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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #105 on: January 16, 2014, 04:52:51 PM »
Not many bands can cut just two songs from their set to make up for an hour and a half late start.  ;D

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« Reply #106 on: January 16, 2014, 04:53:32 PM »
An equipment truck broke down on the way to the venue and didn't arrive until late in the day.

Because of the hard curfew, Scarred and Illumination Theory were not played.

The police didn't stop the show.

...and that's the bottom line.

Did they go ahead with the show without said equipment then? Because if it ended up arriving anyway then the technical issues must be a separate thing. Maybe it was just one of those nights.

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« Reply #107 on: January 16, 2014, 04:54:30 PM »
The hardest part was to wait in the cold weather for the doors to open...I almost peed my pants!!!

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #108 on: January 16, 2014, 04:55:06 PM »
It's a shame to hear about the difficulties they had with this show. I'm glad it wasn't on the first show, at least.
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« Reply #109 on: January 16, 2014, 04:56:23 PM »
When they skipped Scarred I thought "hey, different setlist!!!". Little did I know...

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« Reply #110 on: January 16, 2014, 04:58:48 PM »

Did they go ahead with the show without said equipment then? Because if it ended up arriving anyway then the technical issues must be a separate thing. Maybe it was just one of those nights.

They have played without all the montage of the tour. It was basically the five of them playing with the big screen only showing live images of them.

Very naked show, but it was great. Only thing really really missing are IT.

But probably the guys were pissed. I have seen a lot of DT concerts and never seem them making so many and notorious mistakes while playing.

But hey, that happens to everybody once in a while, itīs the life on the road.

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« Reply #111 on: January 16, 2014, 05:00:51 PM »
I for one am glad I'll have two more chances of catching them on a good night!

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« Reply #112 on: January 16, 2014, 05:01:30 PM »
The hardest part was to wait in the cold weather for the doors to open...I almost peed my pants!!!

I had a meet and greet, so I entered a bit earlier (also delayed, but earlier than regular tickets), but I was thinking of you guys on the outside. It was frezing out there.

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« Reply #113 on: January 16, 2014, 05:04:44 PM »
So how wss the meet & greet? I'll meet them tomorrow!!

It was sad to see people screaming "otra! otra!otra!" ("one more") and not getting it.

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #114 on: January 16, 2014, 05:06:22 PM »
That's a real bummer to hear! It's too bad you guys didn't get to experience  Illumination Theory.

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« Reply #115 on: January 16, 2014, 05:10:26 PM »
So how wss the meet & greet? I'll meet them tomorrow!!

Fast.  You take your photo with them then they sign you the poster they give you and another item and thatīs it. You canīt talk to them to much just a couple of things.

Another thing interesting of the concert is that JP was for the first time playing his new MM Majesty model. The 7 strings was black and the 6 string one was in mystic blue. He have played the whole concert with these two guitars, except Breaking All Illusions that he played with the same guitar as Luna Park.

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #116 on: January 16, 2014, 05:11:16 PM »
Sorry double post.

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« Reply #117 on: January 16, 2014, 05:12:10 PM »
Thomas...is there any other song from the current tou that you created visuals for?

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« Reply #118 on: January 16, 2014, 05:14:37 PM »
I did a meet & greet in Perth in 2009 and it was exactly the same...

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #119 on: January 16, 2014, 05:17:55 PM »
Thomas...is there any other song from the current tou that you created visuals for?

Hey there Rodrigo,

I created 3 videos for their show. Illumination Theory, The Shattered Fortress and Lifting Shadows Of A Dream :)

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« Reply #120 on: January 16, 2014, 05:27:38 PM »
Cool!!! Illumination is THE song to be heard on this tour.

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« Reply #121 on: January 16, 2014, 05:29:00 PM »
Cool!!! Illumination is THE song to be heard on this tour.

Yeah cool!!!

 :-[ :-[


PD: I would bet they play it in Madrid on the next tour.

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« Reply #122 on: January 16, 2014, 05:31:30 PM »
Technical issues aside, The Mirror/Lie and The Shattered Fortress were the high points of the night for me. Space-Dye Vest was good too, but I never cared much for it.

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #123 on: January 16, 2014, 05:33:48 PM »
I was there at the concert. They didnt play Scarred. Awful, men, i waited and waited to see that song live, and i didnt get anything. They should cut OBOA instead of two awesome pieces of art such as IT and Scarred. And the technical issues... Only cameras on the screen. Not bad, just a little disappointing. But i prefer cameras, because i'm 15 and it was difficult to me seeing them (i'm not very tall...).

The hardest part was to wait in the cold weather for the doors to open...I almost peed my pants!!!
A really cold night. Nice that there was a kebab restaurant near.




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« Reply #124 on: January 16, 2014, 05:57:53 PM »
On a more positive note, tonight marked the 04th continent where I've seen DT live! Only Africa is missung now - have they ever played there?

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« Reply #125 on: January 16, 2014, 05:58:00 PM »
Another thing interesting of the concert is that JP was for the first time playing his new MM Majesty model. The 7 strings was black and the 6 string one was in mystic blue. He have played the whole concert with these two guitars, except Breaking All Illusions that he played with the same guitar as Luna Park.

I'm hoping someone posts some decent photos or video of JP. I'm looking forward to seeing what this looks like on stage! So far from the one photo I've seen of him playing it, it looks like an amazing guitar.

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #126 on: January 16, 2014, 06:02:05 PM »
Looks like the Majesty guitar was too much for Madrid to take :P

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« Reply #127 on: January 16, 2014, 06:03:46 PM »
Looks like the Majesty guitar was too much for Madrid to take :P

I hope there was at least one survivor with some pics or vid.  :lol

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #128 on: January 16, 2014, 06:26:05 PM »
The hardest part was to wait in the cold weather for the doors to open...I almost peed my pants!!!

... what was the weather like?  Google says it's 4 degrees C in Spain right now.

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« Reply #129 on: January 16, 2014, 07:26:02 PM »
Hi everyone.

Just came back from the show. I don't know if a truck broke down, but this morning both trucks arrived at 2 pm. At the same time. Then, the Meet & Greet took place at 7 pm. but by that time, the doors should have been opened for general access. We've accessed the venue hall with a delay of 1 hour, and we've been waiting to enter de venue another 30 minutes. It seems that it's been some technical issues with the video, as we haven't seen the intro animation, nor the one before The Mirror. The screen have just showed live images of the band. Also, Mangini seemed to have some issues with his in-ear monitor, and the icing on the cake: the show ended 45 earlier than expected.

If you think that the police has nothing to do with this, you don't even know how this region, Madrid, works. When I was picking my ticket, two officers were talking to the responsible of the venue. "The show must end at 11:30 pm", they were saying. During the evening, many police cars have arrived to the venue, I've counted 7 or 8 in total. No, they weren't there to secure the access to the venue, nor the exit, they were there to guarantee the closing of the venue at the time decided by the local government.

Well, I know, you may not believe me. Me and some friends have waited for the band at the end of the show, but they haven't come out in 3 hours. But hey, one very important person has indeed come out: Frank Solomon. We've had a little chat with him on this matter and he's been very clear: the video/technical issues have been a problem of the local staff, and the police did order to close the venue at exactly that point. So the band had no choice but to eliminate IT and Scarred from the setlist. Frank has been extremely kind and he has promissed that they'll do something to make it up for us. Also, we've asked him about the band members; it seems they were really pissed off.
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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #130 on: January 16, 2014, 07:41:35 PM »
Thanks to Nest777 for the facts!
I know the band would be upset about this, as it's entirely out of their control, but I hope everyone still enjoyed what they got, which was a lot.
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« Reply #131 on: January 16, 2014, 07:50:50 PM »
Yup, the show itself was great! But this things kind of sour the experience, you know? At the end of the show Mangini was totally blushed because of this events and thanking everyone, and the other members were visibly affected by this "unexpected" ending.

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #132 on: January 16, 2014, 08:04:51 PM »
Thanks to Nest777 for the facts!
I know the band would be upset about this, as it's entirely out of their control, but I hope everyone still enjoyed what they got, which was a lot.

Yeah, I spoke to JP after the show, they were all disappointed that the show went down like it did. They really want the fans to have a great time and enjoy the entire presentation, which due to the video problems they weren't able to, not to mention having to cut out Scarred and IT.
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« Reply #133 on: January 16, 2014, 08:19:22 PM »
Thanks to Nest777 for the facts!
I know the band would be upset about this, as it's entirely out of their control, but I hope everyone still enjoyed what they got, which was a lot.

Yeah, I spoke to JP after the show, they were all disappointed that the show went down like it did. They really want the fans to have a great time and enjoy the entire presentation, which due to the video problems they weren't able to, not to mention having to cut out Scarred and IT.

I know this may sound a little shelfish, and I know they were for sure very tired, but it'd have been recomforting to see them after the show. There were just a few fans (not more than 10) waiting in the cold night, and they didn't showed up to say hi or something. The Scarred/IT thing has been terrible, but that little action would have cheered all of us a little  :-[ Just letting you know this because I think they should know how we fans feel about this issues. Other than that, a breathtaking show; best DT show I've seen in my life.

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #134 on: January 16, 2014, 08:29:56 PM »

If you think that the police has nothing to do with this, you don't even know how this region, Madrid, works.

I have been living here for 30 years, I think I know how it works.

Police has nothing to do with it. When you book a venue for an event like a concert like this, you make a contract in which you agree on a lot of things, one of them the hour of closing. If the band starts the show 1:30 late and then has to shorten their show to finish on time you canīt blame the local authorities for it. They are doing their job.


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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #135 on: January 16, 2014, 09:54:36 PM »
Apparently even though I try to keep up with all DT news i must have missed something. Since when do we know they're playing SDV in this tour? Cause I just found out and expected to see the forum having been shattered to pieces with this piece of news. I mean, we've been waiting for this since.....Awake came out :eek

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #136 on: January 16, 2014, 10:06:59 PM »
Too bad you guys didn't get to hear the full setlist or see the videos :sad: Hopefully the rest of the shows won't be as problematic. To be honest I wouldn't mind that much if IT wasn't played at my show, but the lack of Scarred would be a massive disappointment.
Apparently even though I try to keep up with all DT news i must have missed something. Since when do we know they're playing SDV in this tour? Cause I just found out and expected to see the forum having been shattered to pieces with this piece of news. I mean, we've been waiting for this since.....Awake came out :eek
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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #137 on: January 16, 2014, 10:08:10 PM »
I know this may sound a little shelfish, and I know they were for sure very tired, but it'd have been recomforting to see them after the show. There were just a few fans (not more than 10) waiting in the cold night, and they didn't showed up to say hi or something.
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« Reply #138 on: January 16, 2014, 10:14:10 PM »
Cool!!! Illumination is THE song to be heard on this tour.

If so....after just now watching IT from the first show...  I'm not going to be a happy camper.  We had no clue what they would do for the orch. section prior to the start of the tour.  What I saw from the first show?  4 mins of vid and no actual band performance???  No....  this will be a major disappointment for me if it's presented in this state when I see them.

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Re: 2014-01-16 - Palacio Vistalegre - Madrid, ESP
« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2014, 10:56:21 PM »
I am so happy they're playing sdv.
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