Author Topic: The flaws in octavarium's album art. (Read 23417 times)

VincentMDO · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:23:38 AM »

Here we go.

Mindflux · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:24:45 AM »

Totally. All that grass is clone stamped too.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:27:54 AM »

This is new.

Said 2005.

Lucien · « **Reply #4 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:28:08 AM »

This is what we do at DTF

Zook · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:28:57 AM »

That's not even the final artwork.

Mindflux · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:30:10 AM »

One has a Majesty logo! All the balls aren't the same

Zook · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:33:43 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 09:27:54 AM

This is new.

Said 2005.

Wasn't this picture made in 2005 anyway? I think crazyaga is having a nostalgia moment.

Sycsa · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:38:33 AM »

Probably the ugliest DT album cover of all. I'd rather look at the hairy armpit of the WDADU guy.

crazyaga · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:39:30 AM »

Quote from: Mindflux on June 21, 2013, 09:30:10 AM

One has a Majesty logo! All the balls aren't the same

Yes they are. 1st and 3rd ball are mirror images, and the 4th ball is the same as the 1st ball just with a DT logo.

Mindflux · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:41:26 AM »

Quote from: crazyaga on June 21, 2013, 09:39:30 AM

Yes they are. 1st and 3rd ball are mirror images, and the 4th ball is the same as the 1st ball just with a DT logo.

yorost · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:46:11 AM »

I find it to be an eyesore because of the terrible geometry.

Dublagent66 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:52:23 AM »

Wow, someone has the time to even care about that?

RoeDent · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:01:58 AM »

I'm more concerned about the "tin can and string" artwork inside the booklet. I would've put the speaking boy on the first page, and the listening boy on the last page. So the first boy is speaking the words of the album to the last boy.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:05:08 AM »

Quote from: RoeDent on June 21, 2013, 10:01:58 AM

I'm more concerned about the "tin can and string" artwork inside the booklet. I would've put the speaking boy on the first page, and the listening boy on the last page. So the first boy is speaking the words of the album to the last boy.

But it's correct as is, to fit the cyclical theme of the album. Having the boy on the first page talking to the boy on the last page would be too finite.

yorost · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:06:36 AM »

Quote from: Dublagent66 on June 21, 2013, 09:52:23 AM

Wow, someone has the time to even care about that?

To me the geometry sticks out plain as day. It just is unpleasant to look at, whether or not I care about the artwork.

Big Hath · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:08:08 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 10:05:08 AM

Quote from: RoeDent on June 21, 2013, 10:01:58 AM
I'm more concerned about the "tin can and string" artwork inside the booklet. I would've put the speaking boy on the first page, and the listening boy on the last page. So the first boy is speaking the words of the album to the last boy.

But it's correct as is, to fit the cyclical theme of the album. Having the boy on the first page talking to the boy on the last page would be too finite.

the cord from the first can should go into the back of the head of the next boy who in turn is speaking into a can . . .

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:08:58 AM »

More old Octavarium album cover news: If you look at the entire jacket laid out straight, you'll notice that it's a keyboard:

The balls are the white keys, the birds are the black keys. The ball on each end is "F".

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:14:06 AM »

Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?

robwebster · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:17:38 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 10:14:06 AM

Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?

I still hear the voices.

The incorrect angle was much-discussed. Over-discussed. No problem discussing it again - lots of new people here, why wouldn't we! - but Setlist Scotty even corrected it on the 20th anniversary poster.

The first draft, Hugh Syme's patented black bar didn't quite stretch across the bottom, and the strings didn't have much texture (or didn't have hooks, or something?) and they went back and fixed it.

Despite all this... I think Octavarium's still one of the most striking covers in the DT discography.

Big Hath · « **Reply #20 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:20:15 AM »

is that John Myung?

Mindflux · « **Reply #21 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:20:53 AM »

Quote from: Big Hath on June 21, 2013, 10:20:15 AM

is that John Myung?

no.

TheAtliator · « **Reply #22 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:21:32 AM »

Wow, I've never noticed that the geometry of the first and last balls are off. Now I can't un-see that.. damnit

thanks a lot guys lol

One would think they would have taken the two seconds and looked up the geometric equation and got it right!

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #23 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:25:29 AM »

Quote from: robwebster on June 21, 2013, 10:17:38 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 10:14:06 AM
Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?
I still hear the voices.

The incorrect angle was much-discussed. Over-discussed. No problem discussing it again - lots of new people here, why wouldn't we! - but Setlist Scotty even corrected it on the 20th anniversary poster.

The first draft, Hugh Syme's patented black bar didn't quite stretch across the bottom, and the strings didn't have much texture (or didn't have hooks, or something?) and they went back and fixed it.

Despite all this... I think Octavarium's still one of the most striking covers in the DT discography.

The draft didn't have the loops. Even the final one didn't have a textured rope though.
And I agree it's one of DT's better covers, and one of Hugh Syme's better works for the band, including the booklet artwork.

robwebster · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:27:30 AM »

Especially the booklet art!

Hugh Syme has a funny habit of coupling slightly dodgy cover art with great stuff inside the booklet. I think Octavarium's a really cool cover, geometry or no, but the booklet art is still utterly kickin'.

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #25 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:28:38 AM »

The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.

robwebster · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:30:56 AM »

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:28:38 AM

The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.

Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:32:21 AM »

Quote from: robwebster on June 21, 2013, 10:30:56 AM

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.
Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

Just like we noticed that the band's font on ADTOE is squished vertically to 84% of the correct height. RAGE!

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #28 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:34:33 AM »

Well, yeah, but when there are references to geometry and angles and it being "flawed", my mind goes to "Hmph. That's funny. Never would've noticed. All the while, I was over here headbanging to Root of All Evil".

robwebster · « **Reply #29 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:37:47 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 10:32:21 AM

Quote from: robwebster on June 21, 2013, 10:30:56 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.
Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

Just like we noticed that the band's font on ADTOE is squished vertically to 84% of the correct height. RAGE!

On which note, I'm fine with the stock photography, the black bars, and the constant barrage of overly literal visual puns, but I will never understand why Hugh Syme is so hell-bent on squashing that logo up, nowadays.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #30 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:39:50 AM »

Quote from: robwebster on June 21, 2013, 10:37:47 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: robwebster on June 21, 2013, 10:30:56 AM
Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.
Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

Just like we noticed that the band's font on ADTOE is squished vertically to 84% of the correct height. RAGE!
On which note, I'm fine with the stock photography, the black bars, and the constant barrage of overly literal visual puns, but I will never understand why Hugh Syme is so hell-bent on squashing that logo up, nowadays.

And I promise I will rage to important people if it happens on DT12.

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #31 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:56:55 AM »

Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1:

Mindflux · « **Reply #32 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:57:38 AM »

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:56:55 AM

Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1: Why are you thinking about balls?

Guy #2:

FTFY

robwebster · « **Reply #33 on:** June 21, 2013, 11:00:03 AM »

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:56:55 AM

Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1:

You're right, that is completely barmy.

And if it ever happens, I will inform the town elders at once.

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #34 on:** June 21, 2013, 11:01:06 AM »

Quote from: Mindflux on June 21, 2013, 10:57:38 AM

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1: Why are you thinking about balls?

Guy #2:

FTFY

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Author Topic: The flaws in octavarium's album art. (Read 23417 times)