Your Controversial Opinions on DT

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DebraKadabra

Quote from: Ruba on April 19, 2013, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: wasteland on April 19, 2013, 05:28:59 AM
So, what are the reasons of those who hate Innocence Faded? Anyone here?

No one hates Innocence Faded!

*sticks fingers in ears and sings Twinkle Twinkle little star very loud*

:lol

Zook

I still don't get Blob's hate for Scarred. It's heavy, intense, sung kickassedly by JLB, has a beautiful melodic section in the middle, a kick ass solo and outro. And LSOAD is a beautiful ballad. Space Dye Vest is just OK, but the other songs are amazing.

wasteland

I've given up understanding the hatred for Scarred. I will just never get it, and I was explained the reason for it by prominent haters (blob, zy) multiple times.  :millahhhh

Zook

I forgot to mention that it's fun as hell to sing along to.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Zook on April 19, 2013, 06:13:37 PM
I forgot to mention that it's fun as hell to sing along to.

That it is. And JLB agrees.

wasteland

Yeah! He recently stated that it is his favourite song to sing on stage!

RandalGraves

I'm happy Storm won't be doing the new album cover.

?

Quote from: wasteland on April 19, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
I've given up understanding the hatred for Scarred. I will just never get it, and I was explained the reason for it by prominent haters (blob, zy) multiple times.  :millahhhh
Same here.

MoraWintersoul


?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have done the new cover anyway...

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Zook on April 19, 2013, 11:34:27 AM
I still don't get Blob's hate for Scarred. It's heavy, intense, sung kickassedly by JLB, has a beautiful melodic section in the middle, a kick ass solo and outro. And LSOAD is a beautiful ballad. Space Dye Vest is just OK, but the other songs are amazing.

The chorus melody is so poor that it sounds like they just randomly went up and down the scale to write it, and the first phrase ends on a complete nowhere note that doesn't do anything. It's completely careless. And those church bells sound so misplaced and confused. It makes me wince every time I attempt to listen to it, like nails on a chalkboard to me.
And the outro is out of nowhere tacked on, and completely unnecessary, and tries to be all proggy for the sake of it, and loses all sense of melody and rhythm in the process.

I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces.


Quote from: ? on April 20, 2013, 05:46:47 AM
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have done the new cover anyway...

I agree. I really don't see them switching from Hugh Syme. He just recently did the Luna Park cover, so I'd be pretty sure he'll do DT12 too.

MoraWintersoul

I really like it that people hate Scarred because every time I see someone criticizing it, I feel the need to play it again and then I rock out like nobody's business :metal :biggrin:

wasteland

Yes, it's really a good time to give it a spin and loving it :biggrin:

MoraWintersoul

"it calms me to know that I WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T" :heart

ReaperKK

Quote from: RandalGraves on April 20, 2013, 05:31:15 AM
I'm happy Storm won't be doing the new album cover.

What!?!?! I always thought Storm would do an awesome cover if his was given half a chance.

I'm so tired of Hugh Syme's work on DT albums, it's so uninspired and comes off really lazy.

JayOctavarium

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 20, 2013, 06:03:25 AM
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces.
.

Even though your opinion is wrong I do not agree with you... this is amazing.

TheGreatPretender

Although a lot of people actually like scarred, so having a ton of people defending it isn't exactly controversial.

It took a long, long, long time for Scarred to grow on me, so I can understand why some people don't like it. And why some do.

DebraKadabra


Nekov

Quote from: ? on April 19, 2013, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
Regardless of comparisons to other albums, I don't see anything consistent about Octavarium.
Me neither.

I beg to differ. No matter how many times you listen to it, Octavarium will always suck. That's consistent

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: Nekov on April 22, 2013, 06:25:49 AM
Quote from: ? on April 19, 2013, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
Regardless of comparisons to other albums, I don't see anything consistent about Octavarium.
Me neither.

I beg to differ. No matter how many times you listen to it, Octavarium will always suck. That's consistent
:lol

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Nekov on April 22, 2013, 06:25:49 AM
Quote from: ? on April 19, 2013, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
Regardless of comparisons to other albums, I don't see anything consistent about Octavarium.
Me neither.

I beg to differ. No matter how many times you listen to it, Octavarium will always suck. That's consistent


eric42434224

I have always wondered what DT would have been like with a different style singer.
Maybe a singer that can play some rhythm guitar as well to fill in certain areas.
I have always felt that JLB and his style, even though he is great at what he does, has been a factor in their commercial success.
I had a dream Chris Cornell joined DT.  It was a good dream.

DebraKadabra


Lucien

(Most likely the most controversial post in the thread)

Octavarium is their best album (title track is their best song)

Stream of Consciousness is their best instrumental

BC&SL is better than SDOIT

The unreleased album will be better than the greatness of ADToE, BC&SL, and SC combined

The Root of All Evil is the best of the 12 step suite

Luna Park will be their greatest live DVD

Under A Glass Moon is the best song off I&W

FII is more listenable than ToT

The Killing Hand and Only A Matter of Time are amazing.

Hell's Kitchen is probably their 3rd-best instrumental. (dance of eternity is second)

6:00 is the best song on Awake

Hell's Kitchen/Trial of Tears are the best songs off FII

Breaking All Illusions is the best song off ADToE (and has the second most time signature changes in a DT song)

The unreleased album's instrumental will be the best one they've created

The unreleased album will be the best they've ever created

Zook

Claiming controversial opinions on things that haven't happened yet is kind of silly.

Lucien

Quote from: Zook on April 24, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
Claiming controversial opinions on things that haven't happened yet is kind of silly.

Controversial prediction?  :lol

Zook

It still doesn't make much sense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Zook on April 24, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
Claiming controversial opinions on things that haven't happened yet is kind of silly.

Yeah, it's not really an "opinion" as such when it's not based on something.

Not to mention that the last prediction would be pretty much impossible anyway.

Ruba

Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
Stream of Consciousness is their best instrumental

FII is more listenable than ToT

The Killing Hand and Only A Matter of Time are amazing.

These ones are true.

?

Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
The Root of All Evil is the best of the 12 step suite

The Killing Hand and Only A Matter of Time are amazing.

Hell's Kitchen/Trial of Tears are the best songs off FII
I would add Lines in the Sand to the list of best songs on FII, but otherwise I agree with these points.

aprilethereal

Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
Stream of Consciousness is their best instrumental
I would agree if Overture 1928 didn't exist.


Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
BC&SL is better than SDOIT
As a whole, possibly yes. As for individual songs, both have some amazing stuff, both have some pretty shitty stuff. So I'm not sure.


Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
Breaking All Illusions is the best song off ADToE
Tied with BITS, but yes.


Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
6:00 is the best song on Awake
I wouldn't say #1, but definitely one of the best.

Dublagent66

Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM

BC&SL is better than SDOIT


I think if you started a poll with those two albums to see which is better, SDOIT would win by a landslide.

KevShmev

Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM

Under A Glass Moon is the best song off I&W

6:00 is the best song on Awake


Why is Under a Glass Moon OFF Images and Words, but 6:00 is ON Awake? ??? ???



:biggrin:

?

Quote from: Dublagent66 on April 25, 2013, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: Lucien on April 24, 2013, 07:01:01 PM

BC&SL is better than SDOIT


I think if you started a poll with those two albums to see which is better, SDOIT would win by a landslide.
Yeah - ADTOE got 90% of the votes in the "ADTOE vs BC&SL" poll, so I bet Six Degrees would do just as well, if not better.

MoraWintersoul

Because 6:00 is ON ON ON like a bad bad thing :hat