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« Reply #10395 on: November 13, 2020, 07:16:14 AM »
I like the medleys of other band’s songs (like the Big Medley) and Instrumedley is really well constructed for a 12 minute “look what we can do” part of the concert. I’m not a fan of Schmedley Wilcox. Any one of those songs on their own would have been a more satisfying show closer.
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« Reply #10396 on: November 13, 2020, 10:08:36 AM »
Today I came across Stained Glass bootleg which from 98 FII tour.
https://youtu.be/TfIejrYCqWM

I don't understand why DT stopped doing this unplugged concept. In this bootleg James sounds amazing. I hope in the near future they'll give a shot.
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« Reply #10397 on: November 13, 2020, 10:24:01 AM »
Today I came across Stained Glass bootleg which from 98 FII tour.
https://youtu.be/TfIejrYCqWM

I don't understand why DT stopped doing this unplugged concept. In this bootleg James sounds amazing. I hope in the near future they'll give a shot.

It's not like it was a regular thing.
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« Reply #10398 on: November 13, 2020, 12:21:04 PM »
Who said it was a regular thing? It is what they did from time to time in the past and I hope they'll do it again at least once.
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« Reply #10399 on: November 13, 2020, 01:06:02 PM »
They had an acoustic segment of the show for the ADTOE tour, and it was different and very cool for them to do. It's more likely they bring back that kind of element than the full unplugged show format.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #10400 on: November 13, 2020, 01:21:34 PM »
Who said it was a regular thing? It is what they did from time to time in the past and I hope they'll do it again at least once.

Writing "I don't understand why DT stopped doing this unplugged concept" implies that it was something more than a one-off thing.
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« Reply #10401 on: November 15, 2020, 09:40:18 PM »
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« Reply #10402 on: November 21, 2020, 04:59:02 PM »
Dunno if i've said this already but...


.. Dream Theater are a far superior band to RUSH.

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« Reply #10403 on: November 21, 2020, 06:04:30 PM »
.. Dream Theater are a far superior band to RUSH.

I completely agree, but I'm not sure someone like JP would say the same :lol
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #10404 on: November 21, 2020, 08:08:04 PM »
Are they superior to Rush in some ways? Sure. But the same can be said the other way around, too. And DT *far* superior to Rush? I think not.
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« Reply #10405 on: November 21, 2020, 08:08:53 PM »
Are they superior to Rush in some ways? Sure. But the same can be said the other way around, too. And DT *far* superior to Rush? I think not.

Yeah, that's a far cry. :neverusethis:
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #10406 on: November 22, 2020, 09:44:47 AM »
Dunno if i've said this already but...


.. Dream Theater are a far superior band to RUSH.

NOT!   
Rush only had three people putting out just as big of a sound as DT.   Sure, John Petrucci is a superior guitar player than Alex, but Alex's creativity and sound make up for it.  Jordan is a real pianist and keyboard player and Geddy uses them for more soundscapes, but he also sings and plays complex bass lines at the same time. Neither Portnoy or Mangini are superior to Neil Peart in any way.
I'm sure DT are more accomplished musicians as a whole, but Rush is just as much of a powerhouse band as DT but with only three members.
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« Reply #10407 on: November 22, 2020, 01:57:30 PM »
Dunno if i've said this already but...


.. Dream Theater are a far superior band to RUSH.
Nice.

I like DT far more, but in the overall impact they had on the music scene as a whole they will always be miles ahead of DT.

But then again, I enjoy DT's music much more but that's just a matter of taste. I love Rush, but if I could only take the discography of either to a desert island to live for the rest of my days I'd take DT in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #10408 on: November 22, 2020, 03:42:06 PM »
Dunno if i've said this already but...


.. Dream Theater are a far superior band to RUSH.
Nice.



 I love Rush, but if I could only take the discography of either to a desert island to live for the rest of my days I'd take DT in a heartbeat.
Dang,  that would be a tough choice as both are my favorite bands. 🤔
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« Reply #10409 on: November 22, 2020, 03:44:23 PM »
Are they superior to Rush in some ways? Sure. But the same can be said the other way around, too. And DT *far* superior to Rush? I think not.

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« Reply #10410 on: November 23, 2020, 01:59:45 AM »
Let me just say that I've not heard a single RUSH song that's made me go " Ahhhh. Now I get it ".


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« Reply #10411 on: November 23, 2020, 03:18:55 AM »
Today I came across Stained Glass bootleg which from 98 FII tour.
https://youtu.be/TfIejrYCqWM

I don't understand why DT stopped doing this unplugged concept. In this bootleg James sounds amazing. I hope in the near future they'll give a shot.

What a great show!

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« Reply #10412 on: November 23, 2020, 03:36:00 AM »
Let me just say that I've not heard a single RUSH song that's made me go " Ahhhh. Now I get it ".
Then you probably never will.  ;D
I've heard a few people say the same thing about Dream Theater. 
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« Reply #10413 on: November 23, 2020, 06:02:24 AM »
Rush decided to make pop rock for 15 years, which to me is the biggest tipping point.

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« Reply #10414 on: November 23, 2020, 02:50:34 PM »
Let me just say that I've not heard a single RUSH song that's made me go " Ahhhh. Now I get it ".

Have you heard all their albums from 1976-1982?
If so, then not much else you can do.

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« Reply #10415 on: November 24, 2020, 02:39:02 PM »
Let me just say that I've not heard a single RUSH song that's made me go " Ahhhh. Now I get it ".
Then you probably never will.  ;D


Not true. Happened to me about 7 years ago. Thankfully just in time to catch them on their last tour. I still don't worship them. In some ways I feel they're like Iron Maiden. Excellent band. Legends? Absolutely. Are there better bands out there? Yes, many.

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« Reply #10416 on: November 24, 2020, 03:23:36 PM »
Let me just say that I've not heard a single RUSH song that's made me go " Ahhhh. Now I get it ".
Then you probably never will.  ;D
Not true. Happened to me about 7 years ago. Thankfully just in time to catch them on their last tour. I still don't worship them. In some ways I feel they're like Iron Maiden. Excellent band. Legends? Absolutely. Are there better bands out there? Yes, many.
Good to know. What finally made them "click" for you?
As a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.