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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2013, 05:06:20 PM »
Social:  Yeah, a lot of people aren't blown away by this, but that doesn't make it any less important when considering the market as a whole.  One of the (many) reasons people bought the 360 over the PS3 was because all their friends had it.  They could chat while playing, and interact with each other much more easily than trying to pair a bluetooth headset to the PS3.  For the PS4 to embrace that aspect will make the console that much more attractive.

This is a good point and something I neglected to mention.

I have no console allegiance whatsoever; growing up in the Nintendo dominated era those were the systems I got (usually quite some time after they were released), and played Sega and Sony systems at friends' houses.  In fact I hate Microsoft the most of all, and yet I am now a discerning consumer rather than an impulsive kid, and I own a 360 rather than a PS3.  And you nailed the exact reason I bought it: I had lots of friends who had one and lived across the country or state, and it allowed me to be able to connect and play while chatting with them once in awhile.  Whereas relatively fewer people I knew had a PS3, and I read some questionable things about its online interface at the time.

Now then, as is par for the course with Microsoft products, I've gone through three of them since buying the initial one about 5-6 years ago and there have been plenty of times I've cursed Sony's name for their initial missteps with the PS3 that indirectly caused the circumstances in which I voluntarily shelled out for this piece of shit.

So yes, it's imperative that Sony makes it intuitive and easier to play with friends, although I don't think that necessitates an instant share button, Facebook linking, etc. at baseline.  But we'll see; maybe those features will end up being well integrated and widely used after all.

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« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2013, 05:46:49 PM »
This is the first time I feel really ambivalent about a new console cycle. Everything about the PS4 looks very cool, but I don't really know, aside from some exclusives, what I would want to do with it that I couldn't do on my 1.5 year old PC.

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« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2013, 08:02:04 PM »
Didn't get to watch any of the streams or videos of the PS4 yet, but reading through this thread while I'm at work has made me pretty interested.

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« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2013, 08:54:48 PM »
This is the first time I feel really ambivalent about a new console cycle. Everything about the PS4 looks very cool, but I don't really know, aside from some exclusives, what I would want to do with it that I couldn't do on my 1.5 year old PC.

I'm feeling the same way. I never bought a PS3, so all the controversial stuff doesn't really effect me, but I don't really know if I want it. The WiiU has the advantage of the usual Ninty exclusives, but it also feels like the WiiU is what we should have seen in 2006 and I'm not really compelled to purchase it right now. And if the horrid rumors about the XBox 720 ring true, I am not stepping foot on that sinking ship.  :lol

I have half a mind to just continue to save up for a desktop and use Steam. For the first time, I don't really feel "tied" to Nintendo anymore. A lot of Wii titles disappointed me, so yeah.

I still may get a WiiU down the road, though. And a PS4 once we hear more about it.
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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2013, 04:40:56 AM »
What horrid rumors about the new Xbox?

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« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2013, 05:55:11 PM »
What horrid rumors about the new Xbox?

You know, the blocking used games, the must-always-be-online, etc.
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« Reply #111 on: February 25, 2013, 06:10:27 PM »
What horrid rumors about the new Xbox?

You know, the blocking used games, the must-always-be-online, etc.
Sony filed a patent for blocking used games as well dude

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« Reply #112 on: February 25, 2013, 06:12:16 PM »
So games will be registered to a particular system then?

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« Reply #113 on: February 25, 2013, 06:17:59 PM »
What horrid rumors about the new Xbox?

You know, the blocking used games, the must-always-be-online, etc.
Sony filed a patent for blocking used games as well dude

Yeah, but they've already stated it won't be used for PS4. So it's not really as big an issue now. Probably start phasing that in with PS5...
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« Reply #114 on: February 25, 2013, 06:19:12 PM »
So why are you assuming Microsoft will? And even if its not for the ps4 it's still happening so that's a lane argument

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« Reply #115 on: February 25, 2013, 06:21:56 PM »
So why are you assuming Microsoft will? And even if its not for the ps4 it's still happening so that's a lane argument

I didn't assume. I even used the word "rumor". I'm saying "if" they turn out to be true.
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« Reply #116 on: February 25, 2013, 06:55:10 PM »
Sony and Microsoft would never implement a no used games system.  Yes, they filed patents, but companies file patents all the time regardless of whether they're used (no pun intended).

Even though GameStop's used sales hurt the bottom line, it's not nearly as bad as it would hurt if all retail game stores were put out of business.  The amount of marketing and exposure that these game stores provide is too much to throw away.

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« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2013, 07:00:24 PM »
Sony and Microsoft would never implement a no used games system.  Yes, they filed patents, but companies file patents all the time regardless of whether they're used (no pun intended).

Even though GameStop's used sales hurt the bottom line, it's not nearly as bad as it would hurt if all retail game stores were put out of business.  The amount of marketing and exposure that these game stores provide is too much to throw away.

Very true. And in this economy? Seriously, if the no-used-game policy is used (which I highly doubt anyway), I bet the most of us would be VERY choosy and careful in choosing the "right" games to buy, and that will definitely hurt game makers' bottom line even more. In that case, I think I might buy no more than 2 to 3 games a year only, knowing a "wrong" purchase is no different from flushing my money away.
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« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2013, 07:05:42 PM »
And for those of us who tend to gamble a bit more on a new game, those same stores provide a place to recoup up to 50% of the cost.

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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #119 on: February 25, 2013, 07:32:54 PM »
I have bought many sequel games new because I was introduced to their used first installments.

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« Reply #120 on: March 25, 2013, 10:03:04 PM »
Man, they are really hammering indie support home. 

I'm encouraged though, since they're demonstrating that they aren't just talking about support, but are showcasing the titles and options that will be available.

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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #122 on: June 08, 2013, 02:38:29 AM »
Lost all interest in gaming when the PS2 cycle was done with.


The only reason i'd have a PS3 is to use the BR player and to be able to download FFVII & IX and that's about it.

I used to be a really hardcore gamer from the NES up until and including the PS2 - now I just don't have any interest at all.

I don't even own a PS2 anymore. I have a GameCube so i can play Zelda games on it & that's all.

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« Reply #123 on: June 08, 2013, 09:23:35 AM »
Lost all interest in gaming when the PS2 cycle was done with.


The only reason i'd have a PS3 is to use the BR player and to be able to download FFVII & IX and that's about it.

I used to be a really hardcore gamer from the NES up until and including the PS2 - now I just don't have any interest at all.

I don't even own a PS2 anymore. I have a GameCube so i can play Zelda games on it & that's all.

I'm thr same exact way. I used to be a hardcore gamer, played mario when I was 3. I also got a ps3 not too long ago for bluray and to play with friends online, also I downloaded Chrono Trigger, but I mainly use it to watch dvds that are scratched to hell.

I still own a ps2, so I can just go to nobles and buy used if I want to play older ps games, a Sega Genesis that I still play. I just wish my bro didn't demolish my Snes.

Nothing about these systems interest me at all, don't care about social features,  don't care about motion control, just give me a good game that will give me fun.
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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #124 on: June 08, 2013, 11:17:22 AM »
There's nothing like Final Fantasy 7 anymore or BEyond Good and Evil.

It's all about realism now and games that take 6 hours to finish.

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« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2013, 11:26:06 AM »
There's nothing like Final Fantasy 7 anymore or BEyond Good and Evil.

It's all about realism now and games that take 6 hours to finish.

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Final Fantasy XIII and its sequels? Skyrim? Borderlands 2? Deus Ex: HR?

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« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2013, 11:29:14 AM »
Borderlands was good but wasn't impressed with the second one and Final Fantasy has been crap since X onwards.

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« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2013, 11:33:13 AM »
I thought we were talking about the style (realism, length, etc) rather than quality, which is purely subjective.

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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2013, 11:39:42 AM »
There's nothing like Final Fantasy 7 anymore or BEyond Good and Evil.

It's all about realism now and games that take 6 hours to finish.

 :tdwn

That's my biggest problem with the gaming industry these days. I would pay $100 for a game like Skyrim if it means getting hundreds of hours of gameplay. I refuse to drop $60 on a Call of Duty that I can finish in the first night.

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« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2013, 12:01:15 PM »
Then buy Skyrim and don't buy COD. That's exactly what I do. I don't see what the "problem" is - there are so many games being made, with so much variety, there are still plenty of games to suit your tastes.

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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2013, 12:02:48 PM »
There's nothing like Final Fantasy 7 anymore or BEyond Good and Evil.

It's all about realism now and games that take 6 hours to finish.

 :tdwn

That's my biggest problem with the gaming industry these days. I would pay $100 for a game like Skyrim if it means getting hundreds of hours of gameplay. I refuse to drop $60 on a Call of Duty that I can finish in the first night.

Except nowadays COD is built for online play first, single player campaign as a way, way distant second.

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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #131 on: June 08, 2013, 12:16:29 PM »
Then buy Skyrim and don't buy COD. That's exactly what I do. I don't see what the "problem" is - there are so many games being made, with so much variety, there are still plenty of games to suit your tastes.

That's exactly what I do  :lol

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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2013, 06:15:34 PM »
Does this conference start at 8:30 or 9:00 (ET)? I'm reading different things. Ironically, this is streaming like shit on my PS3.

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« Reply #133 on: June 10, 2013, 06:23:56 PM »
Does this conference start at 8:30 or 9:00 (ET)? I'm reading different things. Ironically, this is streaming like shit on my PS3.

This has been accurate all day.

https://www.e3countdown.com/

Sony starts at 6PM.  A lot of sites give an earlier time to get you in for their pre-show.

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Re: The Official Playstation 4 Thread.
« Reply #134 on: June 10, 2013, 06:54:55 PM »
5 minutes!!

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« Reply #135 on: June 10, 2013, 07:23:54 PM »
If SONY want to win - all they have to do is say

" Shot for shot HD Final Fantasy 7 remake. "


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« Reply #136 on: June 10, 2013, 07:31:45 PM »
If SONY want to win - all they have to do is say

" Shot for shot HD Final Fantasy 7 remake. "

And "starting at $399"


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« Reply #137 on: June 10, 2013, 07:33:35 PM »
If they want to win all they have to do is say "we don't have any restrictions"

BOOM it's over.

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« Reply #138 on: June 10, 2013, 07:39:28 PM »
If they want to win all they have to do is say "we don't have any restrictions"

BOOM it's over.


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« Reply #139 on: June 10, 2013, 07:40:06 PM »
SONY Conference.

Just that slogan on screen.

" FINAL FANTASY 7 HD  REMAKE. NO CONSOLE RESTRICTIONS. £399. "

End of conference.