://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ico1.htm
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2013, 03:29:56 PM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on June 21, 2013, 02:42:58 PM
Nope.  It's am American slang that took out the n't about a decade after the phrase came into use.  It is grammatically incorrect but it is used in the states and still means the same.  I could give a flying leap about these silly little things that people with all the time in the world want to debate ad nauseum like it means anything to everybody who is on the internet and real life.


Run-on if you are wondering.
In fairness, it's not a grammatical thing so much as a semantic thing. It's that the words don't mean that thing when they put them in that order.

That said, if it's good enough for this Webster, it's good enough for this Webster. I'm not personally going to start using it any time soon, but human language has been morphing for two billion years now, no use getting precious about a particular incarnation.

...Crikey, I'm pedantic today!
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2013, 03:44:52 PM »
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 11:01:06 AM
Quote from: Mindflux on June 21, 2013, 10:57:38 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1: Why are you thinking about balls?

Guy #2:
 

FTFY

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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2013, 04:37:30 PM »
Never knew about this, but go figure. Hugh Syme stinks.

But hey! He did pretty bad covers for Rush, too! At least he DT covers don't have asses on them :P
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2013, 04:40:00 PM »
Does anyone else have this weird feeling like Hugh Syme's going to register and start defending the Octavarium cover? It's been that kind of a week.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2013, 05:21:38 PM »
He won't be able to defend ADToE...
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2013, 05:27:53 PM »
Power Windows had a good album cover. Of course, that was an acrylic painting.
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2013, 07:28:39 PM »
ROFLMAO. i really like threads like this , i made a drawing too, but only using paint :(

But first i have to say that i dont understand why two balls are in the air, just 1 sould be to work  :lol :lol :lol


used pixels to measure horizontal and vertical lines  :biggrin:
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2013, 07:34:30 PM »
I don't even
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2013, 07:42:48 PM »
Quote from: TheAtliator on June 21, 2013, 10:21:32 AM
Wow, I've never noticed that the geometry of the first and last balls are off. Now I can't un-see that.. damnit  :lol thanks a lot guys lol

Ugh same. I actually really like this album cover, but now it's going to bother me.

 And now it's really obvious how they did it. You don't even need math. You could do it correctly pretty easily. Instead of making the ball and string first, then rotating it about the correct point off canvas, they just copied the ball on the far left, moved it up a bit diagonally. They didn't even rotate the ball. Then they just rotated the string a bit and bit wherever it ended up. Stuck a diagonal Majesty symbol and there and mirrored it on the back. Laaaaaaaazy. At least he matched the angle of the symbol and the string.  :\

(sometimes it's just fun to complain about dumb things.)
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Re: The flaws in octavarium's album art.
« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2013, 12:57:05 PM »
The best part is when you look on the back cover, it shows the band members faces on different keys of a piano, and James... is on F#.

NO JOKE
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