Author Topic: Your Controversial Opinions on DT  (Read 1000629 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ?

  • Apparently the best username
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 11742
  • Gender: Male
  • Less=Moore, Even Less=Wilson
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1050 on: August 09, 2013, 09:46:47 AM »

Offline krieger

  • Posts: 125
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1051 on: August 09, 2013, 05:49:22 PM »
Portnoy just has stayed in DT for this long because he wanted to finish the Twelve-step Suite. As soon as it was done, he did a tour and then the band should call it's day (this part did not work out). Nothing else to say and all that.

Second part of the controversial opinion: five years later he would regroup the band to do a worldwide tour to play just the Twelve-step Suite (and 2 or 3 other songs), and release a live album. Or maybe a "best of" - with just the songs from the suite.

"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign then it's only a matter of time."

Offline dragonmaster715

  • Posts: 44
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1052 on: August 10, 2013, 09:13:07 AM »
ive got a phew things

SC is underrated, one of my favorite DT albums, SC>IAW
i dont like IAW nearly as much as most people do, the only songs on it i really like are pull me under and metropolis pt 2
pull me under is good but not nearly DT's best song
the ministry of lost souls is one of my fav DT songs, top 10

 :huh:

It's obviously just a typo..

Correct, just a typo lol, i meant metropolis pt 1

Offline Shadow Ninja 2.0

  • Heir Transparent
  • Posts: 7674
  • Gender: Male
  • Transcribing Existence Rivets
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1053 on: August 10, 2013, 09:14:52 AM »
Portnoy just has stayed in DT for this long because he wanted to finish the Twelve-step Suite. As soon as it was done, he did a tour and then the band should call it's day (this part did not work out). Nothing else to say and all that.

Second part of the controversial opinion: five years later he would regroup the band to do a worldwide tour to play just the Twelve-step Suite (and 2 or 3 other songs), and release a live album. Or maybe a "best of" - with just the songs from the suite.

I don't agree with any of this.

But you have a Chroma Key avatar. What to do, what to do.

Offline TheGreatPretender

  • The Second Dancing Turtle
  • Posts: 6981
  • Gender: Male
  • You are reading these words.
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1054 on: August 10, 2013, 09:17:51 AM »
Portnoy just has stayed in DT for this long because he wanted to finish the Twelve-step Suite. As soon as it was done, he did a tour and then the band should call it's day (this part did not work out). Nothing else to say and all that.

Second part of the controversial opinion: five years later he would regroup the band to do a worldwide tour to play just the Twelve-step Suite (and 2 or 3 other songs), and release a live album. Or maybe a "best of" - with just the songs from the suite.

Technically, it's more of a theory than an opinion.
"How's that for a slice of fried gold?"

Offline krieger

  • Posts: 125
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1055 on: August 10, 2013, 10:32:03 AM »
I agree the second part is quite stupid...  ;D (but possible)

But I believe in the first part!  :corn
"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign then it's only a matter of time."

Offline wasteland

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 8013
  • Gender: Male
  • Jay Beckenstein was in Spyro Gyra, right?
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1056 on: August 10, 2013, 10:34:34 AM »
I agree the second part is quite stupid...  ;D (but possible)

But I believe in the first part!  :corn

I disagree with the first theory and I think the second is utter madness, but the reason behind this post of mine is complimenting you on your very good avatar  :tup
:slayer: Somewhere, over the wasteland..... bootlegs fly :slayer:
MoraWintersoul is the BEST person.
- Marco

Offline krieger

  • Posts: 125
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1057 on: August 10, 2013, 10:44:40 AM »
Saved by Moore! Again!  :hefdaddy

But aren't the most incrongruous opinions the funniest?  :biggrin:

EDIT:

So let me give you some controversial OPINION, and not some paranoic theory:

Charlie Dominici first album - 03 trilogy part one - is amazing, it is better than WDADU, SC, 8VM, 6DoIT, etc.

 :hat
"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign then it's only a matter of time."

Offline ?

  • Apparently the best username
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 11742
  • Gender: Male
  • Less=Moore, Even Less=Wilson
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1058 on: August 10, 2013, 10:57:57 AM »
Saved by Moore! Again!  :hefdaddy
Well, he offered everyone Salvation on Graveyard Mountain Home :D

(your avatar rules! :tup)

Offline Shadow Ninja 2.0

  • Heir Transparent
  • Posts: 7674
  • Gender: Male
  • Transcribing Existence Rivets
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1059 on: August 10, 2013, 10:59:48 AM »
So let me give you some controversial OPINION, and not some paranoic theory:

Charlie Dominici first album - 03 trilogy part one - is amazing, it is better than WDADU, SC, 8VM, 6DoIT, etc.

Hmm, I've only heard Part 3, but it's really good. Not sure that I'd rank it over many DT albums though.

Offline krieger

  • Posts: 125
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1060 on: August 10, 2013, 11:19:59 AM »
Hmm, I've only heard Part 3, but it's really good. Not sure that I'd rank it over many DT albums though.

It is good, isn't it? I was really impressed! It seems everyone who spent some time at DTLand has some magic in him.

The first album is just vocal + acoustic guitar, but it has some very good lyrics (better than part 2 or 3), and he is quite good playing. The album reminds me something of Springsteen's Nebraska.
"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign then it's only a matter of time."

Offline FourthHorseman

  • Posts: 92
  • Gender: Male
  • Cultivating my own nonsense
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1061 on: August 10, 2013, 04:29:05 PM »
Panic Attack and This Dying Soul are top tier DT metal songs.

Offline Shadow Ninja 2.0

  • Heir Transparent
  • Posts: 7674
  • Gender: Male
  • Transcribing Existence Rivets
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1062 on: August 10, 2013, 04:29:59 PM »
I do not disagree with that.

Offline Rattlehead

  • Posts: 2288
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1063 on: August 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM »
I agree with TDS, but not PA at all. I thought it was more controversial to dislike PA than it is to like it personally.

Offline Shadow Ninja 2.0

  • Heir Transparent
  • Posts: 7674
  • Gender: Male
  • Transcribing Existence Rivets
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1064 on: August 10, 2013, 04:59:57 PM »
A lot of people seem to dislike Panic Attack. :dunno:

Offline Polis

  • Posts: 108
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1065 on: August 10, 2013, 05:13:23 PM »
I find SFAM very difficult to listen to now. I used to be obsessed with it, like most of you guys.

Offline Bolsters

  • Lost Boy
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5491
  • Gender: Male
  • What a hell of a day to embrace disorder
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1066 on: August 10, 2013, 10:11:46 PM »
Panic Attack and This Dying Soul are top tier DT metal songs.
Yeah, they're both awesome. :2metal:

Offline wolven74

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 785
  • Gender: Male
  • My body is not well
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1067 on: August 10, 2013, 10:24:23 PM »
The more I hear it, the more I realize that TEI has absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Everything is immaterial. Do you know that reality is immaterial? This is not reality.
In what friggin' universe is a 68 minute long album "short"?

Offline FourthHorseman

  • Posts: 92
  • Gender: Male
  • Cultivating my own nonsense
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1068 on: August 10, 2013, 10:36:28 PM »
I find SFAM very difficult to listen to now. I used to be obsessed with it, like most of you guys.

The lyrics almost ruin it for me, save Home and The Spirit Carries On.

Offline Yoshi Yogurt

  • Posts: 43
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1069 on: August 10, 2013, 10:45:58 PM »
I&W is junk, along with Awake
Systematic Chaos is their best album, Forsaken the best song
Erotomania is their worst instrumental, SOC being the best
New Millenium and You Not Me are the best from FII
TDEN lyrics rocks
Repentance is the best song from the 12 step suite
SFAM doesnt catch my attention
Octavarium is better than ACOS

Dear God... :(

Offline TheGreatPretender

  • The Second Dancing Turtle
  • Posts: 6981
  • Gender: Male
  • You are reading these words.
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1070 on: August 11, 2013, 12:57:14 AM »
I agree with the Erotomania comment. And the Octavarium comment.
"How's that for a slice of fried gold?"

Offline Kotowboy

  • Yes THAT Kotowboy.
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 28561
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1071 on: August 11, 2013, 01:49:33 AM »
Yes. Octavarium is so superior to A Change Of Seasons it's not funny.

Offline Kotowboy

  • Yes THAT Kotowboy.
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 28561
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1072 on: August 11, 2013, 01:50:49 AM »
A lot of people seem to dislike Panic Attack. :dunno:

I like it.  Never Enough is worse. I'm surprised LaBrie didn't gasp between every line to really seal the deal.

Offline aprilethereal

  • Posts: 3746
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1073 on: August 11, 2013, 04:33:51 AM »
Never Enough is great, the instrumental section is plain awesome. And I like the lyrics.

After two years of SFAM obsession, Finally Free might be my new favourite from that album, superseding Home (not sure if that's controversial at all).

Offline Cable

  • Posts: 1513
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1074 on: August 11, 2013, 06:53:27 AM »

Erotomania is their worst instrumental, SOC being the best
New Millennium and You Not Me are the best from FII



I'll take these two things. I never got what is so great about Erotomania. I thought I heard SOC repeats too much; Erotomania does that to me; the chromatic riff does not a whole lot for me.

NM was the song that really got me into DT. Thus, it is prob my fav from FII.
---

Offline Jaq

  • Posts: 4050
  • Gender: Male
  • Favorite song by Europe: Carrie.
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1075 on: August 11, 2013, 10:08:02 AM »
The Enemy Inside's mix and master is perfectly fine.

 :P
The bones of beasts and the bones of kings become dust in the wake of the hymn.
Mighty kingdoms rise, but they all will fall, no more than a breath on the wind.

Offline Ruba

  • Posts: 4431
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1076 on: August 11, 2013, 10:52:29 AM »
Never Enough is great, the instrumental section is plain awesome. And I like the lyrics.

 :tup

Offline Lucidity

  • Posts: 938
  • Gender: Male
  • Patron Saint of Time Signatures
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1077 on: August 11, 2013, 10:54:43 AM »
Never Enough is great, the instrumental section is plain awesome. And I like the lyrics.

 :tup

Yes! Thank you!

Offline aprilethereal

  • Posts: 3746
  • Gender: Male
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1078 on: August 11, 2013, 11:38:01 AM »
:hifive:

Offline XB0BX

  • Posts: 512
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1079 on: August 11, 2013, 07:42:00 PM »
I have a lot of them:

-WDADU is full of amazing songs that are almost unlistenable due to the production
-SC is an amazing album, Constant Motion and Prophets of War are both amazing songs
-BC&SL is an amazing album as well, with no bad songs, and the 2 epics are both in contention for best DT songs
-Surrounded is a terrible song with no redeeming qualities, one of my least favorite DT songs
-Probably not controversial, but ADTOE is a perfect album, every song is legendary, and it MAY eventually pass I&W as my #1 DT album
-TEI is a VERY average song, and is infinitely inferior to OTBOA, which may be DT's best single ever
-Awake is an average album with a lot of songs I don't like, and not a single song I would consider a DT classic

I don't fit in here.

Offline Shadow Ninja 2.0

  • Heir Transparent
  • Posts: 7674
  • Gender: Male
  • Transcribing Existence Rivets
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1080 on: August 11, 2013, 07:43:55 PM »
I have a lot of them:

-WDADU is full of amazing songs that are almost unlistenable due to the production
-SC is an amazing album, Constant Motion and Prophets of War are both amazing songs
-BC&SL is an amazing album as well, with no bad songs, and the 2 epics are both in contention for best DT songs
-Surrounded is a terrible song with no redeeming qualities, one of my least favorite DT songs
-Probably not controversial, but ADTOE is a perfect album, every song is legendary, and it MAY eventually pass I&W as my #1 DT album
-TEI is a VERY average song, and is infinitely inferior to OTBOA, which may be DT's best single ever
-Awake is an average album with a lot of songs I don't like, and not a single song I would consider a DT classic

I don't fit in here.

These are the ones I violently disagree with.

Offline Grizz

  • Posts: 1666
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1081 on: August 11, 2013, 07:45:53 PM »
-WDADU is full of amazing songs that are almost unlistenable due to the production
-SC is an amazing album, Constant Motion and Prophets of War are both amazing songs
-BC&SL is an amazing album as well, with no bad songs, and the 2 epics are both in contention for best DT songs
-Surrounded is a terrible song with no redeeming qualities, one of my least favorite DT songs
-Probably not controversial, but ADTOE is a perfect album, every song is legendary, and it MAY eventually pass I&W as my #1 DT album
-TEI is a VERY average song, and is infinitely inferior to OTBOA, which may be DT's best single ever
-Awake is an average album with a lot of songs I don't like, and not a single song I would consider a DT classic

I don't fit in here.
Maybe Half Yes No No Yes Half Nobody does
"I raised the baby, I changed the baby's diapers.  Whenever the baby had projectile diarrhea, I was there in the line of fire.  I even got a little in my mouth!  I sacrificed so much for my baby.  Now my baby hates me and thinks Mike Mangini is its real father!"

Offline Zook

  • Evil Incarnate
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 14164
  • Gender: Male
  • Take My Hand
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1082 on: August 11, 2013, 08:23:23 PM »
-Surrounded is a terrible song with no redeeming qualities, one of my least favorite DT songs

 :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored

Offline Shadow Ninja 2.0

  • Heir Transparent
  • Posts: 7674
  • Gender: Male
  • Transcribing Existence Rivets
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1083 on: August 11, 2013, 08:24:08 PM »
^ This is the correct response.

Offline wolven74

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 785
  • Gender: Male
  • My body is not well
Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1084 on: August 11, 2013, 09:06:00 PM »
-Surrounded is a terrible song with no redeeming qualities, one of my least favorite DT songs

 :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored
:clap:
Everything is immaterial. Do you know that reality is immaterial? This is not reality.
In what friggin' universe is a 68 minute long album "short"?