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Eve Appreciation Thread
« on: January 05, 2013, 04:12:49 PM »
So neither the search nor Marc's Song Thread turned up a thread about this song, which is a shame, considering that this is one of DT's most beautiful pieces of music ever written.

Appreciate.
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 04:13:50 PM »
Oh, yes, I was about to start this myself, but you ninja'd me :)


I love this song :hearts:
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 04:15:09 PM »
Oh, yes, I was about to start this myself, but you ninja'd me :)

Excellent. :deadpool:

I love this song :hearts:

No number of hearts will ever be enough for Eve. :heart :heart

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 04:15:32 PM »
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO OPEN IT turns into "I was just about to post how I wanted to open it too."

Goddamit people just listen to it. Listen. It's like the best of Kevin and the best of melodic JP. Come the fuck on. Be human and surrender to it for the love of moo cows.

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 04:18:51 PM »
I am almost overwhelmed when the sampled voice says:

"... guide us home."

just before the two solos.  :heart
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 04:31:24 PM »
People say Kevin's samples don't fit :rollin

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 04:33:56 PM »
Their best instrumental. Simple yet so emotional. A melody tells a million words.
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 04:49:27 PM »
Question: would you like to petition the band to play this gem of a song once again on tours? My signature is already there.
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 04:51:22 PM »
I've always said it sounds like a really early Chroma Key demo melded together with an undeveloped jam of JP's. The best feature of it is definitely the way that short drum spotlight makes your heart skip a beat, and the sudden dark ending absolutely takes my breath away. It feels like someone dropped a weight on my stomach while I was peacefully stargazing, the apprehension, the "this-will-not-end-well" of those two seconds, they just kill me. They couldn't resist suggesting there lay a seed of discord in the faerylike purity of whatever it was they wanted to represent in the song, but then there's a clean, conclusive and warm, almost unnoticeable piano note and wintery flourishes on the keys, and the sound of drums settling down behind it that make everything seem right again. Like it was a human being (well, it is named after the first woman, so I might be on to something here) with its imperfections that just highlight its beauty.

I'm not sure all of it is on purpose, nor that it's supposed to be "read" that way but that's the fun of it, right?

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 04:53:27 PM »
I can tell you that the usual live ending was a bit different and more fairy-like. I'll see if I can provide an example tomorrow :)
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 04:54:39 PM »
... They clearly didn't want overimaginative girls like me losing their minds over it. :rollin

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 04:57:36 PM »
Actually, I stand corrected. The note of discord was often (not always) played, but Kevin usually added a few dreamy ascending notes right after, concluding the song on a dreamy tone.
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 04:59:40 PM »
I want this song so badly hnggggggggggggghhh


You know, like on a live CD or something.
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 05:00:31 PM »
I want this song so badly hnggggggggggggghhh


You know, like on a live CD or something.
I want it yesterday! :-\

Actually, I stand corrected. The note of discord was often (not always) played, but Kevin usually added a few dreamy ascending notes right after, concluding the song on a dreamy tone.
Dammit, Kevin, make up your mind ;D

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 05:01:49 PM »
Milena criticising KM?

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 05:02:52 PM »
Milena criticising KM?

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2013, 05:11:18 PM »
Milena criticising KM?

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I often criticize KM. Because he's not fair :lol
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2013, 05:27:51 PM »
Amazing song. Don't really care for the samples though.

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2013, 06:11:48 PM »
"Once upon a time, and a very good times it was, their was a moo cow coming down along the road."
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2013, 06:48:26 PM »
"Once upon a time, and a very good times it was, their was a moo cow coming down along the road."

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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2013, 07:33:57 PM »
The samples don't count, they aren't on the studio recording.  Which is vastly superior to every live version I've ever heard.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2013, 09:42:47 PM »
If only the samples were in the studio...but I like the calmness of the studio.
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2013, 12:20:21 AM »
Amazing and beautiful song, easily their best instrumental! :hefdaddy It's about as ambient as DT ever got - I prefer the studio version without the samples. I wish DT wrote more songs like this, but I know it won't happen - Hell's Kitchen is probably the closest they got to the magic of Eve and not even that one can beat it.

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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2013, 12:22:12 AM »
The samples don't count, they aren't on the studio recording.  Which is vastly superior to every live version I've ever heard.

Your samples don't count.
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2013, 04:44:33 AM »
The samples don't count, they aren't on the studio recording.  Which is vastly superior to every live version I've ever heard.

Your samples don't count.
I don't give samples.  All or nothing.
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2013, 11:09:16 AM »
Ok then. I guess I'll take it all. :zydar:

On Topic: I usually listen to the live version of Eve w/ the samples... but last night I listened to the studio version. My pants... they got tighter...  So beautiful.
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2013, 03:10:23 PM »
How many versions of this are there?

Keyboard and guitar solo studio and guitar and keyboard version live. Are there more than four?

I think I prefer both of Kevin's versions although John's solos are bad either...

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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2013, 03:42:50 PM »
I just have the version from the ytse jam boot from 93 or something
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2013, 03:45:42 PM »
I just have the version from the ytse jam boot from 93 or something

Ah yes, the NYC 3-4-93 show. Great show!

I have that and the version from Cleaning Out The Closet which I assume is no different than the version released on The Silent Man Single... or is it? I've never bothered to check.

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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2013, 03:47:11 PM »
I also aquired a studio version... I -think- its from Cleaning out the closet
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2013, 04:03:48 PM »
I also aquired a studio version... I -think- its from Cleaning out the closet

I have always wanted to buy COTC... But it's so expensive  :(
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« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2013, 04:22:51 PM »
I also aquired a studio version... I -think- its from Cleaning out the closet

I have always wanted to buy COTC... But it's so expensive  :(

I got mine from eBay for a sweet $79 after shipping. One of the best purchases I've made!

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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2013, 04:25:16 PM »
Sure, but it's not really the definition of cheap.
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Re: Eve Appreciation Thread
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2013, 04:25:24 PM »
It boggles my mind that Eve got tucked away as a B-side to The Silent Man.
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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2013, 04:27:15 PM »
It boggles my mind that Eve got tucked away as a B-side to The Silent Man.

Are you getting this information from a source? I'm not aware that there has ever been a choice on what to include between The Silent Man.
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