Derek Sherinian

[reneranucci]

OIALT is an awesome live album.
And when it comes to live playing, I think he totally owned Kevin.
He also owned Jordan Rudess on the "when dream and day re-unite" cd/dvd. 
What's cool with Derek is that he knew how to take a step back and leave some room to the guitar, unlike Jordan who's always trying to be the 2nd rythmn guitar player.

I regard all those statments as factually incorrect.

[Dublagent66]

OIALT is an awesome live album.
And when it comes to live playing, I think he totally owned Kevin.
He also owned Jordan Rudess on the "when dream and day re-unite" cd/dvd. 
What's cool with Derek is that he knew how to take a step back and leave some room to the guitar, unlike Jordan who's always trying to be the 2nd rythmn guitar player.

I regard all those statments as factually incorrect.

Agreed.

[BlobVanDam]

OIALT is an awesome live album.
And when it comes to live playing, I think he totally owned Kevin.
He also owned Jordan Rudess on the "when dream and day re-unite" cd/dvd. 
What's cool with Derek is that he knew how to take a step back and leave some room to the guitar, unlike Jordan who's always trying to be the 2nd rythmn guitar player.

I regard all those statments as factually incorrect.

Agreed.

Seconded.

[goo-goo]

we need more derek on this thread 

anyways, i was just listening to acos and trial of tears...awesome keyboard solos and tone!

[Lazy]

What do you think about the new supergroup, feat. Derek Sherinian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ffTcX6m1Q

[LCArenas]

He's good, but I think both KM and JR were better. Derek's keyboards are one of the reasons I love Trial of Tears and enjoy Lines in the Sand a lot. I also like his performance on the Japan '95 Bootleg and ACoS.... But I think JR fits better into DT.


BTW It's sad that Nightmare Cinema "disbanded" after he left. I think they'd be awesome if they decided to "regroup" even with Jordan in there.

[El Barto]

What do you think about the new supergroup, feat. Derek Sherinian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ffTcX6m1Q

Though a shell of his former self, hearing Glenn Hughes sing always makes me happy.  Pretty cool song, as well.  Not much of a part for DS, though.

As for the OT, I'd much rather listen to DS than Rudess.  I think JR has some of the finest chops on the face of the Earth.  The impromptu solo at Downey earned him God status in my book.  Sherinian plays with so much more heart, though.  The man just always seemed much more interested in jamming than demonstrating technical prowess.  Somebody mentioned him using the Hammand patch too much.  That's one of the things I really liked about him.  There's something organic about a good B3 sound; it just screams out to be played. 

[Orbert]

El Barto, I love you.

[ZKX-2099]

A Derek Sherinian thread with no mention of his work on Just Let Me Breathe... 

[dedSurroun]

I wish DT had kept him around longer. He may not outdo Rudess in technical wizardry, but DT doesn't need more technical wizardry. They need other things. Stuff that only Sherinian (and Moore - yep, I said it) can provide.

Oh well.

[hefdaddy42]

I would really have loved another album with Sherinian.

[nikatapi]

I think that if DT gave him more time to show what he is capable of, and given some independece from the record company, i'm sure that DT would make a great record.
What i like about DS, is that he plays with emotion, and gives some "breathing space" for the bass and the guitar, in contrast with JR who doubles the riffs most of the time...

[skydivingninja]

I would really have loved another album with Sherinian.

Same here.  I like plenty of Jordan's parts in modern DT (BF piano solo, for instance), but Sherinian just fit insanely well into 90s DT.  Now it seems Rudess is prominent, but doesn't always seem to fit, especially in metal songs. 

[rumborak]

Derek back in the day seemed to have an influence on DT MP and JP didn't know how to deal with. I think DS could have injected DT with that exact "heart" they're sometimes missing these days.
But, I also doubt MP would have been able to rein him in like he does these days with the members of DT.

rumborak

[antigoon]

He was awesome in DT, and although I love the majority of Rudess-era DT music, I would have loved to see more of him with the band.

[hefdaddy42]

I also doubt MP would have been able to rein him in like he does these days with the members of DT.

I agree.  That's why I would have loved to see another album with him.  It would have been interesting - a little creative tension works for lots of bands.

[TL]

I'm definitely a fan of DS. He's a talented player with a really enjoyable playing style, and he seems like a good guy.
Though I like JR, and definitely think he has done great things with DT, it would have been very interesting to have heard another album with DS.

What do you think about the new supergroup, feat. Derek Sherinian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ffTcX6m1Q

Pretty good stuff. Also, does the guitar part at 3:40 to about 4:12 or so remind anyone else of Learning To Live?

[Kyo]

The best keyboard player I've worked with so far. 

I liked him in DT, except he used the Hammond Organ patch way too much

I thought the same at the time. Funny in retrospect, because now his great taste (and
variety) when it comes to keyboard sounds is a big reason why he's one of my faves. 

[gabeh1018]

i personally dont have a favorite keyboard player in DT however his lead tone and his solos are still my favorite.. i personally dislike jordan's tone and his solos most of the time do absolutely nothing for me.. but that doesnt take away from what JR has brought this band because everything else he has brought to this band is amazing.. i cant rly say if DS would have really added any flare or personality to DTs music but regardless hes an amazing keyboard playerand i love FII and aCoS

[contest_sanity]

A Derek Sherinian thread with no mention of his work on Just Let Me Breathe... 

I was just listening to this song a couple of days ago and was thinking about how cool his parts are in it.

[tri.ad]

I agree. I love his lead during the chorus.

[KevShmev]

As for the OT, I'd much rather listen to DS than Rudess.  I think JR has some of the finest chops on the face of the Earth.  The impromptu solo at Downey earned him God status in my book.  Sherinian plays with so much more heart, though.  The man just always seemed much more interested in jamming than demonstrating technical prowess.  Somebody mentioned him using the Hammand patch too much.  That's one of the things I really liked about him.  There's something organic about a good B3 sound; it just screams out to be played. 

Hell yeah!  It's hard to beat a hammond organ. 

a little creative tension works for lots of bands.

QFT.

[Samsara]

I would really have loved another album with Sherinian.

Agreed. Honestly, I like DS and KM's playing better than JR. JR is a better technical keyboardist, but I just prefer the soul in DS's playing more, and on KM, I prefer his sense of atmosphere. JR is a wizard, but while a technical genius, he lacks qualities from DS and KM that I find more appealing than technicality.

[Perpetual Change]

For me it's Jordan>Derek>>>>>>>>>>>Kevin.

[Algo Fonix]

Derek is by far my favorite DT keyboardist.  As mentioned before, his playing has a lot of soul.  It's a shame they didn't have him on for another album.  That'd have been pretty interesting to hear.

I really like JR too, but I'm liking him less and less with each album.

[Mladen]

For me it's Jordan>Derek>>>>>>>>>>>Kevin.

Same.

[Octavaripolis]

DS really shows off his chops, and not only his heart and soul in ACOS, imo.

[wasteland]

DS really shows off his chops, and not only his heart and soul in ACOS, imo.

While this is true beyound any reasonable doubt, I think his actual creative input in the song was very limited. You can tell this just comparing the keyboard parts with FII's, the difference is macroscopic.

[Western Ninja]

DS really shows off his chops, and not only his heart and soul in ACOS, imo.

How deep into the forum did you delve just to post this?

[Cedar redaC]

I dig his style. He was the Eddie Van Halen to Jordan Rudess's Steve Vai.

[Sycsa]

As for the OT, I'd much rather listen to DS than Rudess.  I think JR has some of the finest chops on the face of the Earth.  The impromptu solo at Downey earned him God status in my book.  Sherinian plays with so much more heart, though.  The man just always seemed much more interested in jamming than demonstrating technical prowess.  Somebody mentioned him using the Hammand patch too much.  That's one of the things I really liked about him.  There's something organic about a good B3 sound; it just screams out to be played. 

Hell yeah!  It's hard to beat a hammond organ. 

Agreed; the Hammond organ is my favorite instrument and it's the very best thing Derek has got going for him(it was so good to see the big, burly beast on PSMS). That said, I hated his distorted lead sound so much that I really don't mind he didn't stick around for more.

[Cedar redaC]

I'm thinking of picking up Oceana, what do you guys think about it?

[wasteland]

I'm thinking of picking up Oceana, what do you guys think about it?

I second this question. I should definitely get into his solo works.

[FreezingPoint]

I'm thinking of picking up Oceana, what do you guys think about it?

I second this question. I should definitely get into his solo works.

I love it. I still need to give it a couple more listens. It is very fusion influenced, which for me, was a nice surprise but could be a letdown to someone looking for a heavier album. (Not to say that it does not have its harder songs) Some great playing by Derek and by all the guest players on the album. An enjoyable listen.

[Orbert]

I have a bunch of his solo stuff, and I like all of it.  Planet X, Inertia, Black Utopia, Mythology, Quantum, Molecular Heinosity, and Oceana.  They all rock.  I'm trying to remember which one... I think it's Inertia or one of the other early ones... where most tracks fade out and it gets to be annoying after a while.  The playing itself is great, and all of them.  I just have a thing for songs that actually end, especially instrumentals.  One or two songs per album can fade, maybe, if that's appropriate to the groove, but I don't like feeling like they didn't know how to end the song so they copped out.