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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #140 on: March 10, 2013, 04:57:50 AM »
Just thinking about hearing/seeing BAI live is giving me MAJOR goosebumps. :)
I really hope they keep it for next tour.
I hope so too.
Me too. It could be a great encore. At least better than Pull Me Under.  :tdwn

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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. prog ladyboners
« Reply #141 on: March 10, 2013, 05:13:22 AM »
I've never seen DT live so I wouldn't mind if they kept BAI in the setlist, either.
BAI is marvelous.
This. I wouldn't rank HK that high, but it definitely is a top 3 DT instrumental and the ending is simply epic :hefdaddy
For me HK is top 2 ;)
It might be top 2 for me as well, but I can't decide whether I like it better than Erotomania; Overture 1928 is close to the top too. However, I'm in 100% agreement with you about the best instrumental! ;)

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« Reply #142 on: March 10, 2013, 06:10:56 AM »
Breaking all illusions is amazing. If they decide to keep one ADTOE song for the next tour, I hope Breaking all illusions will be it. Fingers crossed.  :smiley:

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« Reply #143 on: March 11, 2013, 09:07:09 AM »
7.   Eve
What can I say? I am one of those kids on DTF who appreciate Eve a lot for what it is. It's not the "rare" factor honestly - I'd only rate a couple of unreleased tracks higher than what ended up on the albums. It's just about my very favorite group musicians showing off their atmosphere-creation skills.

I've always said it sounds like a really early Chroma Key demo melded together with an undeveloped jam of JP's. The best feature of it is definitely the way that short drum spotlight makes your heart skip a beat, and the sudden dark ending absolutely takes my breath away. It feels like someone dropped a weight on my stomach while I was peacefully stargazing, the apprehension, the "this-will-not-end-well" of those two seconds, they just kill me. They couldn't resist suggesting there lay a seed of discord in the faerylike purity of whatever it was they wanted to represent in the song, but then there's a clean, conclusive and warm, almost unnoticeable piano note and wintery flourishes on the keys, and the sound of drums settling down behind it that make everything seem right again. Like it was a human being (well, it is named after the first woman, so I might be on to something here) with its imperfections that just highlight its beauty.

I'm not sure all of it is on purpose, nor that it's supposed to be "read" that way but that's the fun of it, right?
And the version with the samples guides me home.

6.   Wait For Sleep (Images And Words)
"She stares at the ceiling
And tries not to think
And pictures the chains
She's been trying to link again
But the feeling is gone

And water can't cover her memory,
And ashes can't answer her pain!
God, give me the power to take breath from a breeze
And call life from a cold metal frame..."


5.   Blind Faith (Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence)
We've been talking a lot about this song as well, so there's just two things left for me to say (again)
1) One of the rare DT sections the time of whose exact position in the song I know by heart is the piano break at 6:12. As I've said a million times before, SDOIT is JR's party and I love hanging out at that party, eating ALL the stardust-sprinkled cookies and drinking all the booze and kissing all the women. And it doesn't get any better than Blind Faith.

2) The lyrics are JLB's second finest work and they do an excellent work of expressing the complexity of the religious views of a man who's had about 40 years to think about them, and with all the clarity, eloquence and engaging narrative ability that is the mark of everything he says.

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« Reply #144 on: March 11, 2013, 09:07:53 AM »
All fantastic songs  :tup

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« Reply #145 on: March 11, 2013, 09:19:52 AM »
Eve! :heart

The other two are amazing as well.
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« Reply #146 on: March 11, 2013, 10:09:22 AM »
WFS  :heart
BF  :heart :heart

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« Reply #147 on: March 11, 2013, 10:13:12 AM »
Breaking All Illusions :hefdaddy
Wait For Sleep :heart
Blind Faith  :-X
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« Reply #148 on: March 11, 2013, 10:27:31 AM »
I've never see so many hearts on this board :lol

The songs :hearts:
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« Reply #149 on: March 11, 2013, 10:29:59 AM »
7.   Eve

6.   Wait For Sleep (Images And Words)

5.   Blind Faith (Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence)

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« Reply #150 on: March 11, 2013, 10:33:09 AM »
I've never see so many hearts on this board :lol

The songs :hearts
They all got my disease.

7.   Eve

6.   Wait For Sleep (Images And Words)

5.   Blind Faith (Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence)


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« Reply #151 on: March 11, 2013, 10:33:45 AM »
Hell's Kitchen, Wait for Sleep and Blind Faith, way to go  :hefdaddy.

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« Reply #152 on: March 11, 2013, 10:42:46 AM »
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« Reply #153 on: March 11, 2013, 02:59:49 PM »


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« Reply #154 on: March 12, 2013, 08:42:37 AM »
Wait for sleep  :tup

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« Reply #155 on: March 12, 2013, 09:48:15 AM »
Just thinking about hearing/seeing BAI live is giving me MAJOR goosebumps. :)
I really hope they keep it for next tour.
I hope so too.
Me too. It could be a great encore. At least better than Pull Me Under.  :tdwn
Indeed. Although there are always a couple of hundred people who come just to hear that song.


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Re: MoraWintersoul's top 50 DT songs v. nearing the end
« Reply #156 on: March 13, 2013, 03:21:23 PM »
4. A Change Of Seasons
I've only become aware of the need to listen to ACOS after I've finished with all the then-available full studio albums, which means early 2010. Dream Theater had an amazing effect on the way I perceive and seek out music, but if I had to pinpoint one song that marked the biggest shift in the way I think, it would be the one that "sealed the deal", the last.

Me and Dream Theater, after a shy period where I eyed them for awhile, too afraid to seek further contact, entered a whirlwind romance near the beginning of 2009, got engaged quickly, and were now together. After a painful time period after the split until the end of 2011, our happy reunion was celebrated by listening to songs that reminded me of all the good things Mike Portnoy left Dream Theater fans with, besides phenomenal drumming (present in the song) and communication (and who knows whether they would have had this tune finally recorded if there weren't for fans writing to the band and band response?), and that is a strong sense of direction and his good lyrics. How do you write lyrics such as these so young? There's nostalgia, love, loss and pain, defiance, acceptance, vision, all in the same song.

3. Surrounded (Images and Words)
As a Queen fan, this song hit me really hard with its happy, major sound, prominent keyboards, perfectly timed solo and soaring vocals. It also kept on hitting me harder and harder each time I listened to it. You know that old, worn out sentence, that there's nothing more to add? Sure, there always is more to add. But there are sometimes simple songs so beautiful where even bands like Dream Theater don't want to add anything more to them.

It would be pretty interesting to draw a parallel between 6:00 and Surrounded, as they both started out as Kevin's babies and feature lyrics by him, moreover that they both deal with some sort of awakening. It's interesting to see how much his approach to Dream Theater has changed in the meantime, from music, in the choice of synth sounds, to lyrics. Both scenes of the physical awakening are equally "violent" to the senses - set sirens wake up tired eyes, memories rush into the protagonist's head/the siren kicks him from a dream and can't be shaken off. The theme of 6:00 is more down to earth, and Surrounded is very Dream Theater, with an obscure storyline and ending, with dramatic images of stained glass shattering, shadows, stars, blinding light and a mystical "her"-entity dancing and whispering words to clear the protagonist's mind. It is also more beautiful in the traditional sense of the word.

In both songs, the spiritual awakening is harder to achieve than the physical one, but it seems that, for that too, you need a "siren" to wake you up, that you must seek it out, and that it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye. But you must answer the call while you can still hear it from an ivory tower. You must answer it while it's loud and clear.
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« Reply #157 on: March 13, 2013, 03:23:44 PM »
Two fantastic songs. I wouldn't place Surrounded that high though. Once again, great writeups!

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« Reply #158 on: March 13, 2013, 03:24:19 PM »
Two amazing songs. Another World is and will probably forever be my single favourite song section that DT have ever written. DAT SOLO.
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« Reply #159 on: March 13, 2013, 03:26:00 PM »
Another World is and will probably forever be my single favourite song section that DT have ever written. DAT SOLO.
So true. Those are also some of James' best vocals ever.

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« Reply #160 on: March 13, 2013, 03:30:25 PM »
Another World is and will probably forever be my single favourite song section that DT have ever written. DAT SOLO.
So true. Those are also some of James' best vocals ever.
I once had this big moment with Another World where I was listening to ACOS on my return from a place and it started snowing as soon as the section started. It was the most amazing thing ever.

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« Reply #161 on: March 13, 2013, 05:19:41 PM »
4. A Change Of Seasons
Me and Dream Theater, after a shy period where I eyed them for awhile, too afraid to seek further contact, entered a whirlwind romance near the beginning of 2009, got engaged quickly, and were now together. After a painful time period after the split until the end of 2011, our happy reunion was celebrated by listening to songs that reminded me of all the good things Mike Portnoy left Dream Theater fans with, besides phenomenal drumming (present in the song) and communication (and who knows whether they would have had this tune finally recorded if there weren't for fans writing to the band and band response?), and that is a strong sense of direction and his good lyrics. How do you write lyrics such as these so young? There's nostalgia, love, loss and pain, defiance, acceptance, vision, all in the same song.

Your version of an eat my ass and balls-like nugget?  :)

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« Reply #162 on: March 13, 2013, 06:09:27 PM »
4. A Change Of Seasons
Me and Dream Theater, after a shy period where I eyed them for awhile, too afraid to seek further contact, entered a whirlwind romance near the beginning of 2009, got engaged quickly, and were now together. After a painful time period after the split until the end of 2011, our happy reunion was celebrated by listening to songs that reminded me of all the good things Mike Portnoy left Dream Theater fans with, besides phenomenal drumming (present in the song) and communication (and who knows whether they would have had this tune finally recorded if there weren't for fans writing to the band and band response?), and that is a strong sense of direction and his good lyrics. How do you write lyrics such as these so young? There's nostalgia, love, loss and pain, defiance, acceptance, vision, all in the same song.

Your version of an eat my ass and balls-like nugget?  :)
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« Reply #163 on: March 13, 2013, 06:13:28 PM »
And now the serious list:

Surrounded
Wait for Sleep
Learning to Live
A Change of Seasons
Eve
Space-Dye Vest
Hell's Kitchen
Stream of Consciousness Blind Faith
Breaking All Illusions

That leaves #2 for Learning to Live and #1 for Space-Dye Vest.

8 out of 9 ain't bad.

Also, Surrounded at #3 is :heart :heart :heart & :tup

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« Reply #164 on: March 13, 2013, 06:17:34 PM »
Yeah, I am really surprised at how you, Tom and Ville guessed my top 10 so accurately. I guess you guys know my taste that good somehow (as exemplified by Tom in my song roulette as well lol).

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« Reply #165 on: March 13, 2013, 06:20:00 PM »
Holy shit, he had 9 out of 9.








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« Reply #166 on: March 13, 2013, 09:56:30 PM »
Surrounded  :heart

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« Reply #167 on: March 13, 2013, 11:47:00 PM »
Eve!  :heart Can't go wrong with ACoS either. Wait for Sleep and Surrounded are interesting choices, but nice to see them high.

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« Reply #168 on: March 14, 2013, 12:50:37 AM »
Hmm... My guesses weren't totally off! :biggrin: Well, my top wasn't the hardest to predict either :-X

I haven't actually noticed the similarity between the lyrics of 6:00 and Surrounded before :o

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« Reply #169 on: March 14, 2013, 04:51:58 AM »
Just catching up on your list mora, this is interesting!

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« Reply #170 on: March 14, 2013, 05:25:44 AM »
I haven't actually noticed the similarity between the lyrics of 6:00 and Surrounded before :o
They have a similar theme and there's some similar stuff going on in both songs, and my overanalyzing ass took it to the next level. I obviously like Surrounded more than 6:00, but I think that the Kevin that is in Chroma Key and OSI is the more interesting musician than the Kevin that was in earlier Dream Theater, and the Kevin that was involved in Awake is where he came from.

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« Reply #171 on: March 14, 2013, 05:27:18 AM »
Surrounded :heart

It's in my Top 5 too.
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« Reply #172 on: March 14, 2013, 05:41:56 AM »
I haven't actually noticed the similarity between the lyrics of 6:00 and Surrounded before :o
They have a similar theme and there's some similar stuff going on in both songs, and my overanalyzing ass took it to the next level. I obviously like Surrounded more than 6:00, but I think that the Kevin that is in Chroma Key and OSI is the more interesting musician than the Kevin that was in earlier Dream Theater, and the Kevin that was involved in Awake is where he came from.
Overanalyzing  :heart

But yeah, this similarity reminds me of the Bigger Wave/Invisible Men connection, except that 6:00 and Surrounded aren't musically similar at all.

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« Reply #173 on: March 14, 2013, 06:02:02 AM »
Super list so far, had to read through it all now. Eve as highly placed as it deserves to be.

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« Reply #174 on: March 14, 2013, 08:40:53 AM »
Ooh, A Change Of Seasons is exactly where I'd put it as well.  :tup