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Which song do you prefer?

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Offline darkshade

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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2013, 09:58:03 PM »
Besides the fact that I think Ocatavarium is a more enjoyable listen, it doesn't help that A Change of Seasons is a stand-alone composition, with no album to be a part of. ACOS is still kick-ass, but I never got into it like I did 8vm. In fact, ACOS did nothing for me until years after being into DT. I also used to hate Portnoy's snare sound on ACOS. Octavarium is just beautiful all the way through.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2013, 10:20:20 PM »
Quote from: darkshade on April 19, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
Besides the fact that I think Ocatavarium is a more enjoyable listen, it doesn't help that A Change of Seasons is a stand-alone composition, with no album to be a part of. ACOS is still kick-ass, but I never got into it like I did 8vm. In fact, ACOS did nothing for me until years after being into DT. I also used to hate Portnoy's snare sound on ACOS. Octavarium is just beautiful all the way through.

I do believe this thread specifically refers to title tracks, and not to the CDs themselves. But I guess your vote wouldn't change regardless.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2013, 08:01:32 AM »
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 19, 2013, 10:20:20 PM
Quote from: darkshade on April 19, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
Besides the fact that I think Ocatavarium is a more enjoyable listen, it doesn't help that A Change of Seasons is a stand-alone composition, with no album to be a part of. ACOS is still kick-ass, but I never got into it like I did 8vm. In fact, ACOS did nothing for me until years after being into DT. I also used to hate Portnoy's snare sound on ACOS. Octavarium is just beautiful all the way through.

I do believe this thread specifically refers to title tracks, and not to the CDs themselves. But I guess your vote wouldn't change regardless.


Exactly. I did not know one's opinion of a song can be influenced by its surrounding songs, but I guess so. :-[
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2013, 04:15:25 PM »
I think he was voting for the songs on a song-by-song basis, and just mentioned Octavarium's role in the album because Intervals is even better with the seven songs preceding it?
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2013, 05:23:38 PM »
I voted Octavarium because I like the song Octavarium and also the album Octavarium.

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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2013, 09:37:01 PM »
Quote from: robwebster on April 20, 2013, 04:15:25 PM
I think he was voting for the songs on a song-by-song basis, and just mentioned Octavarium's role in the album because Intervals is even better with the seven songs preceding it?

Sort of. I wasn't rating the tunes based on the rest of the albums they're on, but ACOS is alone on the EP, nothing to contrast it with, if you know what I mean. 8vm has the lead up to the title track, and then the big ka-boom that is Octavarium. But nonetheless, 8vm still wins for me. I have more emotional attachment to it.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #76 on: April 21, 2013, 03:38:47 AM »
ACOS is clearly in the lead now! :tup
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #77 on: April 21, 2013, 11:27:27 AM »
Here is a different angle.

I don't choose if I only listen them musically (including vocals). They are both epic and classic. Lyrics-wise, ACOS takes the cake. It has deep meaning and touching. I really love the story and it's like every note just screams the words. So it's just an "another world" to me.

 
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2013, 12:12:25 PM »
A Change of Seasons.

The only thing that separates the two for me is the beginning of Octavarium. It takes a while to get going, whereas ACOS is underway pretty much from 0:00. Otherwise, Octavarium is right up there, at no. 2 after ACOS.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #79 on: April 21, 2013, 04:20:07 PM »
Quote from: SeRoX on April 21, 2013, 11:27:27 AM
Here is a different angle.

I don't choose if I only listen them musically (including vocals). They are both epic and classic. Lyrics-wise, ACOS takes the cake. It has deep meaning and touching. I really love the story and it's like every note just screams the words. So it's just an "another world" to me.

While the lyrics are more meaningful in terms of subject matter, a few of them in ACOS seem a little amateurish. A lot of them are great, it's not as bad as The Best of Times, but still, I find that Octavarium lyrics are much tighter and better put together.

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A Change of Seasons.

The only thing that separates the two for me is the beginning of Octavarium. It takes a while to get going, whereas ACOS is underway pretty much from 0:00. Otherwise, Octavarium is right up there, at no. 2 after ACOS.

I usually, hate long, drawn out intros. I find they diminish songs like Trial of Tears, The Great Debate, etc. But for Octavarium, it's just the opposite, I freakin' love that intro.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2013, 08:24:14 AM »
ACOS by far. I don't really like much about Octavarium, but I love ACOS start to finish.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2013, 07:42:25 PM »
Glad to see that ACOS is winning.  :2metal:
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #82 on: April 22, 2013, 11:09:46 PM »
ACOS....by a lightyear... :yarr
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2013, 11:28:33 PM »
Should have had 'None of the above', or something.  I really don't care for either one.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #84 on: April 23, 2013, 08:31:50 AM »
Same as CrimsonSunrise!! :tup

And I'm REALLY surprised that there is so little difference between the two songs in this poll... :yeahright
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #85 on: April 23, 2013, 11:18:00 AM »
Quote from: CrimsonSunrise on April 22, 2013, 11:09:46 PM
ACOS....by a lightyear... :yarr

I wish I could find the post ScurvyDreams made on this topic . . . it beautifully encapsulated why A Change of Seasons is so great and why Octavarium pales in comparison. Not that OV is bad by any means.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #86 on: April 23, 2013, 12:24:00 PM »
ITT: 90 voters that are WRONG.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #87 on: April 23, 2013, 12:29:44 PM »
Quote from: Mindflux on April 23, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
ITT: 90 voters that are WRONG.

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Octavarium only has 74 votes right now.  You're doing it wrong.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #88 on: April 23, 2013, 12:49:52 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on April 23, 2013, 12:29:44 PM

Octavarium only has 74 votes right now.  You're doing it wrong.

YDIW!
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #89 on: April 23, 2013, 01:51:18 PM »
Octavarium feels more cohesive, but A Change of Seasons has a certain character a about it that gives it the edge for me.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #90 on: April 23, 2013, 02:20:09 PM »
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 21, 2013, 04:20:07 PM
I usually, hate long, drawn out intros. I find they diminish songs like Trial of Tears, The Great Debate, etc.

The Great Debate is a brilliant intro. It builds up tension, whereas Octavarium and Trial of Tears just seem to be stuck in a lull for a few minutes.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #91 on: April 23, 2013, 03:38:19 PM »
Trial of Tears is completely amazing and every second of it is fucking great.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #92 on: April 23, 2013, 03:52:00 PM »
I've always wondered if Octavarium was released as an EP would it be higher in the DT ranking world if it wasn't associated with it's album?  More I heat is bad album, great tune.
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #93 on: April 23, 2013, 03:53:17 PM »
Quote from: Mindflux on April 23, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on April 23, 2013, 12:29:44 PM

Octavarium only has 74 votes right now.  You're doing it wrong.

YDIW!

There is no right or wrong really.  Only a matter of degree.  I would say most of those who voted for ACOS still like 8VM a lot and vise versa.  They are both great songs.  The only difference is which one speaks to you the most.   :biggrin:
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #94 on: April 23, 2013, 03:55:58 PM »
I have to vote for 8vm
it's my favorite DT song

what's funny is that when the album was released in 2005, I did not like the song at all but after seeing it live at Radio City Music Hall I was instantly sold and the rest is history
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Re: A Change of Seasons or Octavarium?
« Reply #95 on: April 24, 2013, 07:43:59 PM »
Surprisingly, Octavarium was the first DT song I EVER listened to. So yeah, it's stuck to me, my favorite album, first bought, etc.
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