DREAM THEATER RELEASES TRAILER FOR NEW DVD, BLU-RAY, CD

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Dream Team

Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2013, 04:20:55 AM
In studio performance of the entire album would be incredible.

I've wanted this since Metallica did it with St Anger.

cyberdrummer


Zydar

Quote from: Dream Team on April 25, 2013, 05:57:28 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2013, 04:20:55 AM
In studio performance of the entire album would be incredible.

I've wanted this since Metallica did it with St Anger.

I've never actually heard about this "in studio performance of entire album" thing before. What other bands have done this?

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: Zydar on April 25, 2013, 05:59:23 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on April 25, 2013, 05:57:28 AM
Quote from: wolfking on April 25, 2013, 04:20:55 AM
In studio performance of the entire album would be incredible.

I've wanted this since Metallica did it with St Anger.

I've never actually heard about this "in studio performance of entire album" thing before. What other bands have done this?
Wintersun, last year, and it came as a bonus DVD to the album. They left out an interlude or two, and the album itself is a shortie (I think it's not over 45 minutes) but they did it.

I don't expect it to be done here though.

MrBoom_shack-a-lack


?

I was expecting there to be some extra on the limited edition, so a bonus DVD with a making-of doc and/or a "live in the studio" thing is quite likely.

cyberdrummer


me7

I'm especially fond of Metallica's St. Anger studio performance. It sounds a lot better than the overproduced CD version IMO. The songwriting is still below par, but at least the band sounds natural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_c1ZzyqgU

Zydar


Perpetual Change

Yeah, I love live studio takes. Certain bands should be doing that, anyway. I'm not trying to sound like a snob or anything but I really think live studio takes have a lot more character than recordings which have been sterilized and recorded piece by piece. Especially bands like DT, who don't really bother with doing a lot of stuff which couldn't be done in a live take anyway.


Kotowboy

Quote from: Zydar on April 25, 2013, 06:24:56 AM
Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 25, 2013, 06:05:13 AM
Foo Fighters did a similar thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnmzins2Uow

My God. I love this album, gotta check this out. Thanks :tup

I used youTube downloader to get that in 1080p . It's virtually DVD quality and yes it's a GREAT performance ! ;D

Onno

Quote from: me7 on April 25, 2013, 06:20:36 AM
I'm especially fond of Metallica's St. Anger studio performance. It sounds a lot better than the overproduced CD version IMO. The songwriting is still below par, but at least the band sounds natural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_c1ZzyqgU
Yes, that one's great.

Dream Team

Quote from: Onno on April 25, 2013, 08:47:58 AM
Quote from: me7 on April 25, 2013, 06:20:36 AM
I'm especially fond of Metallica's St. Anger studio performance. It sounds a lot better than the overproduced CD version IMO. The songwriting is still below par, but at least the band sounds natural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_c1ZzyqgU
Yes, that one's great.

10x better than the record.

GasparXR

Quote from: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2013, 06:27:55 AM
Yeah, I love live studio takes. Certain bands should be doing that, anyway. I'm not trying to sound like a snob or anything but I really think live studio takes have a lot more character than recordings which have been sterilized and recorded piece by piece. Especially bands like DT, who don't really bother with doing a lot of stuff which couldn't be done in a live take anyway.



Overture would like to speak with you.

Perpetual Change

Overture should never have been recorded either live or in the studio :D

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
Overture should never have been recorded either live or in the studio :D

Take it to the blasphemous controversial failure opinion thread, chum........................p!

Perpetual Change

O RLY?

In my car, landing on "Overture" via shuffle and not skipping it would be the "controversial" thing to do :)

Besides, I had no idea "Overture" was particularly well-regarded. As far as I know, most people either don't like it or are just have no strong feelings about it one way or the other.

BlobVanDam

I think it's their best instrumental, and it kicks off DT's masterpiece perfectly.

aprilethereal

Quote from: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
Overture should never have been recorded either live or in the studio :D
Oh yes. It's not that great to start a song with six minutes of a cheesy artificial orchestra. DT has already done an Overture the right way, so why did they have to totally ruin a great song's beginning like this?

KevShmev

The main theme at the beginning of Overture is neat, but then it just kind of goes on and on, meandering about, and never really being that interesting.  I might very well like 6DOIT a lot more as a single piece of music if the Overture had been much better.  The fact that it is so obviously a keyboard trying to channel orchestra sounds and whatnot does not help its cause (since it is carrying the song).

BlobVanDam

Quote from: aprilethereal on April 25, 2013, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
Overture should never have been recorded either live or in the studio :D
Oh yes. It's not that great to start a song with six minutes of a cheesy artificial orchestra. DT has already done an Overture the right way, so why did they have to totally ruin a great song's beginning like this?

Compared to the SDOIT Overture, Overture 1928 feels like a half-assed approach (as great a job as it does kicking off SFAM).
Aside from the synth orchestra (which I don't mind at all anyway), the SDOIT Overture is such a musical achievement for DT. It really showcases how much of an asset JR is to the band for orchestrating music (among many other examples, of course), and it remains so melodic throughout without resorting to chops (as can be said for the rest of the song).

But anyway, this is getting off topic for this thread. Perhaps to the controversial opinion thread, since the failure of your opinion is heresy. :biggrin:

Perpetual Change

Quote from: aprilethereal on April 25, 2013, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
Overture should never have been recorded either live or in the studio :D
Oh yes. It's not that great to start a song with six minutes of a cheesy artificial orchestra. DT has already done an Overture the right way, so why did they have to totally ruin a great song's beginning like this?
Quote from: KevShmev on April 25, 2013, 11:55:35 AM
The main theme at the beginning of Overture is neat, but then it just kind of goes on and on, meandering about, and never really being that interesting.  I might very well like 6DOIT a lot more as a single piece of music if the Overture had been much better.  The fact that it is so obviously a keyboard trying to channel orchestra sounds and whatnot does not help its cause (since it is carrying the song).
Yup, exactly! Especially the bit about the way the orchestra sounds. So artificial. And not in that cool 80's obviously artifical way, but in the "trying too hard to sound real and failing" way.

It's slightly better sounding on Score, but it still suffers from being too long and meandering.

Anyway, circling back to the actual topic...

For me, DT are just one of those bands that usually sound better when they go for the stripped-down "live" feel.  Very few of their songs benefit from extra tinkering under special studio circumstances.  Here, I'm thinking not just of SDOIT, but also stuff like all the extra strings sections in the Octavarium album.  So, yeah, I full support a "Live in the Studio" type album mix.

wolfking

Man, I visit this thread every day hoping there is something about the dvd.  man, fuck this dvd!!!@$#!@$#%@#%$@#%@#$#$#!   FUCK over the edge productions, the only over the edge I like is james Labrie's!~!!#@#!@#!@#!@#

wolfking


Kotowboy

I agree with you.

Some updates would be good. Although I know it will be worth it once it's done.

adastra


perfey

Quote from: Kotowboy on April 26, 2013, 04:35:06 AM
I agree with you.

Some updates would be good. Although I know it will be worth it once it's done.

a51502112


?

DT haven't been able to build up momentum, they've only broken it down with this lack of updates... ::)

Zydar

Quote from: ? on April 26, 2013, 05:46:42 AM
DT haven't been able to build up momentum, they've only broken it down with this lack of updates... ::)

Looks like I'll have to wait a while longer to have this release in my..... INVENTORY!

wasteland

Quote from: adastra on April 26, 2013, 04:40:29 AM
I agree.. The DVD is propably cancelled.

There is no indication of this. Actually, less than a week ago the band published a piece of the Q&A video series where Mike Mangini confirmed that every song performed will be featured on the upcoming DVD.

?

Quote from: Zydar on April 26, 2013, 05:49:13 AM
Quote from: ? on April 26, 2013, 05:46:42 AM
DT haven't been able to build up momentum, they've only broken it down with this lack of updates... ::)

Looks like I'll have to wait a while longer to have this release in my..... INVENTORY!
Let me guess: when you finally receive it, it will be in your... ANALYSIS!

Also,


Perpetual Change

Yeah, the excitement is dead.

But that doesn't matter. As soon as a date is set and another trailer (with audio) is released, people will get pumped again.

wasteland

Indeed! Once the seed of fandom is planted, and it is, it takes so little to restore the excitement anew!

Cyclopssss