Final Fantasy Discussion Thread

[Ultimetalhead]

Oh god Blitzball. That and the one Seymour fight (You know the one) were the only things in that game that actually seriously pissed me off.

[yorost]

Actually, I'm not sure, which Seymour fight?  He was one a bright spot in the game, his fights were usually difficult but doable on first go at it.

[AcidLameLTE]

The first one that springs to mind is the one on Mt. Gagazet

[j]

That's the one I assumed he was talking about as well; it was pretty tough.  The only other boss fights I didn't breeze through were Yunalesca and the final boss.  And of those, the latter wasn't bad at all, it just took me several turns to figure out what to do.

-J

[yorost]

I remember the fight, but I don't remember it being anything unusual.  What made it so bad?

[Ultimetalhead]

It was just really difficult. I ended up doing a lot of training, getting all my overdrives up. Then, I cast Bio on him and kept sending Aeons out (I got all their overdrives up too), and I still only beat him by the skin of my teeth.

[yorost]

I don't think I used any aeons on this one.  This is the one where he cast reflect on himself, you dispelled it and then he cast flare on himself, genius that he is.  Otherwise I just killed his sidekick over and over so that it never really had a turn.  I remember zombie status and healing to kill them, but I think I had someone with zombie ward active since I don't remember it ever killing everyone.

[Ultimetalhead]

I don't think I used any aeons on this one.  This is the one where he cast reflect on himself, you dispelled it and then he cast flare on himself, genius that he is.  Otherwise I just killed his sidekick over and over so that it never really had a turn.  I remember zombie status and healing to kill them, but I think I had someone with zombie ward active since I don't remember it ever killing everyone.

I don't think we're thinking of the same one.

[Genowyn]

Ugh, I did that fight on Gagazet so many times for a while I had the conversation that preceded it memorized. I still have this bit:

"They threw themselves at me...to bar my path. One...after the other...*girlish giggle*"

But seriously, screw that boss.

[AcidLameLTE]

Just get Yojimbo before you go up there if you find it difficult.

[Ultimetalhead]

Just get Yojimbo before you go up there if you find it difficult.

Not really into side-quests. My other method worked fine, but it was just a pain in the ass the first few times.

And, while we're talking about cutscenes, the one before Yunalesca is SO FUCKING LONG, and before one of the hardest bosses at that. I watched it at least 10 times. The one before the final boss was annoying too. I still have that one memorized.

[glaurung]

That fight really wasn't that hard. Just make sure you have a bunch of holy waters.

Is anyone interested in doing the FF VII play through talked about on the last page?

[ehra]

I'm still up for giving it a try whenever.

[Ultimetalhead]

We need more people, and also suggestions as to where the splits should be.

[Genowyn]

I'd be in if my copy of VII worked >.>

[Gwii]

Just get Yojimbo before you go up there if you find it difficult.

ahh nostalgia


Yojimbo was badass

But not as much as this one:

[ariich]

Yeah, but Yojimbo has the best name ever.

[Genowyn]

The japanese could have given him some totally ludicrous name like Bakaneko and not changed it and people would probably start nicknaming themselves Bakaneko and have no idea what they had done.

[yorost]

I don't think I used any aeons on this one.  This is the one where he cast reflect on himself, you dispelled it and then he cast flare on himself, genius that he is.  Otherwise I just killed his sidekick over and over so that it never really had a turn.  I remember zombie status and healing to kill them, but I think I had someone with zombie ward active since I don't remember it ever killing everyone.

I don't think we're thinking of the same one.

I looked it up, that was the fight at Mt. Gagazet, is that the one you're talking about?

[Ultimetalhead]

I don't think I used any aeons on this one.  This is the one where he cast reflect on himself, you dispelled it and then he cast flare on himself, genius that he is.  Otherwise I just killed his sidekick over and over so that it never really had a turn.  I remember zombie status and healing to kill them, but I think I had someone with zombie ward active since I don't remember it ever killing everyone.

I don't think we're thinking of the same one.

I looked it up, that was the fight at Mt. Gagazet, is that the one you're talking about?

Yeah, but I don't remember him doing casting reflect on himself.

[yorost]

I don't think I used any aeons on this one.  This is the one where he cast reflect on himself, you dispelled it and then he cast flare on himself, genius that he is.  Otherwise I just killed his sidekick over and over so that it never really had a turn.  I remember zombie status and healing to kill them, but I think I had someone with zombie ward active since I don't remember it ever killing everyone.

I don't think we're thinking of the same one.

I looked it up, that was the fight at Mt. Gagazet, is that the one you're talking about?

Yeah, but I don't remember him doing casting reflect on himself.

Maybe he just didn't do it to you, he used it to use flare on the heroes by casting it against his own reflect.  That way if the player has reflect up it can't stop it, as I'm sure you know if you've played various Final Fantasy games.  Unfortunately he was apparently too stupid to know when you dispel his reflect, which made for a hilarious moment as he flared himself.

[Ultimetalhead]

No, I totally know what you mean, I just don't recall it being the fight on Gagazet. I've only played through it once though, so you're probably right.

[Genowyn]

I don't remember him doing that on Gagazet either, but I do recall him doing it...maybe it's just his reaction to you casting reflect? A lot of bosses do that.

[yorost]

Maybe I'm wrong, I'm certain it was on this boss, though, especially since I just read a faq that says this version of Seymour uses reflect to cast flare off himself.

Boss 24

Myself, he wasn't responding to my reflect, I think, since I rarely use it myself.  Never have liked using the reflect tactic unless I was desperate.

[Genowyn]

I guess I just didn't notice Flare sandwiched between all of his other annoying as hell attacks. I still think he was one of the hardest bosses in the game...not as hard as Yunalesca, but definitely harder than just about everything else.

[AcidLameLTE]

Yu Yevon was the one I really struggled with.

[Genowyn]

Yu Yevon was the one I really struggled with.

True, I would argue he may have been the hardest final boss ever, that guy was ridiculous.

[Ultimetalhead]

Yu Yevon was simple. You didn't even have to attack him. He would just Ultima himself to death while you kept getting rescued by the auto-life. How is a boss where you can't die considered hard?

[Dimitrius]

Here's something you guys might like.

https://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1061278p1.html

[Arcaeus]

I'd be up to the FFVII playthrough, but problem is I lost disc one for the game. I think I'll buy it on the PS3 online store and play it on that.

Are there any differences on the PS3/PSP downloadable version?

[Ultimetalhead]

I'd be up to the FFVII playthrough, but problem is I lost disc one for the game. I think I'll buy it on the PS3 online store and play it on that.

Are there any differences on the PS3/PSP downloadable version?

None whatsoever. The only difference is you can turn on graphical smoothing and make it look prettier. And, because it's reading from the hard drive, it runs a little faster/smoother as well.

[Arcaeus]

Good

I'm really wanting a FFVII remake (for fuck sake's, they did I-VI for the GBA, then they did I & II again on the PSP, and III-IV on the DS) but I'm afraid they'd have Genesis, Cissnei and that one goddess of the Lifestream chick pop up everywhere I don't mind the characters, but they just don't feel like they'd belong.

[Ultimetalhead]

Salivate over this and then curse Sqeenix for it only being a tech demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8cYrGG220

[yorost]

Good

I'm really wanting a FFVII remake (for fuck sake's, they did I-VI for the GBA, then they did I & II again on the PSP, and III-IV on the DS) but I'm afraid they'd have Genesis, Cissnei and that one goddess of the Lifestream chick pop up everywhere I don't mind the characters, but they just don't feel like they'd belong.

Well, the GBA actually got I, II, IV-VI.

VII getting a remake hasn't made as much sense since it was originally intended for the PS1 and was a big step up from VI in terms of how the game was presented.  We're still two generations out of FFVII, this would be the first generation that a remake would even seem like a possibility, so the wait is only starting around now, anyways.

I highly doubt Genesis would show up in FFVII, aside from possible mentions.  I haven't finished Crisis Core, but from the ending of Dirge of Cerberus I'm pretty sure during the time of FFVII he's rather occupied.  You also have to remember that they don't go too far away from the original source for these remakes, too.  Based on their past remakes it would probably be graphical and presentation upgrades, with the game largely unchanged except for maybe a bonus area.

[Arcaeus]

That is true, but for I-VI there wasn't really anything more to add. Now FFVII has a whole compilation of prequels and sequels, with new characters revealed to have been the cause of many events from the original game (Genesis, Hollander, Lazard, Angaelus, Cissnei, etc., the list goes on; even Zack was an incredibly minor character in the original game) and while I would prefer them to keep things largely unchanged I couldn't imagine them not finishing up those characters' stories or, god forbid, mention DeepGround.

Since you still haven't finished Crisis Core, spoilers up ahead. The "Godess" from LOVELESS Genesis always goes on about is revealed to be a character named Minerva who, presumably, is the consciousness of the Lifestream, but most of her purpose and story is left unresolved. I would imagine, was there a FFVII remake, she'd be described in greater detail (perhaps along with Jenova, who always intrigued me), and I assume she has a connection to Aerith's Holy materia.