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Not really a grammatical complaint here, but I'm really getting sick of "legit".  It doesn't even mean anything anymore.  (That reminds me, grammar people:  "any more", or "anymore"?  Both?)

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I actually have a degree in English, if that's relevant.

And "alot" is not ever, under any circumstance, at any point in time, correct.
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Not really a grammatical complaint here, but I'm really getting sick of "legit".  It doesn't even mean anything anymore.  (That reminds me, grammar people:  "any more", or "anymore"?  Both?)
Any more! But again, it's not something I'm going to write to the queen about.

Who I should probably capitalise, but, hey! Fuck her!

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I can't stand it when people spell it "shop" instead of the proper "shoppe". Total buffoonery.
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I actually have a degree in English, if that's relevant.

And "alot" is not ever, under any circumstance, at any point in time, correct.

I have a degree in English, and I don't see why not. So there :P

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I actually have a degree in English, if that's relevant.

And "alot" is not ever, under any circumstance, at any point in time, correct.

I have a degree in English, and I don't see why not. So there :P
Because it's not a word.  Using a non-word as a word (or words, in this case, as "a lot" is two separate words) is gibberish.

I mean, if you want to use gibberish, that's up to you.  But you can't say it isn't gibberish.
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Correction: Official grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc., rant thread v. I hate you, Nirvana
                                                                                     
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                                                                               comma goes here

I forgive you for not italicizing "etc." because you don't have the option to italicize words in a thread topic. But forgetting the comma? Tsk tsk.
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It's a common colloquial usage that's perfectly acceptable in many forms of textual communication. I personally wouldn't drop "alot" in a formal document, but, then again, I probably wouldn't drop "a lot" in many, either.

English is full of goofy colloquialisms and the strange and informal usages that form as a result of them. When people bitch about grammar online, they're often trying to impose their understanding of formal standards onto poor, casual users. Well, I refuse to be oppressed, hef. You are the one on the wrong side of history here  ;D

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It's always funny when people try to dismiss another person's argument by citing their poor grammar. Especially on Youtube videos.

Person A: "I think such-and-such."
Person B: "Well, I disagree with such-and-such because I think this-and-that."
Person A: "You used 'there' rather than 'their'! You are an ignorant buffoon who does not deserve to live. Thus, your argument is invalid."
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Correction: Official grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc., rant thread v. I hate you, Nirvana
                                                                                     
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I forgive you for not italicizing "etc." because you don't have the option to italicize words in a thread topic. But forgetting the comma? Tsk tsk.

Incorrect.  You never put a comma after the last word/phrase of a sequence.  Ever. 





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I beat you to it, goon  :lol

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English is a terrible language for hard 'n fast grammar rules. For that, you need French. Compound words don't bother me. They're already implicitly acceptable in most cases.

I really hate apostrophes on proper nouns that already end with S.

Jesus', Moses', Ravens', etc.

Easily one of my least favorite nuances of the English language.

I'm assuming you're talking about the improper use of this...which I'm not sure I've seen.  (or if I have, I've never noticed)

I was taught in school that this was proper *IF* it is used in the possessive sense.   i.e.  Jesus' robe, Moses' staff...etc. 
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It's a common colloquial usage that's perfectly acceptable in many forms of textual communication. I personally wouldn't drop "alot" in a formal document, but, then again, I probably wouldn't drop "a lot" in many, either.

English is full of goofy colloquialisms and the strange and informal usages that form as a result of them. When people bitch about grammar online, they're often trying to impose their understanding of formal standards onto poor, casual users. Well, I refuse to be oppressed, hef. You are the one on the wrong side of history here  ;D
Anywhere else - fine. But this is the grammar thread!! Sin all you want, but on on holy ground!? One of the grammar-nuns just fainted.

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English is a terrible language for hard 'n fast grammar rules. For that, you need French. Compound words don't bother me. They're already implicitly acceptable in most cases.

I really hate apostrophes on proper nouns that already end with S.

Jesus', Moses', Ravens', etc.

Easily one of my least favorite nuances of the English language.

I'm assuming you're talking about the improper use of this...which I'm not sure I've seen.  (or if I have, I've never noticed)

I was taught in school that this was proper *IF* it is used in the possessive sense.   i.e.  Jesus' robe, Moses' staff...etc. 
With names of ancient people like Jesus and Moses, you do not add an extra -s. So Jesus' blood is correct. Although it is usually better to go with the laws of Moses, the blood of Jesus, and so on.

With modern names like Charles, it used to be the case that Charles' dog was preferred. Then we saw a transitional period where both Charles' dog and Charles's dog were accepted. Now Charles's dog is much more common, even though the former is still grammatically acceptable.
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Correction: Official grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc., rant thread v. I hate you, Nirvana
                                                                                     
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I forgive you for not italicizing "etc." because you don't have the option to italicize words in a thread topic. But forgetting the comma? Tsk tsk.

Incorrect.  You never put a comma after the last work/phrase of a sequence.  Ever. 
Your horribly mistaken.

Etc. always closes off a series; you would never use it in the middle or beginning of a series. You must add a comma after etc. at the end of a series (unless it is the end of the sentence).
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Correction: Official grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc., rant thread v. I hate you, Nirvana
                                                                                     
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I forgive you for not italicizing "etc." because you don't have the option to italicize words in a thread topic. But forgetting the comma? Tsk tsk.

Incorrect.  You never put a comma after the last work/phrase of a sequence.  Ever. 
Your horribly mistaken.

Etc. always closes off a series; you would never use it in the middle or beginning of a series. You must add a comma after etc. at the end of a series (unless it is the end of the sentence).

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Please don't laugh at his mistaken. Its quite serious.
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Please don't laugh at his mistaken. Its quite serious.

Whose quite serious, exactly?
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No, not exactly's. The quite serious belongs to bosk's mistaken.
"All great works are prepared in the desert, including the redemption of the world. The precursors, the followers, the Master Himself, all obeyed or have to obey one and the same law. Prophets, apostles, preachers, martyrs, pioneers of knowledge, inspired artists in every art, ordinary men and the Man-God, all pay tribute to loneliness, to the life of silence, to the night." - A. G. Sertillanges

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I am staying away from this. I am the worst speller on this board.
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I am staying away from this. I am the worst speller on this board.

Awe c'mon. It ain't that bad. Go have some desert.  :lol

All hail the King anyway.
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Not really a grammatical complaint here, but I'm really getting sick of "legit"

Same here... I always found that to be obnoxious :facepalm:

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I am staying away from this. I am the worst speller on this board.

Awe c'mon. It ain't that bad. Go have some desert.  :lol

All hail the King anyway.

Haha that reminded me of another howler.

People who put common instead of come on. . .

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Although many grammar fuckups annoy me, I think the more important thing to do, if you honestly consider yourself to be a mature and intelligent person, is to look the other way if it's something that in no way makes it any significant amount more difficult to understand. For example, if some re-re rapes their own texting style with num83r5 4nd le773r5 just to try in futility to be cool but ends up making it way inconvenient to read and comprehend, then I totally understand giving them shit. But for simple, albeit blatantly obvious and easy to avoid, fuckups like "would of", "your/you're", etc., which do nothing to make it harder to understand, I don't see any worthwhile reason to be bothered.
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I am staying away from this. I am the worst speller on this board.

Awe c'mon. It ain't that bad. Go have some desert.  :lol

All hail the King anyway.

You back stabbing mother....... :lol
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I actually have a degree in English, if that's relevant.

And "alot" is not ever, under any circumstance, at any point in time, correct.

I have a degree in English, and I don't see why not. So there :P
Because it's not a word.  Using a non-word as a word (or words, in this case, as "a lot" is two separate words) is gibberish.

I mean, if you want to use gibberish, that's up to you.  But you can't say it isn't gibberish.

Shakespeare and Dickens would disagree with you.
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I see a ton of spelling, punctuation and grammar mistakes on this and other forums constantly.


Some of the ones that bug me the most:


1. Inappropriate use of the apostrophe.


Example: It look's like his arms are tied behind his back.  How many time's will that happen?


2. Incorrect use of there, their and they're.


Example: I saw there eyes when their was only a minute left in the game. 


3. Wall of text posts (e.g. lack of paragraph use on long posts)


Example:

For example, if you are designing a brand new website for someone, most times you will have to make sure the prototype looks finished by inserting text or photos or what have you. The purpose of this is so the person viewing the prototype has a chance to actually feel and understand the idea behind what you have created.Now in some circumstances, designers may use squares and rectangles to help you visualize what should and could be in a specific location.We all have our own techniques, but one of the most effective techniques is to actually put some text where text goes and some pictures where pictures go to make sure everyone can see the vision you've created. Coming up with filler text on the fly is not easy, but it is becoming more and more of a requirement. Fortunately, some designers and developers around the web know this and have put together a bunch of text generators to help you present your vision.Some are standard (like the always popular ‘Lorem Ipsum’ generators) and some are really fun. Either way, pick one of your favorites from below and start generating text and completing your vision.


(the above is actually 4 paragraphs, not one)

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My top grammatical pet peeves:

1) Incorrect usage of "there", "their", and "they're". 

For example: "I've never been to there house.  I want to go their."

2) Incorrect usage of "your" and "you're".

For example: "Your so hot."

3) Incorrect usage of "then" and "than".

For example: "I would rather go to the baseball game then the concert."

4) Comma splices.

For example: "This is an example, it's a pretty good example."

5) Failure to capitalize proper nouns.

For example: "I made $100 in tips webcamming on the internet tonight."
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Here is one I didn't think of before:

Using a comma when you should use a semicolon. 

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5) Failure to capitalize proper nouns.

For example: "I made $100 in tips webcamming on the internet tonight."

To be fair, nobody capitalizes internet anymore.  I sure as hell don't.