Jeff Hanneman(Slayer) dies

[Ruba]

I have never really liked Slayer, but R.I.P. Good guitarist nevertheless.

[Zydar]

RIP Jeff

[Rattlehead]

Well this sucks... R.I.P. Jeff  I was fortunate enough to see him last summer in NJ, can't believe he's gone now  Had to put on some Slayer in honor of Jeff, forgot how awesome their earlier stuff is.

[?]

I don't even listen to Slayer at all but... wow. That's terrible. R.I.P.

[wolfking]

Jeff was easily the better guitar player of the two, and by far my fav member.  Slayer for me was always about Jeff.  IMO, the band has pretty much died with Jeff.  RIP dude.

[Mladen]

I don't even listen to Slayer much but... wow. That's terrible. R.I.P.

[wkiml]

RIP Jeff .  Jeffwas so under rated as a guitar player and song writer . Kerry enjoyed the spotlight and became the "spokesperson" for the band but Jeff in my mind was the Blood and Guts

Look at some of these gems he wrote
Antichrist
Die by the Sword
Angel of Death
Behind the Crooked Cross
War Ensemble

Just to name a few.

 I had the priviledge of seeing Slayer 20+ times and they never disappointed live.

I understand...Thrash isn't everyone's cup of tea, but as a genre I grew up with from the early stages its still deeply inbedded in my musical tastes.

regardless of what caused the liver failure he was taken from us way to soon,

 

[philmcson]

I can definitely see other factors having played into it, such as medication relating to the spider bite. I was basing my comment on an article that quoted a friend of his saying that Hanneman was on a steady liquid diet of Heineken and vodka. If you do that long enough, 49 isn't really that young to die of cirrhosis.

This.

While I'm today really sad because of Jeff's death, I'm also a bit...... well, angry. It was a well-known fact that Jeff liked booze a little too much and his other health problems may have been a final contribution to fatal cirrhosis.

I'd really love if music artists would finally learn from examples like John Bonham, Rev Sullivan, Paul Gray, Jeff Hanneman....... and stop ruining their health with irresponsible, childish drinking/drugging habits. I'm fed up with great musicians passing away in unnecessarily young ages..... 

[fadetoblackdude7]

Only saw Slayer once and thank god it was with all 4 original members, since different guys have been swapped in and out recently. They performed my favorite album (Seasons in the Abyss) in its entirety.

RIP Jeff.

[lateralus88]

Only saw Slayer once and thank god it was with all 4 original members, since different guys have been swapped in and out recently. They performed my favorite album (Seasons in the Abyss) in its entirety.

RIP Jeff.

American Carnage was one of the best tours ever.

[obscure]

I woke up to this shocking news this morning.... so so sad....   

[jammindude]

I know Gary Holt filled in for Jeff upon occasion...but I really hope Slayer just hangs it up.    Dave is gone again, Jeff is dead, Tom's been talking retirement for the past couple of tours....  It's time.   I think it's better to go out while you're still ahead. 

[lateralus88]

I hate to say it, but I think I'm with you jammindude. Slayer has and always will be a big part of my life as a metalhead, but a horse with a broken leg isn't going to be getting better with a quick recovery. Might as well put the band out of it's misery before it becomes painful.

[wolfking]

Slayer is done.

[El Barto]

Well, considering that nobody really seems to think much of Kerry King anymore, that probably would be best.

[rumborak]

While I'm today really sad because of Jeff's death, I'm also a bit...... well, angry. It was a well-known fact that Jeff liked booze a little too much and his other health problems may have been a final contribution to fatal cirrhosis.

I'd really love if music artists would finally learn from examples like John Bonham, Rev Sullivan, Paul Gray, Jeff Hanneman....... and stop ruining their health with irresponsible, childish drinking/drugging habits. I'm fed up with great musicians passing away in unnecessarily young ages..... 

I think the problem is that it's expected of them. Rock and Metal live off the aura of their glory days, and those were the sex, drugs and rock'n roll days. Combine that with a) that a lot of metal bands enter the scene with that attitude, b) they aren't the most cerebral type and c) a lot of classic albums were written under drug influence, and that's how you end up with those situations.

[El Barto]

While I'm today really sad because of Jeff's death, I'm also a bit...... well, angry. It was a well-known fact that Jeff liked booze a little too much and his other health problems may have been a final contribution to fatal cirrhosis.

I'd really love if music artists would finally learn from examples like John Bonham, Rev Sullivan, Paul Gray, Jeff Hanneman....... and stop ruining their health with irresponsible, childish drinking/drugging habits. I'm fed up with great musicians passing away in unnecessarily young ages..... 

I think the problem is that it's expected of them. Rock and Metal live off the aura of their glory days, and those were the sex, drugs and rock'n roll days. Combine that with a) that a lot of metal bands enter the scene with that attitude, b) they aren't the most cerebral type and c) a lot of classic albums were written under drug influence, and that's how you end up with those situations.

It's interesting. I've been reading Nikki Sixx's Heroin Diaries, and something he kept asking himself was why he couldn't be like the other guys. They all did tons of drugs and alcohol, staggering amounts, in fact, but only one of them had a problem with it. The thing to remember is that some people can deal well with drugs and alcohol, and some people go completely off the rails. While I agree with all of your observations, I'd add that they probably see all of their peers coming out of it alright (hell, if Aeromsith and the Stones are still around. . .), and assume that they're going to come out of it just the same.

I'll also throw out that Niiki Sixx is adamant that he'd have been every bit as big a junky had he not been a rock star. Motley Crue gave him the money to do it well, but if he'd been living under a bridge he'd have been no different. Remember, rock stars come from the same pool that the rest of us do.

[DebraKadabra]

I know Gary Holt filled in for Jeff upon occasion...but I really hope Slayer just hangs it up.    Dave is gone again, Jeff is dead, Tom's been talking retirement for the past couple of tours....  It's time.   I think it's better to go out while you're still ahead.

Yeah, I totally agree.

Well, considering that nobody really seems to think much of Kerry King anymore, that probably would be best.

That too.

[jammindude]

In reading articles from Wiki...it is a bit unclear how far they got on the new album.   Sounds like they had finished a few songs...

They make is sound like Tom wanted to wait for Jeff...Kerry did some recording with Dave (before they had the falling out)...then they were in the studio which everyone *presumed* meant that Jeff was better (because Tom had said they wouldn't go into the studio until Jeff was better).    But there's been no update on how far that progressed or whether or not  Jeff was involved.   

I guess we'll wait and see... 

[philmcson]

The band have allegedly given a statement they'd still do their tour in Europe next month......

[Dark Castle]

Well Kerry King is a shitstain so no surprises there.

[jammindude]

The band have allegedly given a statement they'd still do their tour in Europe next month......

I have no problem with them finishing their standing obligations....maybe even one last tour in honor of Jeff *IF* the album is already done. 

[Dark Castle]

I'd rather see them take a break, and gather up a bunch of guest musicians, kind of like the Death to All tour that's in honour of Chuck Schuldinero

[black_biff_stadler]

I'm with jammindude on this one. It sucks that he died and it'd be more than understandable if they called off the tour but, since a lot of people's livelihood depends on this with it being a contractual obligation that was signed off on several months ago, the sudden cancellation of it could bring unnecessary financial hardship on the average joes doing everything from roadie work to merchandise and everything in between.

[Tomislav95]

R.I.P. Jeff

[jammindude]

I want to add to my earlier comment that *IF* (and only 'if') the album is done, it would actually be nice to have one last tour....but not without Dave. 

It sounds like a "Sabbath-like" situation....the drummer (and the fans) think he deserves an equal, 4-way split partnership....but the primary shareholders in the band feel differently.    Kerry probably won't pony up the dough though, even if it would be one last time for the fans.

You can do a farewell tour with 3 original members....not two.   Not in this situation anyway.    Slayer is just something that cannot exist without at least 3 of the original four.

[aprilethereal]

I pretty much despise Slayer nowadays but that was pretty unexpected

[DebraKadabra]

I want to add to my earlier comment that *IF* (and only 'if') the album is done, it would actually be nice to have one last tour....but not without Dave. 

It sounds like a "Sabbath-like" situation....the drummer (and the fans) think he deserves an equal, 4-way split partnership....but the primary shareholders in the band feel differently.    Kerry probably won't pony up the dough though, even if it would be one last time for the fans.

You can do a farewell tour with 3 original members....not two.   Not in this situation anyway.    Slayer is just something that cannot exist without at least 3 of the original four.

All that is true, but do we REALLY expect Kerry to NOT be a douche and to actually do the right thing for Dave?

[El Barto]

Slayer have shared the cause of Jeff Hanneman's death last week, saying they have just learned the guitarist died from alcohol-related cirrhosis of the liver. "While he had his health struggles over the years, including the recent necrotizing fasciitis infection that devastated his well-being, Jeff and those close to him were not aware of the true extent of his liver condition until the last days of his life," Slayer wrote on their website. "Contrary to some reports, Jeff was not on a transplant list at the time of his passing, or at any time prior to that. In fact, by all accounts, it appeared that he had been improving – he was excited and looking forward to working on a new record."

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/slayer-guitarist-jeff-hanneman-died-of-alcohol-related-cirrhosis-20130510#ixzz2SxN0hlhh

This is surprising to me. Not that he'd drink himself to death, but that nobody knew about it. If he had liver problems 2 years ago during the necrotizing fasciitis, the doctors certainly would have known about it. For it to have gone from non-diagnosed to failed in two years just seems odd.

[MondayMorningLunatic]

A horrible loss. I suspected alcoholism when I first heard about this, but it seemed premature to come out and say that.

R.I.P. Jeff

You wrote some awesome tunes- Angel Of Death, South Of Heaven, War Ensemble, Dead Skin Mask, etc.

[Ben_Jamin]

Slayer have shared the cause of Jeff Hanneman's death last week, saying they have just learned the guitarist died from alcohol-related cirrhosis of the liver. "While he had his health struggles over the years, including the recent necrotizing fasciitis infection that devastated his well-being, Jeff and those close to him were not aware of the true extent of his liver condition until the last days of his life," Slayer wrote on their website. "Contrary to some reports, Jeff was not on a transplant list at the time of his passing, or at any time prior to that. In fact, by all accounts, it appeared that he had been improving – he was excited and looking forward to working on a new record."

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/slayer-guitarist-jeff-hanneman-died-of-alcohol-related-cirrhosis-20130510#ixzz2SxN0hlhh

This is surprising to me. Not that he'd drink himself to death, but that nobody knew about it. If he had liver problems 2 years ago during the necrotizing fasciitis, the doctors certainly would have known about it. For it to have gone from non-diagnosed to failed in two years just seems odd.

If he didnt tell them it bothered him then they wont do anything about it.

[El Barto]

Slayer have shared the cause of Jeff Hanneman's death last week, saying they have just learned the guitarist died from alcohol-related cirrhosis of the liver. "While he had his health struggles over the years, including the recent necrotizing fasciitis infection that devastated his well-being, Jeff and those close to him were not aware of the true extent of his liver condition until the last days of his life," Slayer wrote on their website. "Contrary to some reports, Jeff was not on a transplant list at the time of his passing, or at any time prior to that. In fact, by all accounts, it appeared that he had been improving – he was excited and looking forward to working on a new record."

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/slayer-guitarist-jeff-hanneman-died-of-alcohol-related-cirrhosis-20130510#ixzz2SxN0hlhh

This is surprising to me. Not that he'd drink himself to death, but that nobody knew about it. If he had liver problems 2 years ago during the necrotizing fasciitis, the doctors certainly would have known about it. For it to have gone from non-diagnosed to failed in two years just seems odd.

If he didnt tell them it bothered him then they wont do anything about it.

When he was admitted to the hospital with mysterious symptoms, the first thing they'd have done was run a whole mess of blood tests. It just seems like decreased liver function would have been pretty apparent.

[rumborak]

Who's to say the doctors didn't know?  They can tell to you you're sick all day long,  but unless you change your habits,  there's nothing they can do. He wouldn't be the first to continue a self destructive behavior knowing fully well it'll kill him.

[El Barto]

Certainly a possibility (know one of those myself). Still the press release said he didn't know.