Explosions Near the Finish of Boston Marathon

[EdenHazard]

I don't know why anyone would post that picture.

[rumborak]

I don't know why anyone would post that picture.

This, yeah. That pic needed triple warning, because it is gruesome.

EB, I would think even you would let a squad into your house if there's a chance there's a guy with explosives in it without your knowledge.

Nobody's getting into my place without my knowledge.

That might be a peculiarity of the place you live. Here in New England almost all houses have basements that are easily gotten into through old coal chute etc or secondary entrances.

[El Barto]

I don't know why anyone would post that picture.

This, yeah. That pic needed triple warning, because it is gruesome.

EB, I would think even you would let a squad into your house if there's a chance there's a guy with explosives in it without your knowledge.

Nobody's getting into my place without my knowledge.

That might be a peculiarity of the place you live. Here in New England almost all houses have basements that are easily gotten into through old coal chute etc or secondary entrances.

Yeah, we don't have basements down here. We have attics, and they're only accessible from the inside. Whether or not to let them in would be a tough call for me. They wouldn't be looking for the sorts of contraband they'd find in my place, and if they bothered to bust me for it, which they wouldn't, it'd get tossed later anyway. My concern would be the distinct possibility that they return 2-90 days later with a warrant once they have nothing better to do.

[eric42434224]

I put a big warning about the pic in the previous post.

[eric42434224]

I think its going down

[gmillerdrake]

I put a big warning about the pic in the previous post.

Like a bad traffic accident I tried not to look but dang it I clicked that link. I hope I can forget that image. It's horrible.

[yorost]

I put a big warning about the pic in the previous post.

An article with a picture about the bomber made me think maybe it had been the guy.

[antigoon]

With the house-to-house search going on, how does that work as far as getting a search warrant?  I mean, the law says you have to have a search warrant to search someone's house, so this is a case where you get one that applies to a whole city and is gotten in the interests of getting an armed terrorist off the streets?  Someone with legal expertise educate me here.

I don't know if this would qualify as exigent circumstances or not. Probably not, though. Interesting question, though. I don't know as I'd let Johnny into my apartment, even under these circumstances. Most likely scenario is that by talking to you for a few minutes, they could get a pretty good idea if you're harboring somebody-voluntarily or otherwise-or if you're just one of those 4th amendment whack jobs like me. My guess is that if they thought you had something to hide, they'd go in anyway and let the courts sort it out later. The kind of stuff they'd find in my place wouldn't interest them, as it'd probably get tossed due to the search.

Exigent circumstances, or more specifically hot pursuit -- although there's definitely a blurry line when the hot pursuit transitions back into a normal police investigation. But yeah, like Rumbo said, the vast majority of these folks are consenting to searches.

[Fuzzboy]

i keep looking at that gash on the left side of his chest and I can't figure out how that could have been made.

[eric42434224]

i keep looking at that gash on the left side of his chest and I can't figure out how that could have been made.

I read that his brother ran over him in a car.  Wonder if that is it.

[Chino]

i keep looking at that gash on the left side of his chest and I can't figure out how that could have been made.

I read that his brother ran over him in a car.  Wonder if that is it.

Don't they sometimes do that as a last ditch effort in surgery to try and stop internal bleeding?

[El Barto]

i keep looking at that gash on the left side of his chest and I can't figure out how that could have been made.

I read that his brother ran over him in a car.  Wonder if that is it.

Don't they sometimes do that as a last ditch effort in surgery to try and stop internal bleeding?

My understanding is the gash was the result of medical intervention.

[El Barto]

Wow. Fox's coverage of the standoff is really bad. They all have the same live view, but their analysis is late and wrong.

Looks like this is going down just like the Dorner thing. Seems they flashbanged him and now his hideout's on fire.

[eric42434224]

Wow. Fox's coverage of the standoff is really bad. They all have the same live view, but their analysis is late and wrong.

Looks like this is going down just like the Dorner thing. Seems they flashbanged him and now his hideout's on fire.

Isnt he in a boat?

[El Barto]

Wow. Fox's coverage of the standoff is really bad. They all have the same live view, but their analysis is late and wrong.

Looks like this is going down just like the Dorner thing. Seems they flashbanged him and now his hideout's on fire.

Isnt he in a boat?

Now a burning boat, apparently.

[eric42434224]

Havent heard anything about the boat being on fire at all
 

[millahh]

Wow. Fox's coverage of the standoff is really bad. They all have the same live view, but their analysis is late and wrong.

Looks like this is going down just like the Dorner thing. Seems they flashbanged him and now his hideout's on fire.

Isnt he in a boat?

Now a burning boat, apparently.

They're giving him a Viking funeral, apparently?

[jammindude]

I've heard several reports of GUNfire....but no reports of a fire.

[millahh]

I've heard several reports of GUNfire....but no reports of a fire.

I did hear a mention of the boat being on fire on TV.

[El Barto]

A cop told NBC they flashbanged and engaged the boat, and later that there appeared to be a fire aboard.

At this point, does anybody really believe that they want to take this knucklehead alive? FOX is taking pains to say over and over that they want to capture, not kill him. That seems really unlikely for a variety of reasons.

[antigoon]

He's in custody according to CBS Boston.

[Scrub206]

He's in custody according to my facebook feed.... lmao

[JayOctavarium]

Woah
 




https://news.yahoo.com/marathon-runner-witnesses-double-disasters-230623751.html

[MetalMike06]

So they got him alive. What's weird (though somehow not surprsing), the FOX article keeps referring to them as "radicalized Muslims" when we still really don't know what their motives were. There's no direct evidence linking their religion or ethnicity to this.

[King Postwhore]

Lots of cheering from the live shots on local Boston Tv here.  People are hitting the streets thanking the police.

[El Barto]

So they got him alive. What's weird (though somehow not surprsing), the FOX article keeps referring to them as "radicalized Muslims" when we still really don't know what their motives were. There's no direct evidence linking their religion or ethnicity to this.

That's seems weird to you?

[rumborak]

A cop told NBC they flashbanged and engaged the boat, and later that there appeared to be a fire aboard.

At this point, does anybody really believe that they want to take this knucklehead alive? FOX is taking pains to say over and over that they want to capture, not kill him. That seems really unlikely for a variety of reasons.

EB, have you ever wondered whether you've gone beyond the edge?
They apprehended the guy so he can be brought to justice. It was their job, and they preformed it marvelously. No ulterior motives, they simply did the job they vowed for when they started it.

[MetalJunkie]

A cop told NBC they flashbanged and engaged the boat, and later that there appeared to be a fire aboard.

At this point, does anybody really believe that they want to take this knucklehead alive? FOX is taking pains to say over and over that they want to capture, not kill him. That seems really unlikely for a variety of reasons.

EB, have you ever wondered whether you've gone beyond the edge?

[Super Dude]

No, I think more like flanderization.

[cramx3]

From my understanding based on the news, the guy has been hiding in a boat (not in the water, but in someones backyard, under the tarp) all day with wounds from the shoot out last night.  They caught him and all is good now. 

[El Barto]

A cop told NBC they flashbanged and engaged the boat, and later that there appeared to be a fire aboard.

At this point, does anybody really believe that they want to take this knucklehead alive? FOX is taking pains to say over and over that they want to capture, not kill him. That seems really unlikely for a variety of reasons.

EB, have you ever wondered whether you've gone beyond the edge?
They apprehended the guy so he can be brought to justice. It was their job, and they preformed it marvelously. No ulterior motives, they simply did the job they vowed for when they started it.

The reason we have corpse-porn on the preceding page is because cops were sending the picture back and forth to each other to revel in his ugly demise. "Mission accomplished. We’re halfway there. Justice is served." We've got good, God-fearing Christians on this board who were hoping he caught one to save everybody the trouble of a trial, and I suspect half the country shares this sentiment. I wasn't suggesting that there's some conspiracy to snuff the guy before bringing him to trial, which I'm sure is what you think. I was pointing out that the official aim is probably not at all what the people who were there to carry it out were interested in.

As for the outcome, it does appear that they did a commendable and professional job. I say that knowing very little about what actually went down, just basing it on the end result. Once the details come out, I might be changing that assessment, though. Particularly, I do have to wonder if they were so concerned about explosives on or near him, how could they possibly think flashbanging him was a good idea? In light of the fact that they opted to burn Dorner out a few months ago, if they did in fact set the boat on fire I'm likely to have a problem with that.

[Ħ]

So...apparently El Barto's backpack friend did turn out to be one of the suspects.

[El Barto]

So...apparently El Barto's backpack friend did turn out to be one of the suspects.

Yeah, I really dodged a bullet on that one.

[Fuzzboy]

wow some people I know want the guy dead immediately. I don't get why they aren't curious as to why they did it in the first place. I was really hoping they'd catch at least one of them alive just to get some general info out of him.

[MetalMike06]

So they got him alive. What's weird (though somehow not surprsing), the FOX article keeps referring to them as "radicalized Muslims" when we still really don't know what their motives were. There's no direct evidence linking their religion or ethnicity to this.

That's seems weird to you?

Nah. I guess I just meant to say it's obviously wrong to report that when there is no evidence yet to indicate what their motives were, but like I said it doesn't surprise me that that Fox reported it that way.