Your Controversial Opinions on DT

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BlobVanDam

Quote from: Knguro on April 18, 2013, 09:38:44 AM
YOU KNOW WHAT?

ToT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awake.

Hell to the fucking yes. ITNOG alone >>>>> Awake.




Oh come on. Like you didn't all know I'd be agreeing with this one. :lol

Knguro

Quote from: Scorpion on April 18, 2013, 09:48:48 AM
Quote from: Knguro on April 18, 2013, 09:38:44 AM
YOU KNOW WHAT?

ToT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awake.

Hell to the fucking no. Train of Thought isn't bad, but Awake is a masterpiece.


humm what? dont think so!  :hat

You know what?

Octavarium > Awake.

Even the tittle sucks. :tdwn

Knguro

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 18, 2013, 09:56:28 AM
Quote from: Knguro on April 18, 2013, 09:38:44 AM
YOU KNOW WHAT?

ToT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awake.

Hell to the fucking yes. ITNOG alone >>>>> Awake.




Oh come on. Like you didn't all know I'd be agreeing with this one. :lol

My all time DT fav song!

TheGreatPretender

I think both ToT and Octavarium are much more consistent albums than Awake is. And Octavarium on the whole, gives a much better (probably the best) representation of just what incredible range Dream Theater has in terms of music.

Also, the title track is better than ACOS.

Tomislav95


Knguro


Knguro

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 18, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
I think both ToT and Octavarium are much more consistent albums than Awake is. And Octavarium on the whole, gives a much better (probably the best) representation of just what incredible range Dream Theater has in terms of music.

Also, the title track is better than ACOS.

Amen.

DebraKadabra


aprilethereal

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 18, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
I think both ToT and Octavarium are much more consistent albums than Awake is. And Octavarium on the whole, gives a much better (probably the best) representation of just what incredible range Dream Theater has in terms of music.

Also, the title track is better than ACOS.
:heart

Buddyhunter1


Sycsa

Quote from: ? on April 16, 2013, 09:59:44 PM
Oh, and the Blind Faith chorus rules!
This! It's the first thing that really grabbed me while listening to the song the first few times. I think that, along with Jordan's solos, it's the highlight of the song. Definitely one of my favorite choruses ever and it never fails to make me spread my arms while singing it facing the ceiling. The live version is a different story, of course.

GasparXR

Quote from: DebraKadabra on April 18, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 18, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
Also, the title track is better than ACOS.

Ayup.

I also agree! It's not by a WHOLE lot, but 8V definitely sparks more of an emotional reaction from me than ACOS does. ACOS is awesome though.

Lucidity

Quote from: tuto on April 17, 2013, 01:11:45 PM
I absolutely LOVE New Millennium, and I mean FUCKING LOVE IT  :metal

Agreed.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Lucidity on April 18, 2013, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: tuto on April 17, 2013, 01:11:45 PM
I absolutely LOVE New Millennium, and I mean FUCKING LOVE IT  :metal

Agreed.

I don't. But I dunno, I think it has a big enough following not to consider that very controversial.

Ruba


YtseJamittaja

Endless Sacrifice is my top5 DT songs. Haters gonna hate.

Sycsa



?


MoraWintersoul

Quote from: ? on April 19, 2013, 04:29:53 AM
Quote from: Tomislav95 on April 18, 2013, 10:24:10 AM
Awake>>>>>everything else
This man knows what's up! :tup
"Everything else" = "universe", yes.

I am just completely serious.

wasteland

Quote from: ? on April 19, 2013, 04:29:53 AM
Quote from: Tomislav95 on April 18, 2013, 10:24:10 AM
Awake>>>>>everything else
This man knows what's up! :tup

I can accept the > sign (I disagree, but not by far), but >>>>>>>> ? No way!

?

It's just a more extreme way of saying that Awake is easily the best, which is something I wholeheartedly agree with.

wasteland

You know my opinion about it, I guess.

So, what are the reasons of those who hate Innocence Faded? Anyone here?

The Curious Orange

Here's my controversial opinion -

Something is wrong in DT land.

If the Luna Park DVD is coming out in May (or anytime soon) we should have had a release date by now.

If the new album / tour routine is on schedule, we should have had the first European dates announced by now.

Nothing but silence from DT. Something is wrong.

Knguro

Quote from: The Curious Orange on April 19, 2013, 05:36:26 AM
Here's my controversial opinion -

Something is wrong in DT land.

If the Luna Park DVD is coming out in May (or anytime soon) we should have had a release date by now.

If the new album / tour routine is on schedule, we should have had the first European dates announced by now.

Nothing but silence from DT. Something is wrong.

Noup, just think about it.

Pre, production and post on new album
Pre on new tour.
Post on DVD.

That's a shit load of work to do... is pretty normal some silence while doing all this.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Ruba on April 19, 2013, 01:56:33 AM
Everything on Awake > ITNOG.

Everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lie, Scarred, and Space Dye Vest.

Not even exaggerating. I'll take YNM on repeat before any of those. As bad as it is, it's at least bearable.


COME AT ME BROS.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 18, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
I think both ToT and Octavarium are much more consistent albums than Awake is.
Regardless of comparisons to other albums, I don't see anything consistent about Octavarium.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Scorpion

Blob, what would you consider to be DT's single worst song?

Knguro

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 18, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
I think both ToT and Octavarium are much more consistent albums than Awake is.
Regardless of comparisons to other albums, I don't see anything consistent about Octavarium.

What? Hef, go home, you're drunk... hahahahah.. i love this thread.

aprilethereal

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 19, 2013, 08:20:35 AM
Quote from: Ruba on April 19, 2013, 01:56:33 AM
Everything on Awake > ITNOG.

Everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lie, Scarred, and Space Dye Vest.

Not even exaggerating. I'll take YNM on repeat before any of those. As bad as it is, it's at least bearable.


COME AT ME BROS.
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 18, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
I think both ToT and Octavarium are much more consistent albums than Awake is.
Regardless of comparisons to other albums, I don't see anything consistent about Octavarium.


These posts shock me  :omg:

?

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
Regardless of comparisons to other albums, I don't see anything consistent about Octavarium.
Me neither.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Scorpion on April 19, 2013, 08:33:43 AM
Blob, what would you consider to be DT's single worst song?

Below a certain threshold, it's hard for me to compare them and choose one over another, because I simply can't even listen to them. There are very few DT songs I put in that category though, as I don't mind a lot of the songs that others dislike, and for me DT have the highest hit ratio of any band I listen to.

The legitimate contenders for what I consider DT's worst song would include Status Seeker, Light Fuse and Get Away, The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun, Scarred, and Only a Matter of Time. But in all honesty, I'd probably place Only a Matter of Time slightly above them, because it's listenable despite being a flawed song from start to finish, and has some good ideas in there, and maybe Scarred too, because it has a decent enough intro up until the heavy section, or maybe even up till the chorus (which I honestly consider the worst "chorus" DT has ever written, excluding a couple of WDADU songs where I don't even know how the chorus goes).
I really do consider Scarred to be DT's worst song this side of WDADU. The only other song I'd consider a contender is Never Enough, but there's much more of that song I can enjoy, and when Octavarium came out, I listened to it. There are a few other DT songs that I consider to be on the bad side, but can still listen to occasionally and enjoy.

There are only a very small number of other DT songs I'd say I strongly dislike, but I don't put them anywhere near the bottom ones just mentioned. There are other songs I'm notorious for hating on, but my issues with those are much more minor compared to the ones mentioned, even songs like Lie or SDV. Lie is one of those songs that I can occasionally enjoy, and I'm more indifferent to SDV than anything else.

I hope that post doesn't come across as too "bashy", because I'm just trying to be clear with how I feel about certain songs.

Ruba

Quote from: wasteland on April 19, 2013, 05:28:59 AM
So, what are the reasons of those who hate Innocence Faded? Anyone here?

No one hates Innocence Faded!

*sticks fingers in ears and sings Twinkle Twinkle little star very loud*

Knguro

Quote from: Ruba on April 19, 2013, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: wasteland on April 19, 2013, 05:28:59 AM
So, what are the reasons of those who hate Innocence Faded? Anyone here?

No one hates Innocence Faded!

*sticks fingers in ears and sings Twinkle Twinkle little star very loud*
:rollin

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: wasteland on April 19, 2013, 05:28:59 AM
So, what are the reasons of those who hate Innocence Faded? Anyone here?
I don't hate it. in the grand scheme of music, I quite like it, but I still think that it, along with Lifting Shadows Off a Dream, are two of the least interesting songs on Awake, and among some of the least interesting songs in DT's entire catalog. There's nothing wrong with having a straight forward shorter song, lord knows DT's had its share, but IF just feels so... Wishy washy. I don't know. I'm not going to dissect it, to try and figure out specifically what I don't like about it. But as far as DT goes, the song has some nice melodies and that's it, everything else about it is a tad dull.