Author Topic: Amorphis... blow? (Read 120662 times)

gazinwales · « **Reply #805 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:49:11 PM »

'Queen Of Time' is probably the most growl heavy album of the TJ era, it's also their most progressive too.
As I've stated may times Tomi Joutsen is the best growler in metal and then some.
I would suggest to try 'Under The Red Cloud' almost as good as QoT.

Big Hath · « **Reply #806 on:** March 16, 2021, 11:02:46 PM »

Queen of Time is a masterpiece imo. Red Cloud may not quite reach that high for me, but it is up there and great songs as well.

I know I've mentioned it before, but our cat's name is Sampo. And we just got a dog recently and named her Reverie (after the Opeth album/song).

gazinwales · « **Reply #807 on:** March 16, 2021, 11:19:45 PM »

Yup I agree it's pretty close to being the perfect Amorphis album, Red Cloud is almost as good.
But that opening of 'The Bee' with Tomi's growl just floors me every time I hear it.

wolfking · « **Reply #808 on:** March 17, 2021, 12:14:10 AM »

Quote from: Big Hath on March 16, 2021, 11:02:46 PM

Queen of Time is a masterpiece imo. Red Cloud may not quite reach that high for me, but it is up there and great songs as well.

I know I've mentioned it before, but our cat's name is Sampo. And we just got a dog recently and named her Reverie (after the Opeth album/song).

I think I agree. It's one of the most complete albums of the last few years. I'd probably classify it as my fav Amorphis album.

ariich · « **Reply #809 on:** March 17, 2021, 12:24:29 AM »

Queen of Time is incredible.

And yeah Skyforger has the most clean vocals of the Joutsen era. In terms of songwriting, I do still love it but I actually think its one of the weaker of this era, along with The Beginning of Times. The rest I consider outright amazing.

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #810 on:** March 17, 2021, 01:36:36 AM »

I think Red Cloud is even better than Queen Of Time, but both are stellar albums. And I have a soft spot for Eclipse, the first one with Tomi Joutsen and the return of growls in Amorphis music.

ariich · « **Reply #811 on:** March 17, 2021, 03:49:40 AM »

Alright, sounds like it's ranking time!

Top-tier:
1. Queen of Time
2. Silent Waters
3. Eclipse
4. Under the Red Cloud
5. Circle

Also great:
6. Skyforger
7. The Beginning of Times
8. Am Universum
9. Elegy

Still good:
10. Tuonela
11. Magic & Mayhem: Tales From the Early Years

Decent:
12. Tales from the Thousand Lakes
13. Far From the Sun

Ew no:
14. The Karelian Isthmus

wolfking · « **Reply #812 on:** March 17, 2021, 06:09:05 AM »

I think I'd take Circle over Red Cloud truthfully.

Luoto · « **Reply #813 on:** March 17, 2021, 07:27:03 AM »

I might as well.

10/10
1. Under the Red Cloud

9/10
2. Eclipse
3. Elegy

8/10
4. Queen of Time
5. Skyforger
6. Silent Waters
7. Tales from the Thousand Lakes
8. Circle

7/10
9. The Beginning of Times
10. Tuonela
11. Am Universum

6/10
12. The Karelian Isthmus
13. Far from the Sun

gazinwales · « **Reply #814 on:** March 17, 2021, 01:21:14 PM »

Top Tier:
Queen Of Time
Under The Red Cloud
Elegy
Tuonela

Not far below:
Circle
The Beginnings Of Time
Am Universum

Good but not killer:
Silent Waters
Eclipse
Far From The Sun

The rest:
Skyforger
Tales
The Karelian Isthmus (never heard it)

425 · « **Reply #815 on:** March 17, 2021, 05:52:04 PM »

Quote from: ariich on March 17, 2021, 12:24:29 AM

Queen of Time is incredible.

And yeah Skyforger has the most clean vocals of the Joutsen era. In terms of songwriting, I do still love it but I actually think its one of the weaker of this era, along with The Beginning of Times. The rest I consider outright amazing.

Quote from: gazinwales on March 16, 2021, 10:49:11 PM

'Queen Of Time' is probably the most growl heavy album of the TJ era, it's also their most progressive too.
As I've stated may times Tomi Joutsen is the best growler in metal and then some.
I would suggest to try 'Under The Red Cloud' almost as good as QoT.

Awesome, if the other recent-ish ones are somewhere between Skyforger and Queen of Time in balance of vocal styles, I'll be pretty happy with that.

Seeing all the positivity here for Under the Red Cloud make me think I'll go backwards from here for a while (and of course get the new one that I think they're working on right now when it comes out).

Luoto · « **Reply #816 on:** March 19, 2021, 07:26:54 AM »

New live album announced, releases May 21st.

Setlist: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/amorphis/2019/jaahalli-helsinki-finland-1b9a6938.html

wolfking · « **Reply #817 on:** March 19, 2021, 06:08:02 PM »

WardySI · « **Reply #818 on:** March 20, 2021, 05:52:13 AM »

So far as the TJ era goes love it all and my list would look something like this (and may be wrong but I thought we were expecting a new studio album this year no?)...

Skyforger
Silent Waters
Eclipse
Under The Red Cloud
Queen Of Time
Circle
The Beginning Of Times

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #819 on:** March 20, 2021, 09:52:48 AM »

Not that keen on live albums anymore, but I will probably still get this. But new studio would be better.

Luoto · « **Reply #820 on:** March 20, 2021, 10:02:24 AM »

They're currently recording a full-length, yes.

425 · « **Reply #821 on:** March 20, 2021, 11:41:54 AM »

Awesome, looking forward to both the live album and the new studio album. Looks like that setlist has a lot of my favorites from Queen of Time, which I have been listening to almost obsessively this week. Of the ones they could do with the standard lineup (so not Amongst Stars), I'd have loved to see Grain of Sand, but I'll absolutely take The Bee, Heart of the Giant and Pyres on the Coast. Plus Sampo and Silver Bride!

Already went ahead and ordered Under the Red Cloud.

wolfking · « **Reply #822 on:** March 20, 2021, 02:25:50 PM »

I would have loved We Accused. I'm in love with that song.

425 · « **Reply #823 on:** March 20, 2021, 02:30:44 PM »

Oh, man, that's another one I forgot about! That one is awesome, too. It's such a good album, and insanely consistent.

gazinwales · « **Reply #824 on:** March 26, 2021, 06:53:37 AM »

First single from Esa's upcoming album, sounds amazing

https://youtu.be/wTQBfqxi4cc

wolfking · « **Reply #825 on:** March 26, 2021, 04:07:22 PM »

Quote from: gazinwales on March 26, 2021, 06:53:37 AM

First single from Esa's upcoming album, sounds amazing
https://youtu.be/wTQBfqxi4cc

Something a bit different but I enjoyed this. Dunno who old mate is but he has a great voice. Love the song structure too. Keen for this now actually.

gazinwales · « **Reply #826 on:** March 26, 2021, 04:18:46 PM »

Yeah not sure what I was expecting, but this different some great subtle stuff going on and Esa's guitar tone superb.
If the rest of the album is this good I hope, already pre-ordered Japan CD.

gazinwales · « **Reply #827 on:** May 22, 2021, 09:51:45 AM »

Live At Helsinki Ice Hall is out now, video lyric (for a live song?) House Of Sleep
https://youtu.be/GV01J7jqCf0

wolfking · « **Reply #828 on:** May 23, 2021, 03:30:51 AM »

Quote from: gazinwales on May 22, 2021, 09:51:45 AM

Live At Helsinki Ice Hall is out now, video lyric (for a live song?) House Of Sleep
https://youtu.be/GV01J7jqCf0

Out already!? I'll have to get onto this.

Luoto · « **Reply #829 on:** May 23, 2021, 08:09:26 AM »

The live album is the kind of quality you'd expect from this band's shows. The mix is pretty good, it's not easy to get enough rhythm guitar to cut through the mix with their sound but it's decent here. Some of the live arrangements also give additional value to the release, like the extended middle section in Sampo that makes it even better than the original studio version in my opinion.

I also can't help but notice how heavy that setlist is. They dropped some older hits in favor of more Queen of Time songs and this is the result.

gazinwales · « **Reply #830 on:** May 30, 2021, 12:35:07 AM »

Esa's album is finally and it's an absolute beauty.
Not as heavy as Amorphis with quite a few different styles and singer present throughout the record.
https://www.discogs.com/Esa-Holopainen-Silver-Lake/release/18930796

Most recent video, seems a little odd at first, but with a few listens to seems to work quite well.
https://youtu.be/71_0evn_3mU

wolfking · « **Reply #831 on:** May 30, 2021, 03:14:42 AM »

Hoping JB has both these releases in store next week.

gazinwales · « **Reply #832 on:** May 30, 2021, 03:50:11 AM »

Mine are in transit from CD Japan

wolfking · « **Reply #833 on:** May 30, 2021, 04:53:13 AM »

Quote from: gazinwales on May 30, 2021, 03:50:11 AM

Mine are in transit from CD Japan

I haven't done any ordering for a while as there hasn't been a lot I've wanted to spend my money on but these two look the goods. Might have to result to some online ordering for these possibly.

wolfking · « **Reply #834 on:** June 05, 2021, 03:15:13 AM »

Found a JB in the city today where I managed to get both the new Amorphis and Esa's album too. Looking forward to digging into them.

gazinwales · « **Reply #835 on:** June 05, 2021, 08:00:56 PM »

Live At Helsinki Ice Hall is great, slightly rawer (as you'd expect) from the album versions and Tomi sounds amazing.
Esa's album is pretty solid, not really as good I thought it would be with the singers involved.

wolfking · « **Reply #836 on:** June 06, 2021, 03:26:26 AM »

Quote from: gazinwales on June 05, 2021, 08:00:56 PM

Live At Helsinki Ice Hall is great, slightly rawer (as you'd expect) from the album versions and Tomi sounds amazing.
Esa's album is pretty solid, not really as good I thought it would be with the singers involved.

That's a bit of a shame. I'll report back my thoughts when I listen.

nick_z · « **Reply #837 on:** June 06, 2021, 03:05:15 PM »

Quote from: gazinwales on June 05, 2021, 08:00:56 PM

Esa's album is pretty solid, not really as good I thought it would be with the singers involved.

Feel kind of the same way about Esa's album. Very enjoyable listen, but not blown away (maybe that's not the kind of album that's supposed to do that anyway...). I like the songs with Renske and the first single (Storm). Einar's song is growing on me. The couple of instrumentals/semi-instrumentals are very pleasant. Not too impressed by the songs featuring Tomi and and Strid. Anneke is always Anneke but I've heard better from her

wolfking · « **Reply #838 on:** June 06, 2021, 06:45:21 PM »

Had one listen of Esa's album and I thought it was really nice. Very short and not much to it but I didn't really have any expectations but I really enjoyed it and loved the variety throughout. Bjorn's song was nice and really like Anneke's song too. Storm could be up there for song of the year, fuck that's so good.

Lethean · « **Reply #839 on:** June 14, 2021, 10:54:41 PM »

I'm not an Amorphis fan, so maybe I'm experiencing Esa's album a little differently as a result, but I like it more than I thought I would. I don't know what I was really expecting, but I agree with wolfking that it's really nice. Although I'm not that into the singer's voice on Storm (and he has the unfortunate placement of being between two of my favorite singers). And as usual I could do without the harsh vocals on the one track, but otherwise I like the rest. Jonas' tracks took a few times to grow on me but they and Einar's track are incredible. The spoken word track is pretty cool and Promising Sun and Fading Moon are really nice.

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

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