Author Topic: Amorphis... blow? (Read 120157 times)

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #210 on:** May 31, 2011, 05:13:14 PM »

At this point Amorphis could release the biggest lump of turd imaginable and I would not care. In my books, they have four ridiculously good records, and their 20 or 30 best songs are legendary. Everything they do from now on is just gravy.

? · « **Reply #211 on:** June 01, 2011, 12:11:07 AM »

Esa said in an interview that years ago people criticized them for changing too much, and now there are complaints about not changing. He said that nowadays they prefer staying in the same style and evolving it to changing constantly. IMO they have made so many changes in style during their career that I don't care if they'll keep on doing albums like the last few, especially when they are very good!

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #212 on:** June 01, 2011, 02:29:30 PM »

That's a good point. Tales from the Thousand Lakes -> Elegy was a paradigm shift for obvious reasons. Elegy -> Tuonela was a paradigm shift because the growls were almost completely gone. Far from the Sun -> Eclipse was a paradigm shift because the growls came back. That's three paradigm shifts over like 10 years or something, which is more than most bands ever have, I feel like.

Dr. DTVT · « **Reply #213 on:** June 01, 2011, 03:02:39 PM »

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on June 01, 2011, 02:29:30 PM

Far from the Sun -> Eclipse was a paradigm shift because they shit the bed on Far from the Sun

FTFY. Tomi couldn't have saved FftS. FftS has moments...but the best song on FftS probably isn't much better than the worst songs on Tuonela and AM Universum - to stick with the Pasi albums.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #214 on:** June 01, 2011, 04:48:43 PM »

I'm talking about style not quality, but either way, yes, between Far from the Sun and Eclipse there was a huge change.

? · « **Reply #215 on:** June 03, 2011, 03:21:01 AM »

Amorphis topped the Finnish charts!

They're above Lady Gaga!

https://www.ifpi.fi/tilastot/virallinen-lista/albumit/2011/22

wolfking · « **Reply #216 on:** June 03, 2011, 05:01:47 AM »

That's a damn fine effort!!

wolfking · « **Reply #217 on:** June 05, 2011, 06:16:38 AM »

? has started the Silent Waters survivor, everybody go there now!!

faemir · « **Reply #218 on:** June 05, 2011, 06:06:12 PM »

So new era rankings time.

Silent Waters > The Beginning of Times > Eclipse >> Skyforger

? · « **Reply #219 on:** June 05, 2011, 11:39:02 PM »

The Beginning of Times > Skyforger > Silent Waters > Eclipse

All albums ranked:

TBOT
Skyforger
SW
Tuonela
Elegy
Tales...
Eclipse
Am Universum
Karelian Isthmus
Far from the Sun

faemir · « **Reply #220 on:** June 06, 2011, 04:16:18 AM »

as much as I love AU and Elegy (the other two i know), I think the new material destroys the old.

ariich · « **Reply #221 on:** June 06, 2011, 12:26:25 PM »

Quote from: faemir on June 05, 2011, 06:06:12 PM

So new era rankings time.

Silent Waters > The Beginning of Times > Eclipse >> Skyforger

This exactly.

Quote from: faemir on June 06, 2011, 04:16:18 AM

as much as I love AU and Elegy, I think the new material destroys the old.

AND THIS EXACTLY.

What the hell, we never agree this much.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #222 on:** June 06, 2011, 12:56:44 PM »

I used to think that, but every time I listen to an old album, I love it more whereas every time I listen to a new album, it kind of stays the same. I would put Elegy and Tuonela above any of the new stuff.

faemir · « **Reply #223 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:49:31 PM »

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on June 06, 2011, 12:56:44 PM

I used to think that, but every time I listen to an old album, I love it more whereas every time I listen to a new album, it kind of stays the same. I would put Elegy and Tuonela above any of the new stuff.

The rerecorded Elegy stuff with Tomi is pretty intense, admittedly.

Quote from: ariich on June 06, 2011, 12:26:25 PM

Quote from: faemir on June 05, 2011, 06:06:12 PM
So new era rankings time.

Silent Waters > The Beginning of Times > Eclipse >> Skyforger
This exactly.

Quote from: faemir on June 06, 2011, 04:16:18 AM
as much as I love AU and Elegy, I think the new material destroys the old.
AND THIS EXACTLY.

What the hell, we never agree this much.

Finally some sense!

? · « **Reply #224 on:** June 08, 2011, 02:09:55 AM »

I think some of you fellow Amorphis fans could like Kingston Wall, they were a huge influence on Amorphis. I made a thread for them here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=23753.0

faemir · « **Reply #225 on:** June 08, 2011, 12:38:48 PM »

Can someone change the topic name? It bugs me.

wolfking · « **Reply #226 on:** June 08, 2011, 05:26:33 PM »

Quote from: faemir on June 08, 2011, 12:38:48 PM

Can someone change the topic name? It bugs me.

I think only j can do that. I agree though, if I see him I'll tell him.

ariich · « **Reply #227 on:** June 08, 2011, 05:37:14 PM »

Or I can just do it.

wolfking · « **Reply #228 on:** June 08, 2011, 05:38:54 PM »

Quote from: ariich on June 08, 2011, 05:37:14 PM

Or I can just do it.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #229 on:** June 08, 2011, 05:43:15 PM »

But now his joke in the OP makes no sense at the expense of some butthurt fanboy.

I can't take this anymore. I'm leaving forever.

*Grabs bag but realizes it's too heavy to carry*

I'll send for my things.

? · « **Reply #230 on:** June 09, 2011, 01:13:47 AM »

Glad to see the thread title changed finally!

Remember to vote here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=23832.0

j · « **Reply #231 on:** June 10, 2011, 12:41:13 AM »

Damn you, ariich! *shakes fist*

Still haven't gotten hold of their new album. It is now my top musical acquisition priority.

-J

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #232 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:37:17 PM »

After listening to the first nine songs, the only one that grabbed my soul and raped it into submission was "Battle for Light". Oh well. More listens required! This will be fun!

Phantasmatron · « **Reply #233 on:** June 11, 2011, 09:24:15 PM »

Best Buy's music selection officially sucks now. No Amorphis this week. Next time I'm up by a mall, I need to swing by FYE because I NEED TO HEAR THIS ALBUM.

? · « **Reply #234 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:09:08 AM »

Looking at the recent setlists, they have so far played the following new songs live:

Battle for Light
My Enemy
You I Need
Three Words
Crack in a Stone

I'm surprised at the lack of Mermaid. However, the latter 2 are among my favorites, hopefully they'll keep them in the setlist!

Wish they'd announce the Finnish tour dates already...

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #235 on:** June 16, 2011, 07:17:52 AM »

After a few more listens, I can add "Mermaid" the Amorphis list of soul-destroyers. The rest will need more time.

skydivingninja · « **Reply #236 on:** June 16, 2011, 07:56:36 AM »

So I like the Amorphis I've heard...are Silent Waters or the new album worth it?

ariich · « **Reply #237 on:** June 16, 2011, 01:14:04 PM »

Silent Waters absolutely definitely is! I would say the new album is as well. Both are great!

nikatapi · « **Reply #238 on:** June 16, 2011, 01:17:00 PM »

Quote from: ariich on June 16, 2011, 01:14:04 PM

Silent Waters absolutely definitely is! I would say the new album is as well. Both are great!

Indeed, Silent Waters is an amazing record, these songs were stuck in my head for a long time. I didn't dig the new album so much, but it has some amazing songs. Mermaid is my favorite.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #239 on:** June 16, 2011, 02:45:15 PM »

Quote from: skydivingninja on June 16, 2011, 07:56:36 AM

So I like the Amorphis I've heard...are Silent Waters or the new album worth it?

If you like the Amorphis you've heard, then isn't your question already answered?

Dr. DTVT · « **Reply #240 on:** June 16, 2011, 02:48:46 PM »

People who don't like Silent Waters are rotting pieces of festering shit.

? · « **Reply #241 on:** June 17, 2011, 12:59:32 AM »

All Amorphis albums are worth hearing (except Karelian Isthmus and Far from the Sun, despite having a few good songs)!

wolfking · « **Reply #242 on:** June 17, 2011, 05:23:53 AM »

Hoping to find Beginning of Times in store this weekend. Wasn't available last weekend, so I'm getting very anxious for it.

Quote from: skydivingninja on June 16, 2011, 07:56:36 AM

So I like the Amorphis I've heard...are Silent Waters or the new album worth it?

Yes, and also Skyforger and Eclipse.

faemir · « **Reply #243 on:** June 17, 2011, 01:57:16 PM »

Quote from: ariich on June 16, 2011, 01:14:04 PM

Silent Waters absolutely definitely is! I would say the new album is as well. Both are great!

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #244 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:37:32 AM »

So the new Amorphis is amazing, just a little long. Drop "Reformation" and "Soothsayer" and it's perfect!

EDIT: I just spent 15 minutes throwing together some thoughts on TBoT and posted a review. Go discuss and maybe we can get some new people turned on to these guys!

Top 10 of Joutsen era in chronological order:

House of Sleep
The Smoke
Weaving the Incantation
Silent Waters
The White Swan
Sampo
Sky Is Mine
From Earth I Rose
Battle for Light
Mermaid

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