Recording Question

[Stadler]

So... when a musician talks about "punching in", I know generally what they mean.  But how does it ACTUALLY happen?

So assume it's a guitar part, and the original is on Track 1.  Does the engineer actually hit record on Track 1, or does the player put the "new" part on another track?  Or could it be both (the first sounds harder).   How much does the player actually play?  Or does that depend on what the punch in is? 

Then, assuming you have it on another track - say, Track 2 - does it get blended in the mix?  Do they fade out Track 1 and fade in Track 2? 

Does anyone have a good example of a (bad) punch in where you can clearly hear what's the what?

[Adami]

Generally it’d be your first example.

Your track is playing. You come in at a predetermined part and they record them on the same track. Very easy.

[Stadler]

Generally it’d be your first example.

Your track is playing. You come in at a predetermined part and they record them on the same track. Very easy.

Thank you for the quick response. 

So what happens to the bum notes?  They are recorded over?

Logistically, then, is the track that's being recorded over actually playing, or does the engineer synch up a "play" track to the "record" track (does that make sense?)?

[Adami]

Generally it’d be your first example.

Your track is playing. You come in at a predetermined part and they record them on the same track. Very easy.

Thank you for the quick response. 

So what happens to the bum notes?  They are recorded over?

Logistically, then, is the track that's being recorded over actually playing, or does the engineer synch up a "play" track to the "record" track (does that make sense?)?

I can only speak to how I use it on protools. Not sure if it is different on other DAWS.

What happens to the section you're redoing? Generally you're recording over it. They CAN move it to a playlist if they want to keep it though, on the same track.

So yes, the track will be playing and then right before or after you come in, they would just hit record, which would be in punch-record mode.

[romdrums]

Hey Stadler, what DAW are you using?

[Stadler]

Hey Stadler, what DAW are you using?

The one that came with the interface, Ableton.

[Skeever]

Hey Stadler, what DAW are you using?

The one that came with the interface, Ableton.

Ableton has a pretty good feature for punch ins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QkigMTMcBE

I used it for like a year or longer without knowing what those dang "squiggly lines" next to the looper meant.

[romdrums]

Hey Stadler, what DAW are you using?

The one that came with the interface, Ableton.

If there's an option to set up some sort of pre-roll on the punch in, that will give you the chance to hear a couple of bars before the punch in point.  Also, punch-ins in the DAW world are typically non-destructive, which means the original audio will not be lost to the aether. 

[Stadler]

Hey Stadler, what DAW are you using?

The one that came with the interface, Ableton.

If there's an option to set up some sort of pre-roll on the punch in, that will give you the chance to hear a couple of bars before the punch in point.  Also, punch-ins in the DAW world are typically non-destructive, which means the original audio will not be lost to the aether.

Okay, good.  That's good to know. I'll check it out this weekend, if I can. 

Thank you!!!