Author Topic: 2013-14 NBA thread v. Adam Silver Lays the Pipe on Donald Sterling ©2014antigoon (Read 113819 times)

Nekov · « **Reply #35 on:** June 24, 2013, 04:45:49 PM »

Maybe they want to get Okafor as a starter and trade Boozer for a SF? Jimmy Butler should not be the starter, they need someone who can get open to give Rose some space and shoot the ball from long distance if the defense collapses to the key. Butler is not that guy

snapple · « **Reply #36 on:** June 24, 2013, 04:47:39 PM »

LeBron is going to pass Jordan, yo.

KevShmev · « **Reply #37 on:** June 24, 2013, 04:55:52 PM »

I am amused by the people who repeatedly say, "Nobody will ever surpass Jordan." What they are basically saying is, "I am so biased that no matter what any other player does ever, I will continue to stick my fingers in my ears while babbling 'Jordan is the best ever' incoherently like Lloyd Christmas."

Aefenwelg · « **Reply #38 on:** June 24, 2013, 05:20:14 PM »

Quote from: Nekov on June 24, 2013, 04:45:49 PM

Maybe they want to get Okafor as a starter and trade Boozer for a SF? Jimmy Butler should not be the starter, they need someone who can get open to give Rose some space and shoot the ball from long distance if the defense collapses to the key. Butler is not that guy

Butler was the 2nd leading player on the Bulls for 3p% behind Hinrich last season. The expectation is that Butler can definitely be that guy.

snapple · « **Reply #39 on:** June 24, 2013, 05:25:49 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on June 24, 2013, 04:55:52 PM

I am amused by the people who repeatedly say, "Nobody will ever surpass Jordan." What they are basically saying is, "I am so biased that no matter what any other player does ever, I will continue to stick my fingers in my ears while babbling 'Jordan is the best ever' incoherently like Lloyd Christmas."

I get super amused by it, too. LeBron has achieved more than Jordan has thru their age 29 seasons. It'll be cool to see if LeBron could do it.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #40 on:** June 24, 2013, 05:34:23 PM »

Quote from: snapple on June 24, 2013, 05:25:49 PM

Quote from: KevShmev on June 24, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
I am amused by the people who repeatedly say, "Nobody will ever surpass Jordan." What they are basically saying is, "I am so biased that no matter what any other player does ever, I will continue to stick my fingers in my ears while babbling 'Jordan is the best ever' incoherently like Lloyd Christmas."

I get super amused by it, too. LeBron has achieved more than Jordan has thru their age 29 seasons. It'll be cool to see if LeBron could do it.

People that say this almost always forget that LeBron also had a 3 year headstart.

Syzzle · « **Reply #41 on:** June 24, 2013, 05:50:38 PM »

Well thats Jordan's fault for wasting his time going to college.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #42 on:** June 24, 2013, 08:16:01 PM »

Yeah. Using age rather than actual seasons played, especially when there's a 3-year discrepancy, is a woefully inaccurate way to try to make an apples-to-apples comparison.

Azyiu · « **Reply #43 on:** June 24, 2013, 10:18:41 PM »

Brian Shaw has been hired as the new Denver Nuggets' head coach! Good for him and he has definitely earned it. Good luck.

Syzzle · « **Reply #44 on:** June 24, 2013, 11:48:00 PM »

About time and lol at all the teams that fucked up by not hiring him they're going to regret it.

Syzzle · « **Reply #45 on:** June 25, 2013, 01:48:07 AM »

https://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/story/Dwight-Howard-wants-to-play-for-Spurs?blockID=911705

Duncan+Howard yeah nothing would get through that I would hope the Spurs are smart enough to get rid of the washed up Ginobili and make a run at Howard.

Nekov · « **Reply #46 on:** June 25, 2013, 04:55:11 AM »

Yeah right. Howard is too high profile for the Spurs team plus I doubt they are willing to pay what Howard wants. They could put that money for better use.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #47 on:** June 25, 2013, 08:18:59 AM »

I'm happy to see Brian Shaw finally get a head coaching job! I wish him nothing but success and hope he gets it with the Nuggets so he can internally say "suck it Jim Buss!"

Azyiu · « **Reply #48 on:** June 25, 2013, 09:42:28 AM »

Quote from: Dimitrius on June 25, 2013, 08:18:59 AM

I'm happy to see Brian Shaw finally get a head coaching job! I wish him nothing but success and hope he gets it with the Nuggets so he can internally say "suck it Jim Buss!"

I actually wouldn't mind if Shaw verbally say it.

snapple · « **Reply #49 on:** June 25, 2013, 11:24:57 AM »

Quote from: black_floyd on June 24, 2013, 08:16:01 PM

Yeah. Using age rather than actual seasons played, especially when there's a 3-year discrepancy, is a woefully inaccurate way to try to make an apples-to-apples comparison.

Yeah, it isn't LeBron's fault he was able to go straight into the NBA from highschool. And he played for a very shitty team for SEVEN years, i think it's fair. Jordan had a huge case of guys behind him in CHI.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #50 on:** June 25, 2013, 02:01:12 PM »

KevShmev · « **Reply #51 on:** June 25, 2013, 02:24:04 PM »

Well, no one would ever accuse Miami of being a great sports town.

Aefenwelg · « **Reply #52 on:** June 25, 2013, 04:21:41 PM »

Quote from: Marc Stein's Twitter

ESPN source says provision DOES include three-team (and more) trades. NO trade exchanging Celtics & Clippers allowed until after next season

So it looks like KG to LAC is definitely off the table for good.

eric42434224 · « **Reply #53 on:** June 25, 2013, 04:44:11 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on June 25, 2013, 02:24:04 PM

Well, no one would ever accuse Miami of being a great sports town.

I guess facts dont matter.
400k at Miami celebration...double that of Baltimore.

Syzzle · « **Reply #54 on:** June 25, 2013, 04:58:03 PM »

Shhhhh you're ruining the illusion that Miami has bad fans.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #55 on:** June 25, 2013, 05:02:31 PM »

More people were at a parade in Miami in June than were at a parade in Baltimore in February? You don't say

I'm pretty sure that more "fans" were at the latter.

Yeah, I jumped the gun with that pic and got owned

snapple · « **Reply #56 on:** June 25, 2013, 05:03:44 PM »

Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on June 25, 2013, 05:02:31 PM

Yeah, I jumped the gun with that pic and got owned

I know that feeling all too well.

antigoon · « **Reply #57 on:** June 25, 2013, 05:30:42 PM »

KevShmev · « **Reply #58 on:** June 25, 2013, 11:47:07 PM »

I wonder how many of those 400K, if asked on the spot with no warning, could name three of the Heat's starting five the year before LeBron and Bosh came to town.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #59 on:** June 25, 2013, 11:58:28 PM »

Doesn't matter one iota. They're buying tickets, merchandise, etc., which helps the Heat have the capital to remain a top echelon contender. If they seriously didn't care, I doubt they'd waste their money. This bandwagon movement to bash Heat fans is even worse than their fair-weatheredness.

KevShmev · « **Reply #60 on:** June 26, 2013, 07:58:34 AM »

Well, they brought it on themselves with a bunch of them bailed on their team at the end of Game 6, missing what was a historic comeback. Sure, you can say it was only a few handfuls, but again, Miami is not exactly known for being a great sports town. Miami is never mentioned in discussions about best sports fans, for any individual sport or overall.

Jaq · « **Reply #61 on:** June 26, 2013, 08:10:27 AM »

About the LeBron/Jordan thing:

I never thought I'd agree with Stephen A. Smith on anything-guy's a tool-but he raised this point in the discussion. Jordan went 6 for 6 in the finals. Never went to a game 7. Was Finals MVP 6 for 6. Until James does something on that order, sorry, he's not better than Jordan. Hell, he's got work to go before I think he's better than Magic Johnson or Larry Bird. Hell, he's still got work to catch up to Tim Duncan in my mind.

/flame shield on.

KevShmev · « **Reply #62 on:** June 26, 2013, 08:16:19 AM »

While I agree that he still has work to do to catch any of those guys, Jaq, the "Jordan was 6 for 6 in the Finals" argument is not a strong one, IMO, and here is why: let's say LeBron wins four more titles and ends up 6-2 in the Finals. Are you telling me that his legacy would be better by having not gotten those two losing teams to the Finals? In other words, he would look better by having lost earlier in the playoffs? I don't get that at all. Especially when you consider that that 2007 Cavs team had no right being in the Finals, and were only there cause LeBron dragged them there. And he gets penalized for that? No way, I say.

Syzzle · « **Reply #63 on:** June 26, 2013, 08:43:52 AM »

The Chicago Bulls are 6 for 6 in the Finals not MJ. Why does everyone always say it like it was all MJ and he didn't have a great team surrounding him?

KevShmev · « **Reply #64 on:** June 26, 2013, 09:38:24 AM »

Great team? I don't know if I'd go that far. Aside from Jordan, they only had one Hall of Famer for the first three-peat (Pippen), and two for the second (Pippen and Rodman), so it's not like that was a stacked team. Hell, they were bounced in the 2nd round the year they didn't have Jordan (1994), so let's have some perspective here.

snapple · « **Reply #65 on:** June 26, 2013, 11:16:48 AM »

Pippen and Rodman were the perfect supporting cast for Jordan.

Nekov · « **Reply #66 on:** June 26, 2013, 11:49:23 AM »

And also take into account that during the last couple of games against Utah for the last championship Pippen had a back injury and barely played. Jordan took care of the team and won that last game all by himself.

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #67 on:** June 26, 2013, 01:41:31 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on June 26, 2013, 09:38:24 AM

Great team? I don't know if I'd go that far. Aside from Jordan, they only had one Hall of Famer for the first three-peat (Pippen), and two for the second (Pippen and Rodman), so it's not like that was a stacked team. Hell, they were bounced in the 2nd round the year they didn't have Jordan (1994), so let's have some perspective here.

3 Hall of Famers in the starting five? That's pretty good.

Jordan's and James' ending numbers will be apples to oranges. Far too many variables, which is precisely why you don't hear Russell vs. Jordan arguments.

Nekov · « **Reply #68 on:** June 26, 2013, 01:47:43 PM »

Quote

Pre draft trade rumors: Cleveland offers 19th pick for Thomas Robinson.

Trail Blazers were informed by Lamarcus Aldridge wants a trade to the Bulls.

Bulls offers Houston 20th pick for Thomas Robinson.

Celtics are looking for ways to trade Paul Pierce to free up cap space for them to pursue Josh Smith.

KevShmev · « **Reply #69 on:** June 26, 2013, 01:51:45 PM »

Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on June 26, 2013, 01:41:31 PM

Jordan's and James' ending numbers will be apples to oranges. Far too many variables, which is precisely why you don't hear Russell vs. Jordan arguments.

Right. That is why I laugh when anyone thinks rings are all that matter when discussing which player is better. Jordan is better than anyone because he has 6 rings, but, oh yeah, we will ignore the fact that Russell has 11.

I like the idea of discussing "alpha rings," meaning a ring you got when you were the best player on your team without question. In that case, LeBron and Bryant are now tied at 2. Imagine if LeBron had played his first 7-8 seasons with an in-his-prime Shaq. My God.

That is why it is never as simply as counting rings.

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