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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #175 on: March 14, 2013, 02:45:24 PM »
Nice, great choices.
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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #176 on: March 14, 2013, 03:16:22 PM »
2. Learning To Live (Images And Words)
Images is based on these "pillars", as I call them, these big, bold, "statement" songs - Metropolis, Take The Time, Learning To Live; they seem to serve as mini-manifestos of Dream Theater music. TTT is incredibly clever and catches you by surprise, if it were a person, it would be the semi-smug intellectual who keeps flaunting his superiority but you adore him for his wit. Metropolis is indeed frighteningly majestic and impressive. But Learning To Live wins my heart on the account that it makes the effort to speak to it. It's rare that a song just comes alive, reaches out to you to pat you on the shoulder and tell you it's okay.

An almost desperate plea, in a story of trial and overcoming adversity, but spoken with such calmness, and you know immediately the lyrics are by John Myung. You could say nothing particularly interesting goes on until the F#, and you would be partially right, but you're both coming out of Images and entering the couple of greatest minutes of music ever played, a clever cooldown/buildup (seriously how cool is that?!) is in order.

The ending sequence of F#/guitar solo/keyboard solo/unison/WFS piano break and exploration of the theme/guitar solo/more WFSing/keyboard solo/more guitarkeyboardextravaganza/last amazing stanza/THAT OUTRO just turns my heart into a, a, a galaxy. Like holy shit it's embedded in my brain but I had to play it again because I cannot think of it and not play it, it just doesn't happen, shouldn't happen.

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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #177 on: March 14, 2013, 03:18:17 PM »
LTL  :heart

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« Reply #178 on: March 14, 2013, 03:40:09 PM »
Well, a writeup suiting the magnificence of the song. :)
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« Reply #179 on: March 14, 2013, 03:43:30 PM »
I wonder what #1 could be...
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« Reply #180 on: March 14, 2013, 03:46:35 PM »
I wonder what #1 could be...
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« Reply #181 on: March 14, 2013, 03:58:05 PM »
This is the best writeup on Learning to live I ever read.  :biggrin:

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« Reply #182 on: March 14, 2013, 04:03:37 PM »
This is the best writeup on Learning to live I ever read.  :biggrin:
I'm kind of running on 50% of my fangirliness here. But that's just a big compliment, I have to send you the biggest of thank you's. :heart

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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #184 on: March 14, 2013, 05:23:51 PM »
Lovely write up! Should be number one though  :P

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« Reply #185 on: March 14, 2013, 06:05:12 PM »
Good write-up yo, but you scored the song too high :biggrin:
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #186 on: March 14, 2013, 06:29:09 PM »
I wonder what #1 could be...

I know.  It's so bloody difficult to figure out.

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Re: Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #187 on: March 14, 2013, 07:12:05 PM »
what is it? I'm confused
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #188 on: March 14, 2013, 07:21:54 PM »
Just think about it some, dude - you'll get it.

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« Reply #189 on: March 14, 2013, 07:24:03 PM »
Forgot the green text



I'm pretty damned sure I know this. It's probably the same as mine... (Well... it may not be my numbah one... but top 5)
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #190 on: March 14, 2013, 07:26:13 PM »
It wouldn't get anywhere close to mine.

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« Reply #191 on: March 14, 2013, 07:36:00 PM »
#4 in mine
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #192 on: March 14, 2013, 07:51:50 PM »
It wouldn't get anywhere close to mine.


That's because you suck.
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #194 on: March 14, 2013, 09:56:39 PM »
Gave up on hoping for a surprise. Now I'm pretty sure your number 1 is BMU BMD.

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« Reply #195 on: March 14, 2013, 10:56:05 PM »
 :lol

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« Reply #196 on: March 14, 2013, 10:57:29 PM »
Can't go wrong with LtL.  :tup

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« Reply #197 on: March 14, 2013, 11:51:38 PM »
Zydar is my new hero.  I just laughed so hard I nearly shat.

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« Reply #198 on: March 15, 2013, 02:47:16 AM »
Zydar, you have perfect opinions.

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Zydar, you have perfect opinions.

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« Reply #200 on: March 15, 2013, 07:13:14 AM »
For me it was freaking hard to write about LTL and it's challenging to say anything that hasn't been said about it yet, but you nailed it! :tup Can't wait to see your writeup for that one song ;)

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« Reply #201 on: March 15, 2013, 07:42:54 PM »
That was a magnificent write-up for LTL. :lol

I agree, once you get into the section that builds into the F#, and from then on out, the song is HOLYFUCKAWESOMEYESSAKJHDK456!@#JAHEJHA :heart and such forth, but before that it's only great. Which, great is great (or awesome, should I choose to describe an adjective with an adjective other than itself), but at least it gets better gradually, and that makes the song what it is. At least it doesn't start awesome and get not as awesome.

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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #202 on: March 16, 2013, 03:52:07 AM »
LTL is amazing.  You have it #2, which is certainly worthy (I have it #1).
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« Reply #203 on: March 16, 2013, 03:53:59 AM »
I listen to the song daily, and it never cease to amaze me. It's seriously a miracle song. I wonder what the band thinks of it, or at least the original+james members, who were involved in its creation.
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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. feeling my heart pull west
« Reply #204 on: March 16, 2013, 07:23:24 AM »
Time for the very obvious number 1:

1. Space-Dye Vest (Awake)
2009: Awake is weird as fuck, Space-Dye Vest makes me feel uneasy
2010: Awake is a very good album, Space-Dye Vest is a gorgeous song but is it ever depressing or what.
2011: Awake is my favorite Dream Theater album. Space-Dye Vest is beautiful. I'm too scared to look up what's it really about, although I have many theories, and I am too scared to look up Kevin's post-DT work so I don't get disappointed.

In the beginning of 2012 (and the end of 2011 really) some pretty depressing and, at the time, quite unbearable things were going on. I needed something for comfort and company, and I reconnected to Dream Theater, and especially to this song, listening to it for fifty times in a row sometimes when I didn't feel like doing anything else (or felt like doing too many bad things). It is quite full of pathos, and tragedy, and even hints of subdued rage, and it was comforting to be reminded you're allowed to feel that way. Some people look down on others expressing they feel that way, but being naturally a bit naive, open, emphatic, and finding open displays of strong emotion quite brave, I connected to it and it comforted me a lot.

I had several friends tell me, in regards to the lyrics of the song, that it's a quite silly song to fall for - "what, a guy fell for a girl pictured in a magazine, how fucking lame" - and I always tried to tell them that's it's really not all about that, it's about breaking up with the Past (or a past person, if you will), but even more about this now unrequited love which finds its home in an object which "stays on the page", and questioning where to go from Here in general. Secretly, I thought that maybe their, simpler explanation was the true one, and that I was projecting a lot of my own feeling into it, until I ran into a quote which I'll share because I am the quoteperson (duh):

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I was looking through a clothing catalog and saw a picture of a girl modeling this piece of clothing called a space-dye vest. And, so, I fell in love with her [laughs] for some strange reason and so the minute I did that, the minute I was just like obsessed with this person, I was like, 'why am I doing that?' and I noticed that I was doing it a lot lately. And I think the prime reason that I was doing that, and this is what I figured out at the time, was that I had just come out of a relationship where I'd gotten dumped, basically, and so I think the situation was that I wasn't finished giving all that I was ready to give, so I was just, like, throwing it around, you know, just aiming it in different directions. It was a total case of projection. And this song is just trying to sort it out and just kind of admitting that I'm just kind of lost. So it's kind of a dark song. It was very cathartic though.

The MAIN reason, however, that SDV is my favorite song, is (I'll put it quite vaguely because it's not something that is really clear to me most of the time, and when it becomes clear, I feel inept to find the right words to share it with everyone) that the song pretty much sounds like it's the end of the world. But we know it wasn't, that there is no one in the world who was forever closed after declaring they'd never be open again, that life goes on and so do the people in it. I find that thought quite comforting.

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« Reply #205 on: March 16, 2013, 07:28:43 AM »
:tup

Great write-up, and a great list as well. :heart
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« Reply #206 on: March 16, 2013, 07:31:38 AM »
Great write ups. This was a fun list to follow.

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« Reply #207 on: March 16, 2013, 07:37:53 AM »
Great write ups. This was a fun list to follow.
I'm finally done, it took me, like, four weeks? :lol thank you, and thanks to everyone who followed it. :heart

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« Reply #208 on: March 16, 2013, 07:39:00 AM »
I knew most of this and more already, but it felt so good reading it. Thank you, Milena. :)
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« Reply #209 on: March 16, 2013, 07:50:33 AM »
1. Space-Dye Vest (Awake)
:hug: :hifive:

SDV didn't become my favorite until last year, either, although I didn't have to go through a depressive period in my life. I guess it was just my ever-changing tastes, the suitable length of the song (ACOS is amazing, but as I've said, I don't listen to it in full very often) and having just discovered Chroma Key. I had loved it before already, but the right things happened in the right time for me, and the rest is history.

Anyway, great writeups and great list overall - you were right when you said your top is similar to mine! :) Even most of the songs that appeared on your list but not mine were good picks.