DT in the studio again!

[MoraWintersoul]

Um, to continue the multi-thread spanning "I dreamed of DT's new vid"-posts, I just remembered I dreamed of something this morning. In an otherwise really weird dream, I ran across JLB and MM in the main street of my town across a now defunct metal bar. They asked me to take them to the location where there new vid was filmed, which was somewhere in the park. MM was smiling very broadly at me and asking random passerbyes even more random questions. When I lead them to the location, JLB called me a great kid and gave me a kiss on the cheek and I blushed profusely

[bosk1]

Was there a wheelbarrow?

[MoraWintersoul]

Sadly there were no wheelbarrows but I have vague memories of talking about the CSI filter being a thing.

[bosk1]

Sadly there were no wheelbarrows

[JayOctavarium]

wait... so you lead them from Serbia to California?

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

Can you give examples of some of these bi-annual releases you reference?

Fly By Night and Caress of Steel by Rush were both released in '75.

Pretty sure Buckethead has everyone beat. These are his albums and the years they were released.


    1992: Bucketheadland
    1994: Giant Robot
    1996: The Day of the Robot
    1998: Colma
    1999: Monsters and Robots
    2001: Somewhere Over the Slaughterhouse
    2002: Funnel Weaver
    2002: Bermuda Triangle
    2002: Electric Tears
    2003: Bucketheadland 2
    2004: Island of Lost Minds
    2004: Population Override
    2004: The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell
    2005: Enter the Chicken
    2005: Kaleidoscalp
    2005: Inbred Mountain
    2006: The Elephant Man's Alarm Clock
    2006: Crime Slunk Scene
    2007: Pepper's Ghost
    2007: Decoding the Tomb of Bansheebot
    2007: Cyborg Slunks
    2008: Albino Slug
    2009: Slaughterhouse on the Prairie
    2009: A Real Diamond in the Rough
    2009: Forensic Follies
    2009: Needle in a Slunk Stack
    2010: Shadows Between the Sky
    2010: Spinal Clock
    2010: Captain Eo's Voyage
    2010: 3 Foot Clearance
    2011: It's Alive
    2011: Empty Space
    2011: Underground Chamber
    2011: Look Up There
    2012: Electric Sea
    2012: Balloon Cement
    2012: The Shores of Molokai
    2012: Racks
    2012: March of the Slunks
    2012: The Silent Picture Book
    2013: Pike 11
    2013: Pike 12
    2013: Pike 14
    2013: Pike 15
    2013: Pike 13

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, but it's Buckethead.

[Lucien]

Anxiously waiting for news.

I recently obtained SDoIT in the mail.

Here's something to chew on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9csZ5fr-3s

[Kotowboy]

Not the greatest bass sound in the world. 

[KevShmev]

It's clear- NO band is as good as Dream Theater at 1, coming out with new albums consistently and 2, playing ALL songs live (literally every song from every album is on the possible-to-hear list when you see DT, which is absolutely astounding.
 

Number 1 is not true.

Neither is number 2, since DT does not play ALL of their songs.  Heck, nearly half of the songs from Falling into Infinity have not been played since Jordan Rudess joined the band 14 years ago.

[GasparXR]

It's clear- NO band is as good as Dream Theater at 1, coming out with new albums consistently and 2, playing ALL songs live (literally every song from every album is on the possible-to-hear list when you see DT, which is absolutely astounding.
 

Number 1 is not true.

Neither is number 2, since DT does not play ALL of their songs.  Heck, nearly half of the songs from Falling into Infinity have not been played since Jordan Rudess joined the band 14 years ago.

Is it really true about FII? Let's count:

New Millenium has been played lots on the ToT tour. You Not Me hasn't been played. Peruvian Skies has appeared on the 8V and ADTOE tours numerous times. Hollow Years was included in the ToT and BC&SL tours quite a bit. Burning My Soul was a regular on the SDOIT tour, and it was the '96 version which has parts of Hell's Kitchen, the end of which also appears in Instrumedley with appeared on the SDOIT and TOT tours. LITS was a regular in 2002 and 2007-2008. TAMP I'm not sure about. JLMB appeared on the 8V tour more than a few times. Anna Lee hasn't been played. Trial of Tears was a regular in 2004, not sure about since. More than half the album has been played regularly for one or more tours since JR joined. Assuming none of this is misinformation, otherwise my post was useless.

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

I'm pretty sure they play Peruvian Skies every time they're in Peru... I mean, they're kinda obligated to right? haha

[KevShmev]

Parts of Hell's Kitchen have been played, but the song itself has not been.  You Not Me, Anna Lee and Take Away My Pain have all not been played, IIRC. That is 4/11, which = nearly half of FII.

[GasparXR]

Parts of Hell's Kitchen have been played, but the song itself has not been.  You Not Me, Anna Lee and Take Away My Pain have all not been played, IIRC. That is 4/11, which = nearly half of FII.

Oops, didn't catch the 'nearly', haha.

[wasteland]

New Millennium - 1997-8, 2002, 2004
You Not Me - January 1998 (three times IIRC)
Peruvian Skies - 1996-1998, 1999-00, maybe 02, 04, 04-06, 10 (once), 11
Hollow Years - 1999-00, 02-03, 04, 09-10
BMS - 1997-98, 96,02 ('96)
Hell's Kitchen - 1998 (four or five times, acoustic shows)
Lits - 96-98, 02, 07-08
TAMP - 96-98
Anna Lee - 1998
Trial Of Tears - 1997(?)-1998, 2004

They have all been played.

[?]

They have all been played.

But not with Jordan, which is what Kev meant.

Going back to the Awake discussion, playing SDV (in every show, not just some one-off gig because otherwise I wouldn't see it) would be a good idea to celebrate the anniversary - it will have been 20 years, FFS!

[wasteland]

Oh, I guess I didn't read as many posts as I should have If so, yes, only NM, PS, HY, parts of H'sK, LITS, JLMB and TOT. 

[aprilethereal]

Going back to the Awake discussion, playing SDV (in every show, not just some one-off gig because otherwise I wouldn't see it) would be a good idea to celebrate the anniversary - it will have been 20 years, FFS!

My life would be complete

[DebraKadabra]

Welcome to five pages ago.

I know, but I saw it starting up again, so I thought I'd chime in. hahaha 

 

[ZirconBlue]

Parts of Hell's Kitchen have been played, but the song itself has not been.  You Not Me, Anna Lee and Take Away My Pain have all not been played, IIRC. That is 4/11, which = nearly half of FII.

I don't consider 36% to be "nearly half".  I'd call it "more than a third", maybe.   

[bosk1]

Parts of Hell's Kitchen have been played, but the song itself has not been.  You Not Me, Anna Lee and Take Away My Pain have all not been played, IIRC. That is 4/11, which = nearly half of FII.

I don't consider 36% to be "nearly half".  I'd call it "more than a third", maybe.   

Exactly.  And the examples given don't really further the argument anyway because:
-Hell's Kitchen:  As pointed out, it has been partially played, and on more than one tour.  The fact that the original hasn't been played from start to finish in awhile isn't really an issue.  It's been played.
-You Not Me:  Let's face it, the amount of people who actually like this song, both inside and outside the band, is relatively small.  There isn't really any kind of serious demand for this song.
-Take Away My Pain:  I really want to see this, but while it hasn't been played since Jordan joined, it has been played live.  There are only so many ballads the band can really play live, so I get that some may be sparse rotation.  It's time for this one to come back.  But, again, it's not like they've never played it.  They have.
-Anna Lee:  Really, this is the only song where I truly see a valid argument.  They should try to bring this one out.  But, again, the problem still exists that there are only so many ballads you can put into a live set, and they have so many good ballads (maybe "slow song" is a better term than "ballad," but you get where I'm coming from) that I can understand this one being overlooked. 

But really, DT do an exceptional job of reaching deep into the catalog to play the vast majority of their songs.  They always have.  Just because there may be a few exceptions does not take away from that.

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

Parts of Hell's Kitchen have been played, but the song itself has not been.  You Not Me, Anna Lee and Take Away My Pain have all not been played, IIRC. That is 4/11, which = nearly half of FII.

I don't consider 36% to be "nearly half".  I'd call it "more than a third", maybe.   

Exactly.  And the examples given don't really further the argument anyway because:
-Hell's Kitchen:  As pointed out, it has been partially played, and on more than one tour.  The fact that the original hasn't been played from start to finish in awhile isn't really an issue.  It's been played.
-You Not Me:  Let's face it, the amount of people who actually like this song, both inside and outside the band, is relatively small.  There isn't really any kind of serious demand for this song.
-Take Away My Pain:  I really want to see this, but while it hasn't been played since Jordan joined, it has been played live.  There are only so many ballads the band can really play live, so I get that some may be sparse rotation.  It's time for this one to come back.  But, again, it's not like they've never played it.  They have.
-Anna Lee:  Really, this is the only song where I truly see a valid argument.  They should try to bring this one out.  But, again, the problem still exists that there are only so many ballads you can put into a live set, and they have so many good ballads (maybe "slow song" is a better term than "ballad," but you get where I'm coming from) that I can understand this one being overlooked. 

But really, DT do an exceptional job of reaching deep into the catalog to play the vast majority of their songs.  They always have.  Just because there may be a few exceptions does not take away from that.

Nail on the head. Couldn't have said it better myself. 

[DebraKadabra]

I'd be glad if they never brought Anna Lee back, to be honest...

[KevShmev]

Parts of Hell's Kitchen have been played, but the song itself has not been.  You Not Me, Anna Lee and Take Away My Pain have all not been played, IIRC. That is 4/11, which = nearly half of FII.

I don't consider 36% to be "nearly half".  I'd call it "more than a third", maybe.   

Semantics aside , it is obvious that DT has done a great job over the years of covering most of their songs live, but it is overstating it to say that every DT song is a possibility to hear live at any show you go to.  It wasn't that case when Portnoy was in the band, and it is certainly not that way now.

[JayOctavarium]

I'd be glad if they never brought Anna Lee back, to be honest...

wut

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

Does anyone think JP is recording his new solo album while they're recording DT12?

[darkshade]

There are times when I miss the 70's and 80's, when bands were hot and they would put out an album a year and sometimes 2 in
a single year. New music is like a drug. This modern approach (while good for bands with families) seems so slow.

Can you give examples of some of these bi-annual releases you reference?

Fly By Night and Caress of Steel by Rush were both released in '75.

Pretty sure Buckethead has everyone beat. These are his albums and the years they were released.


    1992: Bucketheadland
    1994: Giant Robot
    1996: The Day of the Robot
    1998: Colma
    1999: Monsters and Robots
    2001: Somewhere Over the Slaughterhouse
    2002: Funnel Weaver
    2002: Bermuda Triangle
    2002: Electric Tears
    2003: Bucketheadland 2
    2004: Island of Lost Minds
    2004: Population Override
    2004: The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell
    2005: Enter the Chicken
    2005: Kaleidoscalp
    2005: Inbred Mountain
    2006: The Elephant Man's Alarm Clock
    2006: Crime Slunk Scene
    2007: Pepper's Ghost
    2007: Decoding the Tomb of Bansheebot
    2007: Cyborg Slunks
    2008: Albino Slug
    2009: Slaughterhouse on the Prairie
    2009: A Real Diamond in the Rough
    2009: Forensic Follies
    2009: Needle in a Slunk Stack
    2010: Shadows Between the Sky
    2010: Spinal Clock
    2010: Captain Eo's Voyage
    2010: 3 Foot Clearance
    2011: It's Alive
    2011: Empty Space
    2011: Underground Chamber
    2011: Look Up There
    2012: Electric Sea
    2012: Balloon Cement
    2012: The Shores of Molokai
    2012: Racks
    2012: March of the Slunks
    2012: The Silent Picture Book
    2013: Pike 11
    2013: Pike 12
    2013: Pike 14
    2013: Pike 15
    2013: Pike 13

How about Frank Zappa, Miles Davis, and John Zorn? Zappa is close to 100 official releases as of 2013, Miles released massive amounts of music, and Zorn has who-knows how many albums by now.

[Dreamer81]

Anxiously waiting for news.

I recently obtained SDoIT in the mail.

Here's something to chew on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9csZ5fr-3s

THIS is the real deal, amazing rhytmic work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPu5jOB69T8

[?]

I'd be glad if they never brought Anna Lee back, to be honest...

Agreed. It's not a bad song, but doesn't really do anything to me. They could use that time to play some better ballad.

[DebraKadabra]

I'd be glad if they never brought Anna Lee back, to be honest...

wut

I didn't stutter.

I'd be glad if they never brought Anna Lee back, to be honest...

Agreed. It's not a bad song, but doesn't really do anything to me. They could use that time to play some better ballad.

Exactly.

[TAC]

They would need to re do Anna Lee somehow, similar to what they did with Hollow Years, taking the FII version from a Bottom 15 to a Live At Budokan version going to a Top 15.

[DebraKadabra]

That'd be kind of difficult, don't you think?  I mean, it IS Anna Lee after all...

[JayOctavarium]

That'd be kind of difficult, don't you think?  I mean, it IS Anna Lee after all...

[DebraKadabra]

 

[hefdaddy42]

Anna Lee is fantastic.