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Re: Lowdz' Top 50 albums - Guitar legend, He-Man and a rock opera
« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2013, 01:23:28 PM »
I thought that He-Man referenced Pornograffitti. :'(

Cool update though, I don't know Mr. Roberts, but Fair Warning is probably my favourite VH and The Scarecrow is simply incredible, I think I even ranked it higher than you do. Damn near perfect album. :metal
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« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2013, 01:24:39 PM »
I thought that He-Man referenced Pornograffitti. :'(

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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2013, 01:26:04 PM »
Love that Avantasia album.   :metal

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« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2013, 01:32:59 PM »
Outstanding VH album; my favorite from them and one of my all time favorites period.

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« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2013, 01:33:10 PM »
Love that Avantasia album.   :metal

This.  I really wish he'd drop Edguy and just do Avantasia full time. 
     

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Re: Lowdz' Top 50 albums - Guitar legend, He-Man and a rock opera
« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2013, 01:36:37 PM »
Any album with both Michael Kiske AND Alice Cooper is all win in my book. Love Fair Warning, but I never followed Kane after he left Alice's band.
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« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2013, 01:38:45 PM »
Love that Avantasia album.   :metal

This.  I really wish he'd drop Edguy and just do Avantasia full time.


Never could get into Edguy....tried a few albums but they never clicked with me - I've gobbled up everything from Avantasia, though.  And those discs usually stayed in my CD player for weeks at a time.

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« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2013, 01:40:54 PM »
Theater of Tragedy was pretty good, but anything else just makes me wish I was listening to Avantasia.

Do you read my thoughts or something?  I'm trying to think if we've ever disagreed on a musical opinion  :lol
     

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« Reply #79 on: February 04, 2013, 01:46:23 PM »
I don't think so  :lol


And (incredibly) that Edguy album is the ONLY ONE out of the three I bought that stayed on my iPod  :eek

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« Reply #80 on: February 04, 2013, 02:23:18 PM »
I knew the He Man reference was Kane Roberts.   ;D

Also, good pick with the Scarecrow although the debut is still my fav.

I was an Edguy fan long before Avantasia and they simply are not what they use to be.  Theater of Tragedy was awesome, but guys, Mandrake is classic, and Savage Poetry and Vain Glory Opera are as good as Avantasia IMO.
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« Reply #81 on: February 04, 2013, 02:23:37 PM »
I do like Edguy- Mandrake, Hellfire Club and Rocket Ride are awesome. Toby overdid the vibrato on the earlier albums and they are too overblown because of it and I find them hard to listen to. After Rocket Ride it seems that he saved the best songs for Avantasia.

And TAC, if you like Alice's Trash you should like KR's album.

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« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2013, 02:35:34 PM »
I understand what you are saying with the vibrato, he overdid it the most on VGO.  IMO though, Savage Poetry is the forgotten gem in Edguy's catalog, incredible power metal album.  Hellfire Club and Rocket are top notch too.  The last two, not so good.

I still have to check that Kane Roberts album too.
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« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2013, 07:57:07 PM »
Outstanding VH album; my favorite from them and one of my all time favorites period.

Not my favourite VH album, but definitely high up there. :tup The first album is one of the best hard rock albums of all time, and 5150 is amazing too. 1984 is great, but a bit short, and has a couple of duds. So Fair Warning is probably either 3rd or 4th for me.
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« Reply #84 on: February 05, 2013, 02:28:57 AM »
Outstanding VH album; my favorite from them and one of my all time favorites period.

Not my favourite VH album, but definitely high up there. :tup The first album is one of the best hard rock albums of all time, and 5150 is amazing too. 1984 is great, but a bit short, and has a couple of duds. So Fair Warning is probably either 3rd or 4th for me.

I was really disappointed in 5150. I dislike half of it. The good is excellent- WCTBL, Dreams, BOBW, LWI, but it's dragged down by the rest. The first album is gold, no doubt, but I probably prefer FW because it was my first VH album.
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« Reply #85 on: February 05, 2013, 02:33:44 AM »
Outstanding VH album; my favorite from them and one of my all time favorites period.

Not my favourite VH album, but definitely high up there. :tup The first album is one of the best hard rock albums of all time, and 5150 is amazing too. 1984 is great, but a bit short, and has a couple of duds. So Fair Warning is probably either 3rd or 4th for me.

I was really disappointed in 5150. I dislike half of it. The good is excellent- WCTBL, Dreams, BOBW, LWI, but it's dragged down by the rest. The first album is gold, no doubt, but I probably prefer FW because I heard it was my first VH album.

I don't like the last two tracks of 5150, but Good Enough and Get Up are awesome rockers, and Summer Nights is quite a good under the radar track, even though not a standout.
But FW is a great album anyway. I love the heavier edge of the detuned guitars. I just don't like Push Comes To Shove, and the last two tracks are throwaway filler as far as I'm concerned. Rest of the album rocks though.
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« Reply #86 on: February 05, 2013, 04:04:25 PM »
37 Gary Moore- We Want Moore (1984)



Gary was one of the first guitarists I was into, and a big influence to my playing. His was one of the first gigs I ever went to and I've probably seen him live more than any other act. He had to have an album on this list but his albums were very hit and miss for me. I am a fan of his first couple of Blues albums but his 80s output was where it was at for me- I just never loved whole albums, there was too much filler. This is a great live album and contains better versions of the songs than their more sterile, high tech (for the time) album versions, and I play this more than any of his other albums. The intro to Empty Rooms- a great ballad that sounded too produced as the studio version- is beautiful. The solo to ER is beautiful and heartfelt. The rest of the album rocks. RIP Gary.

Best tracks- Murder In The Skies, Victims Of The future, So Far Away/Empty Rooms, Shapes Of Things

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36 Q5- Steel The Light (1984)



in the 80s about the only place in the UK you got to hear any hard rock on the radio was Tommy Vance's Friday Rock Show. His show introduced me to many bands I would come to love; Queensryche being one, and Q5 another. Tommy used to play the title track a lot. Guitarist Floyd Rose (of whammy bar locking system fame) and Tim Pierce shred away through this great melodic metal classic- plenty of whammy abuse as you can imagine. The singer, Jonathan K, sounds like an unlikely cross between Steve Perry and Brian Johnson. The title track is a mid tempo stomper, there's a couple of great rock ballads but the emphasis is on some classy hard rock. It was reissued with the original demos too. The follow up album went more commercial, more AOR, but it was still a decent album but the fanbase deserted them and they disappeared afterwards.

Best tracks- Lonely Lady, Missing In Action, Pull The Trigger , Steel The Light,

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« Reply #87 on: February 05, 2013, 05:22:25 PM »
Awesome Gary Moore live album. Never heard of that other one.

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« Reply #88 on: February 06, 2013, 12:17:33 AM »
I'm a guitar fanatic and have enjoyed Moore's work in/with Lizzy and Lynott and meant to check more into him. The only thing holding me back is worrying a lot of his solo material is filler writing and or too cheesy. I listened to the first tune you linked "Murder in the Skies" just as I figured I was drooling at his guitar playing but the song itself didn't stand out. His playing is f'n stellar in most everything I've heard him on. Always leaves me wishing he'd have hooked up with a bigger band but obviously it never seemed to work out that way.

DAMN do I love his playing though so I imagine that at some point I'll be delving into MOORE of his stuff :facepalm:

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« Reply #89 on: February 06, 2013, 01:38:39 AM »
I'm a guitar fanatic and have enjoyed Moore's work in/with Lizzy and Lynott and meant to check more into him. The only thing holding me back is worrying a lot of his solo material is filler writing and or too cheesy. I listened to the first tune you linked "Murder in the Skies" just as I figured I was drooling at his guitar playing but the song itself didn't stand out. His playing is f'n stellar in most everything I've heard him on. Always leaves me wishing he'd have hooked up with a bigger band but obviously it never seemed to work out that way.

DAMN do I love his playing though so I imagine that at some point I'll be delving into MOORE of his stuff :facepalm:
I went through all, or a bigger part of, his stuff some seven years ago. Really, there is some filler, but the good stuff is so good.

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« Reply #90 on: February 06, 2013, 01:40:00 AM »
Gary was a talent, no doubt about that. His stuff was very much of it's time- programmed drums and sequencers and that dates it alot. As I said I always found his albums to be full of filler so maybe Spotify his stuff and just iTunes the tracks you like.
If you have any interest in the Blues his Still Got The Blues and After Hours albums are essential. The fire in his playing is a blast of fresh air.

Best studio album by far for me from his rock days would be Wild Frontier (more of that Celtic/Lizzy influence) then Corridors Of Power or Victims Of The Future.

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« Reply #91 on: February 06, 2013, 03:21:59 AM »
We Want Moore is one of the best live albums ever, agree with every word Paul.  I'll also mention End of the World and Don't Take Me For A Loser, with that incredible solo.  Love Gary, but agree there is filler on every album.

Never heard of Q5 to be honest, should check that out too.
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« Reply #92 on: February 06, 2013, 03:26:07 AM »
We Want Moore is one of the best live albums ever, agree with every word Paul.  I'll also mention End of the World and Don't Take Me For A Loser, with that incredible solo.  Love Gary, but agree there is filler on every album.

Never heard of Q5 to be honest, should check that out too.

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« Reply #93 on: February 06, 2013, 03:27:18 AM »
I don't doubt that at all.  :lol
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« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2013, 05:54:16 AM »
Best studio album by far for me from his rock days would be Wild Frontier (more of that Celtic/Lizzy influence) then Corridors Of Power or Victims Of The Future.
Damn. Must play that today.

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« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2013, 06:22:38 AM »
Love Gary Moore! Absolutely.

My Fave is Corridors Of Power, but I'm also taking After The War over Wild Frontier. But I love Wild Frontier.

yes, lots of filler, but that's not unlike most bands, no?

Also, although Dark Days in Paradise is pretty bad, if you've never heard Business As Usual, you must! One of Gary's best songs ever!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgwuJdJfoY4
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« Reply #96 on: February 06, 2013, 06:47:50 AM »
Love Gary Moore! Absolutely.

My Fave is Corridors Of Power, but I'm also taking After The War over Wild Frontier. But I love Wild Frontier.

yes, lots of filler, but that's not unlike most bands, no?

Also, although Dark Days in Paradise is pretty bad, if you've never heard Business As Usual, you must! One of Gary's best songs ever!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgwuJdJfoY4

never bought DDIP but have heRD THt song and I agree, it's a good one. I did get A Different Beat and that was abysmal. His more recent blues albums were ok, but not a patch on the first two. I believe he was working on a hard rock/Celtic album before he died- that I would have been interested in.

Anyone listened to the Q5 samples? Interested to hear your thoughts.

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« Reply #97 on: February 06, 2013, 07:12:59 AM »
A Different Beat was by far the worst thing he ever put his name on.

I actually really love Power Of The Blues, but agree that SGTB and AH were his two best. My favorite Gary Live Album is actually Blues Alive.
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« Reply #98 on: February 06, 2013, 10:24:40 AM »
A band called Powergod released a couple of 80's metal tribute albums about 10 years ago.  Mostly just featured obscure bands; which included Q5.  "Steel the Light".  Awesome song.

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« Reply #99 on: February 06, 2013, 02:27:35 PM »
I want to mention Gary's Scars project, that was an awesome rock album IMO.
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« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2013, 02:57:42 PM »
I want to mention Gary's Scars project, that was an awesome rock album IMO.
Well, it didn't suck. So that at least was good. Some good tunes on there.
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« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2013, 03:05:09 PM »
Never heard it.

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« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2013, 03:22:52 PM »
Never heard it.

Here's two of the better tracks:
Ball And Chain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoRRwPunyOM
long slow and bluesy, but full of awesome guitar work

Stand up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCPFijF0Prw
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« Reply #103 on: February 06, 2013, 03:25:05 PM »
Just youtubed a couple- not doing it for me I'm afraid.

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« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2013, 03:26:50 PM »
Just youtubed a couple- not doing it for me I'm afraid.
Still better than A Different Beat. :lol

would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol