Author Topic: DT in the studio again! (Read 847865 times)

robwebster · « **Reply #1785 on:** April 12, 2013, 11:54:41 AM »

Quote from: Orbert on April 12, 2013, 11:50:15 AM

I know it's just my musical snobbery speaking, but I always had more respect for drummers/percussionists who knew their way around tuned percussion. Vibes, marimba, even bells. Knowing notes and key signatures and stuff, versus just knowing how to hit things. That's a totally oversimplified way of putting it, of course, but you know what I mean.

No, I think that's completely fair. It's an extra skill on top of the set of necessary skills - that's always a good thing. It's like saying "I have more respect for journalists who know shorthand." By no means necessary, and there are plenty of brilliant journalists who don't have a clue, but it's a cool skill that helps you excel and be adaptable at your job. Don't think it's snobbery at all. To drum is great, to drum in tune is fantastic.

jonnybaxy · « **Reply #1786 on:** April 12, 2013, 08:12:52 PM »

Me

played glockenspiel, timpanis and kit

know all my key sigs and write music as well, its a lot better understanding melodies and knowing whats going on than just 'hitting things'

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1787 on:** April 12, 2013, 09:12:39 PM »

I play drums, guitar, piano and did a degree in Music.

I know my C#m7b5 from my Db7b9

Due to this : I heard The Silent Man today and could instantly play the first 5 chords without needing to work them out.

I love when that happens

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #1788 on:** April 13, 2013, 04:11:54 AM »

Quote from: aprilethereal on April 12, 2013, 03:44:21 AM

I know most people might disagree, but Train Of Thought is "properly awesome music"

I won't disagree with that.

Captain Reddot · « **Reply #1789 on:** April 13, 2013, 08:24:49 AM »

Quote from: DebraKadabra on April 13, 2013, 04:11:54 AM

Quote from: aprilethereal on April 12, 2013, 03:44:21 AM
I know most people might disagree, but Train Of Thought is "properly awesome music"

I won't disagree with that.

I didn't mean to imply that it wasn't. It's just that, if they can churn that out in however many weeks it took to write, and they've taken a bit longer with this one, it's a good sign, right?

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1790 on:** April 13, 2013, 08:27:14 AM »

It may be a good sign but I think ADToE took a about the same time ?

Not saying ADToE was bad or anything but don't expect SDOIT part 2 just yet

aprilethereal · « **Reply #1791 on:** April 13, 2013, 08:51:13 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on April 13, 2013, 08:27:14 AM

It may be a good sign but I think ADToE took a about the same time ?

Not saying ADToE was bad or anything but don't expect SDOIT part 2 just yet

ADTOE > SDOIT

I don't think I would be happy with a SDOIT part 2

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1792 on:** April 13, 2013, 08:52:45 AM »

Quote from: aprilethereal on April 13, 2013, 08:51:13 AM

Quote from: Kotowboy on April 13, 2013, 08:27:14 AM
It may be a good sign but I think ADToE took a about the same time ?

Not saying ADToE was bad or anything but don't expect SDOIT part 2 just yet
ADTOE > SDOIT

SDOIT so thoroughly outclasses ADTOE on every level that it's not even funny.

? · « **Reply #1793 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:01:30 AM »

ADTOE isn't too long, Six Degrees is (not much, but still)

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1794 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:04:48 AM »

Well it is a double album so......

? · « **Reply #1795 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:08:03 AM »

That's exactly what I meant - if it had been trimmed down to fit a single disc, the album would've been more solid and compact with little to no filler (IMO).

*puts flameshield on*

Zydar · « **Reply #1796 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:08:36 AM »

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1797 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:14:23 AM »

I've thought that about other double disks, (Beatles The While Album---sorry Zy!) But I looked as the second disk as one song or another album. Maybe I had my DT colored glasses on but I get where you're coming from ?

Zydar · « **Reply #1798 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:15:43 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on April 13, 2013, 09:14:23 AM

I've thought that about other double disks, (Beatles The While Album---sorry Zy!)

No I agree with you here. I love the Beatles, but the White Album could use some trimming and become a greater single disc.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1799 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:24:27 AM »

Biffy Clyro's new album will fit on a single disc.

wasteland · « **Reply #1800 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:37:35 AM »

I am on ?'s side here, SDOIT would have highly benefitted from a slight trim, like you know, taking TGP out, or cutting out half of the suite.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1801 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:45:04 AM »

TGP and SDOIT are DT's two best songs, you silly silly man. There is no track that you could cut from SDOIT. I'm glad they didn't have to fit it on one disc, because it would have missed out for it.
Meanwhile, I could happily cut half of ADTOE from existence and not miss it at all.

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1802 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:46:45 AM »

*joins the SDOIT army*

? · « **Reply #1803 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:47:14 AM »

Quote from: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 09:37:35 AM

SDOIT would have highly benefitted from a slight trim, like you know, ~~taking TGP out, or~~ cutting out half of the suite.

Now we are in agreement

Maybe the outro of Misunderstood could've been shortened as well - the guitar noise is kinda cool, but not an important part, and I hate the keyboard sounds in that section. It could've been a 100% excellent 7-minute song if the outro from the edit version had been used instead.

wasteland · « **Reply #1804 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:52:13 AM »

It could have rivaled with IAW and Awake with a similar tracklist, IMO:

1. The Great Debate
2. Blind Faith
3. Misunderstood
4. Disappear
5. Three Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1805 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:55:14 AM »

Thou shalt not touch The Glass Prison.

aprilethereal · « **Reply #1806 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:56:01 AM »

I realise I'm the only one who thinks SDOIT is overrated. It's great, but (IMO) nothing more.

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on April 13, 2013, 09:55:14 AM

Thou shalt not touch The Glass Prison.

Right.

? · « **Reply #1807 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:58:06 AM »

Quote from: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 09:52:13 AM

It could have rivaled with IAW and Awake with a similar tracklist, IMO:

1. The Great Debate
2. Blind Faith
3. Misunderstood
4. Disappear
5. Three Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

I don't agree with you on the tracklist because of the lack of TGP, but it's true that 6D would've had a lot of potential to rival Awake and I&W if it had been a single disc. Now it's just 6th (nuggetz!) in my ranking and probably won't go up.

orcus116 · « **Reply #1808 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:58:16 AM »

Quote from: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 09:52:13 AM

It could have rivaled with IAW and Awake with a similar tracklist, IMO:

1. The Great Debate
2. Blind Faith
3. Misunderstood
4. Disappear
5. Three Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

That is a seriously deflated version of SDOIT. I may be able to speak for a few people in saying that without TGP, I would not have discovered DT or held any initial interest.

aprilethereal · « **Reply #1809 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:00:02 AM »

TGP is easily top 10 material.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1810 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:01:56 AM »

Quote from: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 09:52:13 AM

It could have rivaled with IAW and Awake with a similar tracklist, IMO:

1. The Great Debate
2. Blind Faith
3. Misunderstood
4. Disappear
5. Three Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

It already beats both as is, imo. Even our most recent best album poll would agree, actually.

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on April 13, 2013, 09:46:45 AM

*joins the SDOIT army*

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #1811 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:04:11 AM »

Yeah, I was really positively surprised at that poll. The only reason why SDOIT is not my top DT album is because IAW and Awake are way too good for anything to ever surpass them. But I adore SDOIT, it's got a lot of things going, and 90% of them are absolutely awesome.

? · « **Reply #1812 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:04:43 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2013, 10:01:56 AM

It already beats both as is, imo. Even our most recent best album poll would agree, actually.

Sorry, but:

Quote

Images and Words
27 (22%)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
27 (22%)

wasteland · « **Reply #1813 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:06:44 AM »

Those polls (if you are hinting at the tournament) should not be taken into accounts when it comes to ranking albums, as inner matches were casually (and not uniformly) distributed.

I agree that TGP is a landmark song, and one that effectively was the manifesto of a whole age for the band as well as for the album itself... it's just that I can't stomach it. I tried several times in the past few years, but it's only a few cool candies floating in a paste of hate or indifference

? · « **Reply #1814 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:10:08 AM »

Quote from: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 10:06:44 AM

Those polls (if you are hinting at the tournament) should not be taken into accounts when it comes to ranking albums, as inner matches were casually (and not uniformly) distributed.

I took it from the latest "favorite DT album" poll, so it should be representative. Too bad the increase at 6D's popularity has happened at the expense of Awake $:-\$

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1815 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:22:47 AM »

Quote from: ? on April 13, 2013, 10:04:43 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2013, 10:01:56 AM
It already beats both as is, imo. Even our most recent best album poll would agree, actually.
Sorry, but:
Quote
Images and Words
27 (22%)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
27 (22%)

Oh right, IaW caught up. So SDOIT is merely as good as IaW.

Quote from: ? on April 13, 2013, 10:10:08 AM

Quote from: wasteland on April 13, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
Those polls (if you are hinting at the tournament) should not be taken into accounts when it comes to ranking albums, as inner matches were casually (and not uniformly) distributed.
I took it from the latest "favorite DT album" poll, so it should be representative. Too bad the increase at 6D's popularity has happened at the expense of Awake $:-\$

SDOIT is miles better than Awake anyway.

? · « **Reply #1816 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:34:26 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2013, 10:22:47 AM

SDOIT is miles better than Awake anyway.

wasteland · « **Reply #1817 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:36:50 AM »

Why don't we just revert back to talking about the new album?

Two years ago, if I remember correctly, the first festival dates of the summer tour were confirmed as early as December-January. It's obvious that the same didn't happen this time. Why do you think this might be?

TheAtliator · « **Reply #1818 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:40:12 AM »

Yea we're already half way through April. When is the latest they would announce a show in early July?

? · « **Reply #1819 on:** April 13, 2013, 10:40:33 AM »

Maybe they'll focus on headlining shows this time, or perhaps the festivals they'll play at will be in late summer?

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