Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[Implode]

The song titles are arguably the most important aspect of the song for me. I've still never listened to Hell's Kitchen, The Count of Tuscany, and The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun. I just can't enjoy a song with a stupid title.

I dislike titles that I think are dumb as much as the next guy, but you're missing out, friend.

[BlobVanDam]

I am assuming and hoping that XBOXBX's comment was sarcastic.

[Ruba]

I've got one:
DTXII is the worst RR album.

Hard to decide. Maybe I enjoy it a tiny bit more than BC&SL.

[425]

The song titles are arguably the most important aspect of the song for me. I've still never listened to Hell's Kitchen, The Count of Tuscany, and The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun. I just can't enjoy a song with a stupid title.

Also those are all great titles.

[Lucidity]

SC and Black Clouds are both amazing, perfect albums. You all have bad taste.

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The song titles are arguably the most important aspect of the song for me. I've still never listened to Hell's Kitchen, The Count of Tuscany, and The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun. I just can't enjoy a song with a stupid title.

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I'd like this to be explained...

I've got one:
DTXII is the worst RR album.

And I agree with this.

[Grizz]

I've got one:
DTXII is the worst RR album.

Hard to decide. Maybe I enjoy it a tiny bit more than BC&SL.

TBF it's a toss up between that and ADTOE for the best.
Nostalgia plays a huge factor there (yes, I'm aware that it's only been four years, but I was in fifth grade when BC&SL came out, now a high school sophomore).

[aprilethereal]

The albums:

DT12
ADTOE

SC






BC&SL

[Zook]

The albums:

DT12
ADTOE

SC






BC&SL

Yep.

[Zook]

I've got one:
DTXII is the worst RR album.

Hard to decide. Maybe I enjoy it a tiny bit more than BC&SL.

TBF it's a toss up between that and ADTOE for the best.
Nostalgia plays a huge factor there (yes, I'm aware that it's only been four years, but I was in fifth grade when BC&SL came out, now a high school sophomore).

5th grade?!

I'm so old...

[Bolsters]

SC and Black Clouds are both amazing, perfect albums. You all have bad taste.

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The song titles are arguably the most important aspect of the song for me. I've still never listened to Hell's Kitchen, The Count of Tuscany, and The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun. I just can't enjoy a song with a stupid title.

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I'd like this to be explained...

Dude's just a troll looking to get a rise out of people. There's this post from another thread:

How on earth can people think WDaDU is a better album than one containing ANtR and TCoT?

One post outright says Bob hasn't listened to the song, but then another implies Bob likes the song. And the post implying that he has listened to TCOT was posted first. Completely contradictory.

Then, there's these four posts, again contradictory, that were all posted on the same day a few weeks ago in three different threads. I've posted them here in chronological order, too.

I'm shocked there are this many people disliking the album. It's rare I get chills on my first time through an album, but it happened to me multiple times. I'm genuinely surprised people that post on a DT fan forum can dislike this album. I'm even more surprised to see comments like "oh, more crappy modern DT, guess I'm done listening to this band." In my opinion, the past 2 albums are so consistent and so breathtaking, they can be compared against ANY DT album.

10/10 album.

Listened to album, likes it a lot. 10/10

The past 4 albums (including DT12) is the best 4 album run in Dream Theater history.

Really likes the last few albums, including DT12.

DT12 absolutely crushes Awake.

Okay, Bob must like DT12 and/or not like Awake that much. Definitely thinks DT12 is better than Awake, right? But then posts this in the DT12 thread:

Okay guys, I'm halfway through my first listen of the album, and I can now say that it is the worst DT album ever recorded, by far.

Remember, I said I'd post these in chronological order. Three hours after the first post praising DT12, he's now he's only half way through the first listen, and it's the worst thing they've ever done. Even if someone's opinion changed that quickly, why was he making those other posts about it being so great if he wasn't even half way through it yet?

I can't be bothered going back through more of his posts, all this is just in the first page of results. He's definitely posted more flamebait than just these posts, though.

[Zook]

In other words:

Go home XBOBX, you're drunk.

[Sycsa]

Had enough of the RROD, going with PS4 this time.

[The King in Crimson]

Had enough of the RROD, going with PS4 this time.

RROD, still better than Raw Dog.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I'm so confused.

[j]

I don't know how controversial this is, but Petrucci's best solo ever is Lines in the Sand (with that one live show--Bucharest or somewhere--being slightly superior to the studio version).  Despite having a ton of great solos, nothing else even comes close.

-J

[gmillerdrake]

I don't know how controversial this is, but Petrucci's best solo ever is Lines in the Sand (with that one live show--Bucharest or somewhere--being slightly superior to the studio version).  Despite having a ton of great solos, nothing else even comes close.

-J

That is a phenomenal solo. If you watched the YouTube chat orchestrated by Bosk1 and Wey, Petrucci recalled that solo as either his favorite or one of his favorites to play.

[BlobVanDam]

I don't know how controversial this is, but Petrucci's best solo ever is Lines in the Sand (with that one live show--Bucharest or somewhere--being slightly superior to the studio version).  Despite having a ton of great solos, nothing else even comes close.

-J

I don't think it's controversial to consider that his best solo. It's definitely among his best, although I wouldn't say nothing else comes close. JP has a very consistently high standard for his solos.

[?]

The solo in LITS recently won the "favorite DT moment" thing in the P/S side so it's not controversial to love it

[XB0BX]

Remember, I said I'd post these in chronological order. Three hours after the first post praising DT12, he's now he's only half way through the first listen, and it's the worst thing they've ever done. Even if someone's opinion changed that quickly, why was he making those other posts about it being so great if he wasn't even half way through it yet?

You got me. I was clearly just posting these things to ruin people's days. I've definitely never posted any sarcastic messages to prove a point and/or lighten the mood of a thread. I've been found out. I apologize profusely.

[Outcrier]

[CharlieDominietzsche]

I think Falling Into Infinity is underrated. Granted, it could have been better (I might have replaced You Not Me and Burning My Soul with Raise The Knife and Cover My Eyes respectively) but it's still a very solid album, and New Millennium, Lines In The Sand, and Trial Of Tears are among Dream Theater's best material.

[Elite]

I think the username of the poster above me is outstandingly good.

[Podaar]

I think the username of the poster above me is outstandingly good.

"Prog is dead."

[Elite]

I think the username of the poster above me is outstandingly good.

"Prog is dead."

Best post I've seen in a long time!!

[Podaar]

o/

[Scorpion]

Nice one Podaar. Sorry Rich, but that was so epic that I have to intercept that.

*\o

[Lucidity]

New Millennium, Lines In The Sand, and Trial Of Tears are among Dream Theater's best material.

[BlobVanDam]

I think Falling Into Infinity is underrated. Granted, it could have been better (I might have replaced You Not Me and Burning My Soul with Raise The Knife and Cover My Eyes respectively) but it's still a very solid album, and New Millennium, Lines In The Sand, and Trial Of Tears are among Dream Theater's best material.

That's not too controversial. FII isn't generally regarded too highly, but it's not hated that much, I don't think.
I personally rank it 4th. Take off YNM and TAMP (I don't want any of the off-cuts on there at all), and it's a legit contender against IaW for 3rd place for me.

[Kotowboy]

FII has Lines in the Sand & Trial of Tears, Hollow Years, Hell's Kitchen amongst others.

[Zook]

Take Away My Pain is one of the best songs on Falling Into Infinity.

[?]

I think the username of the poster above me is outstandingly good.

"Prog is dead."

[aprilethereal]

FII has Lines in the Sand & Trial of Tears, Hollow Years, Hell's Kitchen amongst others.

and Peruvian Skies
and Anna Lee
and some great demos.

[Grizz]

Not sure how controversial this is, but I dump my random opinions here.

The very minor 2009/2010 variation of The Mirror with a heaver variation of the four bar phrase directly before the keyboard played in between the two drastically improves the cohesion of the song.

[rumborak]

Listened to DT12 today, and TEM ended up on the "skip list". Once JR's solo kicked in I got pulled out of my mental work zone and thought "wow, this is dreadful". Clicked skip.

[xfirehurricane]

Hey, new here, but 20+ year fan.

SDOIT - In-cohesive, should have been four great 10 minute songs. Solitary Shell best song on album but gets to second chorus then dead. had potential to be so much more.

Derek's keyboard style was great.

Stopped listening to DT after SC. Everything was cringe worthy except Forsaken. ADTOE brought me back from the edge and got me excited about the band again. Top 4 album for me.

I like Space Dye Vest and the Mind Beside Itself Trilogy; the rest of Awake I can skip. Hate the cold reverb permeating the keys and vox throughout.

Although the snare needs more snap, I actually like the drums sounds and panning on DT12.