The Over-saturation of Djent

[matt1722]

I will preface this by saying that I listen to a lot of different types of music, mainly within the Rock genre and involving sub genres.

I wanted to talk though about (In my opinion) the over saturation of the Djent genre/style into metal. Now there are certain bands that have made there careers or started there careers as Djent bands, I think Periphery could be classified as one of these bands but then there are the bands that developed that sound into there music I'll focus on two bands in particular based on the fact that I've just listened to albums by these bands lately. weather you've listened to or even heard them is not important because I'm sure some may be able to think of other examples that you have heard or listened to. These two bands are: (and this is where my creditability goes out the window.) The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza and Attack Attack! I might catch a lot of flack for that last one but I like the whole techno element.

All that aside these two bands are good examples of what I'm talking about. I'll Start with Attack Attack!, they're a Metalcore/Electronicore band but with they're most recent album have almost dropped that Electronic element in favor of a Djent sound I mean those elements are still there but they are lessened.

It's similar with The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza they're a Extreme Metal band with Grindcore elements but as they're albums went on so did the prevalence of the Djent sound

I know that these may not be the two best examples but basically what I'm trying to say is some of these bands that have a heavy sound have adopted more of that Djent style because it does sound heavy and it's popular. And in some cases it's being overused.

Now don't get my wrong I enjoy Djent on occasions I like bands like Periphery or Born of Osiris and of course the pioneers of the sound Meshuggah but sometimes it's almost a little frustrating to turn on a new album and a lot of the time hear that style thats quickly becoming a bit too familiar even when it wasn't in that bands sound when they first started.

I hope this makes at least a little sense. 

Thoughts?

[kirksnosehair]

crabcore 

[The King in Crimson]

I'm not a big fan of the djent style/sound so anytime there are more than one or two bands using it, I consider it over-saturated.

[Big Hath]

to be honest, I have no idea what djent implies or even means.  What would be considered the perfect example of a song employing this style?

[Zook]

The beginning of Raw Dog is DT doing djent. A repetitive downtuned palm muted riff style that never sounded good ever.

 

[Kotowboy]

A repetitive downtuned palm muted riff style that never sounded good ever.

Which you then slow down even further in the "BREAKDOWENZZ" 


  fuck i hate it so much.

I HAZ A 8 STRING AND I IZ NOT AFRAID TO USE THAT ONE STRING EXCLUZIVLEY   

[Dark Castle]

All I have read in this topic is ignorant hate of a genre they don't understand

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

All I have read in this topic is ignorant hate of a genre they don't understand

Yeah. I love people who pretend to know everything about things they know nothing about.

[Jaq]

All I have read in this topic is ignorant hate of a genre they don't understand

Pretty much. There's a lot more to djent than this, and honestly some damn good progressive metal in it. More "progressive" in fact than a lot of bands that are called that have been for years. Yeah, there's a lot of bands doing knock off Meshuggah riffs all over the place, but that's like saying prog metal sucks because there's dozen of Dream Theater clones.

[me7]

The only thing I'm over saturated by is "talk about djent" (I'm still not sure whether djent is actually real genre?). Let the fans enjoy it, there's plenty of other bands for people who don't.

[The King in Crimson]

What's ignorant about saying I don't like the sound of djent, as in the actual guitar sound? I listened to it, I don't like it and now I'm ignorant.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Well your post isn't as bad as, say...

A repetitive downtuned palm muted riff style that never sounded good ever.

Which you then slow down even further in the "BREAKDOWENZZ" 


  fuck i hate it so much.

I HAZ A 8 STRING AND I IZ NOT AFRAID TO USE THAT ONE STRING EXCLUZIVLEY   

Guy has probably heard like 2 songs in the genre and decided he's a total expert on it.

[Zook]

What's ignorant about saying I don't like the sound of djent, as in the actual guitar sound? I listened to it, I don't like it and now I'm ignorant.

This.

[Pols Voice]

Yeah, if you just don't like the sound of something, it's not like you have to force yourself to enjoy it. There's plenty of other music out there to focus on.

[matt1722]

This isn't exactly where I wanted the conversation to go. I didn't really want a debate on the genre/style. Like I said in the OP I do enjoy it from time to time. I was talking about some bands turning more and more to that sound where it wasn't in their music before and what you guys thought about that.

I don't want hate or anything about the style, and I honestly did spend some time with my wording to make sure it sounded good and respectful.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

This isn't exactly where I wanted the conversation to go. I didn't really want a debate on the genre/style. Like I said in the OP I do enjoy it from time to time. I was talking about some bands turning more and more to that sound where it wasn't in their music before and what you guys thought about that.

I don't want hate or anything about the style, and I honestly did spend some time with my wording to make sure it sounded good and respectful.

Not your fault. This happens from time to time.

[Zook]

Totally not my fault.

[Big Hath]

All I have read in this topic is ignorant hate of a genre they don't understand

Yeah. I love people who pretend to know everything about things they know nothing about.

I have pretended nothing, not even ignorance!   

There's a lot more to djent than this, and honestly some damn good progressive metal in it. More "progressive" in fact than a lot of bands that are called that have been for years.

so is there a more appropriate song I should hear that will give me the essence of "good" djent?

[Dark Castle]

Anyone who actually thinks that djent is a bunch of guys playing the same note over and over is seriously misguided.
Hath I'd check out Periphery in general. Born of Osiris put out quite the album back in 2011, The Discovery, it's well worth your time to check out. Look Right Penny is a pretty cool band as well.

[adace]

Anyone who actually thinks that djent is a bunch of guys playing the same note over and over is seriously misguided.
Hath I'd check out Periphery in general. Born of Osiris put out quite the album back in 2011, The Discovery, it's well worth your time to check out. Look Right Penny is a pretty cool band as well.

Yup, BoO are pretty awesome.

In general though, there are some pretty unique djent bands that stand out from the pack (Periphery, Textures, Vildhjarta, Uneven Structure, Tesseract etc.) but for the most part it is quite an over-saturated genre. That said, I'm not sure if it's any more or less over-saturated than any other metal genre.

[Ben_Jamin]

Dead For Denver, Tesseract, Tetrafusion, Destiny Potato....Those bands are pretty great.

If you really want to dwell and search for good djent bands go to Got-Djent.com it has a lot of good stuff there, some by bands, most by individuals. They have many ranges from Atmospheric to straight up Meshuggah ripoff.

[The King in Crimson]

Dead For Denver, Tesseract, Tetrafusion, Destiny Potato....Those bands are pretty great.

If you really want to dwell and search for good djent bands go to Got-Djent.com it has a lot of good stuff there, some by bands, most by individuals. They have many ranges from Atmospheric to straight up Meshuggah ripoff.

Destiny Potato?  Seriously?

Worst. Band name. Ever.

[Ben_Jamin]

Dead For Denver, Tesseract, Tetrafusion, Destiny Potato....Those bands are pretty great.

If you really want to dwell and search for good djent bands go to Got-Djent.com it has a lot of good stuff there, some by bands, most by individuals. They have many ranges from Atmospheric to straight up Meshuggah ripoff.

Destiny Potato?  Seriously?

Worst. Band name. Ever.

Serious.....they have David Maxim Micmic who posted his own stuff on gotdjent.

Female vocals that fit the sound.

[Kotowboy]

Well your post isn't as bad as, say...

A repetitive downtuned palm muted riff style that never sounded good ever.

Which you then slow down even further in the "BREAKDOWENZZ" 


  fuck i hate it so much.

I HAZ A 8 STRING AND I IZ NOT AFRAID TO USE THAT ONE STRING EXCLUZIVLEY   

Guy has probably heard like 2 songs in the genre and decided he's a total expert on it.

Poor butthurt baby.

[Kotowboy]

What's ignorant about saying I don't like the sound of djent, as in the actual guitar sound? I listened to it, I don't like it and now I'm ignorant.

[Dark Castle]

A repetitive downtuned palm muted riff style that never sounded good ever.

Which you then slow down even further in the "BREAKDOWENZZ" 


  fuck i hate it so much.

I HAZ A 8 STRING AND I IZ NOT AFRAID TO USE THAT ONE STRING EXCLUZIVLEY   

Because this isn't what Djent is, AT ALL.

[Zook]

Yeah, djent is a shitty guitar tone. Get it right.

[Dark Castle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pskj9sbffg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnaClnVnj_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy2MLw_JMJk
Don't worry mods, it's official links.
Totally just guys chugging a note along to a shitty guitar tone and breaking down.
Totally. Yep.
Look if you don't like Djent, whatever, that's fine as it's your opinion, and you're entitled to have it. But don't knock on it as if you know what it is when you clearly don't.

[MoraWintersoul]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pskj9sbffg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnaClnVnj_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy2MLw_JMJk
Don't worry mods, it's official links.
Totally just guys chugging a note along to a shitty guitar tone and breaking down.
Totally. Yep.
Look if you don't like Djent, whatever, that's fine as it's your opinion, and you're entitled to have it. But don't knock on it as if you know what it is when you clearly don't.

Vildhjarta kicks ass, man \m/

[bosk1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pskj9sbffg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnaClnVnj_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy2MLw_JMJk

I listened to it, I don't like it

Mystery solved.

[Zook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pskj9sbffg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnaClnVnj_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy2MLw_JMJk
Don't worry mods, it's official links.
Totally just guys chugging a note along to a shitty guitar tone and breaking down.
Totally. Yep.
Look if you don't like Djent, whatever, that's fine as it's your opinion, and you're entitled to have it. But don't knock on it as if you know what it is when you clearly don't.

While those three bands were certainly a little different than the ones I heard in a "top 10 djent bands" youtube video, they were still the basic, DJENT DJENTDJENTDJENT DJENT DJENT DJENT DJENTDJENTDJENTDJENTDJENTDJENT DJENT DJENT DJENT DJENT DJENT. And while watching the Born of Osiris video, it accured to me; you know how everyone shits on Disturbed for their generic riffs? BoO, and pretty much all djent bands are just doing sped up Disturbed riffs. I loved the beginning of that BoO song, but the rest of it didn't match at all.

[Ben_Jamin]

That style of the "djent" movement I used to enjoy but I agree that its becoming too much of the same thing. I prefer when they use it with electronics. Plus, Female vocals fit the style way way WAY better.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Well your post isn't as bad as, say...

A repetitive downtuned palm muted riff style that never sounded good ever.

Which you then slow down even further in the "BREAKDOWENZZ" 


  fuck i hate it so much.

I HAZ A 8 STRING AND I IZ NOT AFRAID TO USE THAT ONE STRING EXCLUZIVLEY   

Guy has probably heard like 2 songs in the genre and decided he's a total expert on it.

Poor butthurt baby.