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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2835 on: May 22, 2013, 09:33:43 AM »
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2837 on: May 22, 2013, 10:45:36 AM »
Anna Lee is great.  If I remember right, Portnoy said it was too tied to Derek to continue playing live, like SDV was to Kevin.  Whether the current members feel that way, who knows.

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2838 on: May 22, 2013, 10:49:00 AM »
At least JP pointed out that it wasn't completely written by Derek in the 5YIALT commentary, but I don't know whether the current members care about that song nowadays, or at least enough to play it live.

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2840 on: May 22, 2013, 10:56:10 AM »
If I saw DT play Anna Lee live, that would be my bathroom break song, even if I didn't have to pee

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2841 on: May 22, 2013, 11:40:06 AM »
I don't mind Anna Lee, but I kinda wish it had been cut from the album to make room for Speak To Me.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2842 on: May 22, 2013, 11:41:13 AM »
I don't mind Anna Lee, but I kinda wish it had been cut from the album to make room for Speak To Me.


You know... I'd be okay with this!
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2843 on: May 22, 2013, 11:44:51 AM »
Anna Lee is much better than Speak To Me. I can't say I like any of the cut songs from FII all that much. The only one I'd say is ok is RTK, and even that is pretty average.

And I'd like to hear Anna Lee live. :tup
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2844 on: May 22, 2013, 12:38:40 PM »
Meh...

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2845 on: May 22, 2013, 12:51:31 PM »
Anna Lee :heart Speak to Me is great, but they should have cut New Millenium and re-arranged the track order instead of cutting Anna Lee, if they wanted to change anything at all. FII is pretty darn perfect as it is, anyway.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2846 on: May 22, 2013, 01:21:03 PM »
Anna Lee is average, at best.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2847 on: May 22, 2013, 01:24:45 PM »
It's an OK song, but I overlook it a lot. When I feel like listening to some DT ballads I usually put on something else...
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« Reply #2848 on: May 22, 2013, 02:35:16 PM »
Sorry, wrong post. Carry on.
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« Reply #2849 on: May 22, 2013, 02:36:26 PM »
Sorry, wrong post. Carry on.

It took me a while to realize you were talking about To Live Forever. xD

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« Reply #2850 on: May 22, 2013, 03:27:25 PM »
It's an OK song, but I overlook it a lot. When I feel like listening to some DT ballads I usually put on something else...
Pretty much anything else. It never did anything for me. If they were to bust out one of their more obscure ballads on the next tour, and I mean obscure in terms of the number of live performances over the years, they better go with Space-dye vest.

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2851 on: May 22, 2013, 03:44:37 PM »
Well, that's a given for me  :tup
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2852 on: May 22, 2013, 04:24:56 PM »
If I saw DT play WAnna Pee live, that would be my bathroom break song, even if I didn't have to pee

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« Reply #2853 on: May 22, 2013, 06:03:35 PM »
Sorry, wrong post. Carry on.

It took me a while to realize you were talking about To Live Forever. xD

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2854 on: May 22, 2013, 07:38:34 PM »
On 2000 one of my best friends got married and used Anna Lee as the wedding song. Didn't expect that. It was a nice surprise.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2855 on: May 22, 2013, 09:41:08 PM »
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2856 on: May 23, 2013, 12:21:04 AM »
I don't love Anna Lee, but I don't hate it.  Jordan can add some leads to it, spice it up like they did Surrounded, it would be a lot better.

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2857 on: May 23, 2013, 03:58:33 AM »
Parts of Hell's Kitchen have been played, but the song itself has not been.  You Not Me, Anna Lee and Take Away My Pain have all not been played, IIRC. That is 4/11, which = nearly half of FII. ;)


I don't consider 36% to be "nearly half".  I'd call it "more than a third", maybe.   :P

-You Not Me:  Let's face it, the amount of people who actually like this song, both inside and outside the band, is relatively small.  There isn't really any kind of serious demand for this song.

I'm championing a live rendition of the demo version You Or Me.  I mentioned this to Portnoy at a M&G on the Progressive Nation tour, especially since his FII Official Bootleg liner notes talk about bringing it back. So that attempt didn't work out for me.  I really am the small faction wanting to build a groundswell for this song.   

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2858 on: May 23, 2013, 04:03:28 AM »
I like You Not Me. I think it's a cool song. I don't get the hate, really.

Also, I can vouch for Hollow Years being played. I was at the Black Clouds & Silver Linings tour in 2009 in Brisbane, Australia and they played Hollow Years. And actually, it was the strength & beauty of that performance that got me listening to not only Hollow Years a lot, but FII as a whole.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2859 on: May 23, 2013, 04:54:22 AM »
I like You Not Me. I think it's a cool song. I don't get the hate, really.

So this.
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« Reply #2860 on: May 23, 2013, 08:20:17 AM »
I'm championing a live rendition of the demo version You Or Me.  I mentioned this to Portnoy at a M&G on the Progressive Nation tour, especially since his FII Official Bootleg liner notes talk about bringing it back. So that attempt didn't work out for me.  I really am the small faction wanting to build a groundswell for this song.


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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2861 on: May 23, 2013, 08:52:45 AM »
I like You Not Me. I think it's a cool song. I don't get the hate, really.

So this.
Mike Portnoy hated it, so all the fans went like OMG SUCH A CRAPPY SAWNG! As most of FII, which we know wasn't made by Portnoy's standards.

Of course, there are people who legitimately don't like it and that' fine; but I see that song as a standard radio rock-pop tune which isn't necessarily bad.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2862 on: May 23, 2013, 09:37:32 AM »
Yeah. It's problem is that it's on a VERY strong album and therefore naturally somewhat falls to the weaker end, but it's still better than New Millennium and Just Let Me Breathe, which are the low points of FII for me, and even the latter is decent. YNM isn't really bad at all, it's just... nothing really exciting.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2863 on: May 23, 2013, 01:21:28 PM »
I like You Not Me. I think it's a cool song. I don't get the hate, really.

So this.
Mike Portnoy hated it, so all the fans went like OMG SUCH A CRAPPY SAWNG! As most of FII, which we know wasn't made by Portnoy's standards.

Of course, there are people who legitimately don't like it and that' fine; but I see that song as a standard radio rock-pop tune which isn't necessarily bad.
I didn't dislike You Not Me that much until I heard You Or Me. You Or Me's chorus sounds like something DT would write, and frankly I think it's a ton catchier.
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« Reply #2864 on: May 23, 2013, 02:00:16 PM »
Mike Portnoy hated it, so all the fans went like OMG SUCH A CRAPPY SAWNG! As most of FII, which we know wasn't made by Portnoy's standards.
Portnoy also expressed his indifference (or maybe even disliking) towards Space-dye vest, yet most of the fans absolutely adore it.

It would be a shame if fans immediately decided they didn't like something if the band didn't like what they did. If that were the case, I'd hate Atom heart mother like some Pink Floyd members. Musicians can be very hard on themselves sometimes...

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2865 on: May 23, 2013, 08:43:17 PM »
If I saw DT play Anna Lee live, that would be my bathroom break song, even if I didn't have to pee

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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2866 on: May 23, 2013, 09:33:15 PM »
Mike Portnoy hated it, so all the fans went like OMG SUCH A CRAPPY SAWNG! As most of FII, which we know wasn't made by Portnoy's standards.
Portnoy also expressed his indifference (or maybe even disliking) towards Space-dye vest, yet most of the fans absolutely adore it.

It would be a shame if fans immediately decided they didn't like something if the band didn't like what they did. If that were the case, I'd hate Atom heart mother like some Pink Floyd members. Musicians can be very hard on themselves sometimes...

And Rush fans would hate everything Rush did before Permanent Waves.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2867 on: May 23, 2013, 09:41:09 PM »
Eh, Neil Peart is the only of the three to not have great love for most of Rush's 1970s material.  And honestly, I think it's because he doesn't look back with fondness on the type of lyrics he wrote in their early days.

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« Reply #2868 on: May 24, 2013, 01:17:42 AM »
Mike Portnoy hated it, so all the fans went like OMG SUCH A CRAPPY SAWNG! As most of FII, which we know wasn't made by Portnoy's standards.
Portnoy also expressed his indifference (or maybe even disliking) towards Space-dye vest, yet most of the fans absolutely adore it.

It would be a shame if fans immediately decided they didn't like something if the band didn't like what they did. If that were the case, I'd hate Atom heart mother like some Pink Floyd members. Musicians can be very hard on themselves sometimes...

I don't believe anyone is actually impressionable enough to base their opinion on the band's opinion. It's just one of those empty defenses to me. I thought Space Dye Vest was a borefest long before I ever knew MP's feelings on it (I wouldn't agree that most fans adore it anyway).

And I'm pretty sure any dislike for FII (and YNM) also started well before anyone knew MP's feelings on it. To be fair, YNM is an average song at best (and I mean by general standards, not by DT standards). It's not that bad, but at best it's still a bottom DT song, even if MP had said it's the greatest song ever written. And I'm probably one of the biggest FII fans here.
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Re: DT in the studio again!
« Reply #2869 on: May 24, 2013, 05:28:38 AM »
I don't believe anyone is actually impressionable enough to base their opinion on the band's opinion. It's just one of those empty defenses to me. I thought Space Dye Vest was a borefest long before I ever knew MP's feelings on it (I wouldn't agree that most fans adore it anyway).

Well, I KNOW I've mentioned SDV and MP's dislike of it in the same breath here at DTF but honestly?  It wasn't MP's opinion about it that molded mine.  Like Blob, I formed my opinion about it well before I knew what MP's opinion was.