Geoff Tate's "Operation: Mindcrime" (not Queensryche)

[wolfking]

I'm surprised anyone at all goes and sees this band.

[jjrock88]

I can't imagine anybody is itching to see "The Stranger" live.

[wolfking]

haha

[bl5150]

get a group together -get one of those bald head props,  stick a merkin on it , maybe even get into the full Bert outfits and go along.  It'll be a riot - until Geoff spits on you and crushes your phone 

[wolfking]

get a group together -get one of those bald head props,  stick a merkin on it , maybe even get into the full Bert outfits and go along.  It'll be a riot - until Geoff spits on you and crushes your phone 

No no, it would seem like that but he actually would have just thrown it back to you. 

[?]

I read that the recent concert Tate and co. played in Helsinki was attended by 120 people, and the capacity of that venue is 900 - ouch! On the other hand, I'm not shocked people don't feel like paying to see performances like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0h5MXtnSLI

I can't imagine anybody is itching to see "The Stranger" live.

Well, that is one of the three new songs that are getting played on this tour. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/operation-mindcrime/2015/nosturi-helsinki-finland-4bf54fe2.html

[jammindude]

By Grabthar's Hammer.....what a surprise.

[MirrorMask]

He played in Italy in a place I usually go to, didn't bother to go. Few comments I read were enthusiastic however. Guess he must have SOME fans left, or maybe people just went to hear a classic album and is not internet-oriented to the point of knowing everyhing Geoff's done to tarnish his reputation.

[wolfking]

Surely people would know the situation, you'd think.

[jjrock88]

Or copious amounts of booze

[wolfking]

lol.

Maybe some people are just curious, I don't know.  I just can't see why you'd spend money on his concert.

[bl5150]

Just doing some Christmas groceries..........




Yep.............slow day 

[wolfking]

haha, that's pretty good though.

[jjrock88]

I can assure you that if I was at the concert, it would be piss break time during  "The Stranger"

[wolfking]

You really hate that song don't you Jason?

[jingle.boy]

I can assure you that if I was at the concert, it would be piss break time during  "The Stranger"

If I was at the concert, I'd spend the entire time in the pisser.

[wolfking]

I'd be well on the piss before I even got there.

[jingle.boy]

I'd be well on the piss before I even got there.

*On* the piss... *in* the pisser... both are still preferable to listening to Tater.

[wolfking]

Being in the pisser would still be much more satisfying.

[Nick]

Surely people would know the situation, you'd think.

Anytime I go to a show I am often amazed by what some fans do not know. We really take it for granted sometimes how "in the know" every rabid internet savvy fan is, and how it often doesn't trickle down to the everyone.

[jjrock88]

So it's decided then, instead of the Geoff Tate concert, we are going to watch strippers instead!

[bl5150]

So it's decided then, instead of the Geoff Tate concert, we are going to watch strippers instead!

You would've really enjoyed the cabaret show 

[jjrock88]

So it's decided then, instead of the Geoff Tate concert, we are going to watch strippers instead!

You would've really enjoyed the cabaret show 

What a disaster

[wolfking]

Surely people would know the situation, you'd think.

Anytime I go to a show I am often amazed by what some fans do not know. We really take it for granted sometimes how "in the know" every rabid internet savvy fan is, and how it often doesn't trickle down to the everyone.

I guess, but seriously, it's not hard to be 'in the know.'  The internet tells you everything you need to know within seconds.

So it's decided then, instead of the Geoff Tate concert, we are going to watch strippers instead!

What he said.

[chknptpie]

So currently watching Tate... He says they're gonna play a few songs off a new album. (Waits for cheers that don't come) it's part of a trilogy (still no cheers). I said, it's part of a TRILOGY! (3 people cheer)   


Oh and we did not pay for this. They were giving tickets away like candy. My husband got 6 tickets for free. I would say there are ~400 people maybe.

[Nel]

Augh. That sounds so awkward. Any show (good or bad) where the audience is basically lifeless is just a horrible thing to be standing in the middle of. 

[wolfking]

So currently watching Tate... He says they're gonna play a few songs off a new album. (Waits for cheers that don't come) it's part of a trilogy (still no cheers). I said, it's part of a TRILOGY! (3 people cheer)   


Oh and we did not pay for this. They were giving tickets away like candy. My husband got 6 tickets for free. I would say there are ~400 people maybe.

Ugh, a trilogy.  Seriously Tate.  Get one decent album before thinking about three ffs.

[jjrock88]

A trilogy of shit stranger songs

[Enigmachine]

I think what Geoff needs to do is take some time off, evaluate his actions, dedicate some time to improving or adapting his voice, then write a normal album with a good collaborator and some thought put into it. It speaks volumes that his tickets are given away for free and he is playing to a very small fraction of what he used to play to.

[Kwyjibo]

Couldn't he just concentrate on his vineyard?

He can still milk the Mindcrime name for some years but will get ever decreasing sale figures and attendances until the well runs dry. He's constantly going down if he doesn't completely change things, and I don't think he's capable of any drastic changes. Sadly, he's too delusional about himself nowadays.

[Enigmachine]

Couldn't he just concentrate on his vineyard?

He can still milk the Mindcrime name for some years but will get ever decreasing sale figures and attendances until the well runs dry. He's constantly going down if he doesn't completely change things, and I don't think he's capable of any drastic changes. Sadly, he's too delusional about himself nowadays.

True, it doesn't seem like he realises his career trajectory at this point. It's fine if some people like his stuff, but this has gone beyond the point where it's him being a polarising figure. He's become a laughing stock of the Prog and Metal communities and he doesn't realise that he is paying the price for it in concert attendance, album sales, album reception (although The Key seems to be a step in the right direction in that regard) etc.

[Ben_Jamin]

Going to see him tonight with my uncle, I'm only going because he wanted to. I'd rather see 10 years tonight.

I don't mind Re-inventing The Future. Let's see how it goes, will report back tonight on the crowd size,  how he does, and all that fun stuff.

[chknptpie]

Photo from the concert on Tuesday:


That same photo over exposed to show the crowd. We were at the back. The area to our right was basically open dance floor.

[lordnafaryus]

I'm really pleased I got to see Queensryche perform both 'Mindcrime' albums in Bristol a few years ago (2008 I think), they sounded great and I was really into them at the time, so I'll never forget that.

However, I saw them again in Newport in 2011 when they were supporting Judas Priest, they only played a 4-song set but they looked and sounded like they really couldn't give a shit by that point  .... That wasn't too long before they parted ways... Priest on the other hand were incredible!

I'm not sure I'd see either version of the band at this point, but based on the version of 'Take hold of the flame' posted earlier I'd probably stick with Queesryche offical...

[Mebert78]

Wow, there's more people in the photo than I would've expected.  He's playing a pretty big venue on Long Island in a few weeks, and I can't imagine it being anywhere close to full.  The venue (The Paramount) is even promoting the event as "Geoff Tate of Queensryche" on Facebook, which I objected to but they still didn't change it.  I'm considering going just out of curiosity, but I probably won't.