Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[robwebster]

Shush, that's entirely roblevel! Just wait for him to came and award you the Webster Award For Outstanding Post Writings and Topic Awareness.

You're so dead

No awards, but how would you like to become my official sidekick? It's a great job, we wear shit costumes as we swing from website to website, saving the internet from the tyranny of concise posts.

Wages are abysmal, but there are plenty of promotion opportunities.

[MoraWintersoul]

No awards, but how would you like to become my official sidekick? It's a great job, we wear shit costumes as we swing from website to website, saving the internet from the tyranny of concise posts.

[robwebster]

It's settled. Your leotard is in the post.

[GasparXR]

You guys.

That's like rob level there.

I don't think I've ever received a compliment on par with that

Honestly no one can touch rob-level but we can try. Thank you

If no-one can touch rob level, how does rob reach rob level?

I think rob is an alien. Not alien as in a banana in a grape factory, but alien like an unknown fruit from another planet in a grape factory.

[robwebster]

You guys.

That's like rob level there.

I don't think I've ever received a compliment on par with that

Honestly no one can touch rob-level but we can try. Thank you

If no-one can touch rob level, how does rob reach rob level?

No one can touch rob-level. I'm two people. My real names are Miranda and Clive. Hello!

No, honestly, it's a surprisingly tangible level.

[wasteland]

I think you just need to be underslept and slightly drunk to get to the levels of posting awesomeness rob can attein while sober at 11AM.

[GasparXR]

I think you just need to be underslept and slightly drunk to get to the levels of posting awesomeness rob can attein while sober at 11AM.

Does anyone want to pitch money for a texas mickey and stay up all night on DTF?

[snapple]

Octavarium is a forgettable song/album.

[Zook]

You're a forgettable song/album.

[jonnybaxy]

You're a forgettable song/album.

Oooohhh burn!!

[jsem]

Octavarium is a forgettable song/album.

Agree about the album in general. The song is magic though.

[ZKX-2099]

The Jews are evi..... oh opinions on Dream Theater.

[Sycsa]

The Jews are evi..... oh opinions on Dream Theater.

You could maybe make a case for Portnoy, but Jordan's a sweetheart. 

[?]

Bumping this in case someone has controversial opinions to share.

I know I said I love TOWHTSTS already, but now that my list is over, I can say more precisely that it's a top 20 song for me. And since there's a lot of discussion on Six Degrees going on in the "DT in the studio again" thread, I once again have to say that in my opinion WDADU > SDOIT

[Onno]

Bumping this in case someone has controversial opinions to share.

I know I said I love TOWHTSTS already, but now that my list is over, I can say more precisely that it's a top 20 song for me. And since there's a lot of discussion on Six Degrees going on in the "DT in the studio again" thread, I once again have to say that in my opinion WDADU > SDOIT

For me, it's the exact opposite. SDOIT is my favourite DT album where WDADU is my least favourite.

[BlobVanDam]

WDADU is DT's only truly awful album. SDOIT and WDADU are literally the complete opposite ends of DT's best/worst albums for me.


We're in the controversial opinion thread, so I'm covered for that for the 3 people that like WDADU.

[?]

I know no-one will agree with me It's not a huge difference in quality and Six Degrees has some absolutely amazing stuff, but I find it easier to sit through WDADU than to listen to 6D in full.

[champbassist]

I find the complicated bombast of SFAM too difficult to penetrate. It's my least favorite DT album.

[legenden1]

I have always thought it was incredible that You not me gets so much hate. I think it´s one of the best songs on FII and easily better than songs like Ytse jam, Blind faith, Just let me breathe, Dance of Eternity, The count of Tuscany and especially better than the demo version You or me.

[SuperTaco]

WDADU is my favorite album.
Octavarium is my favorite song.
FII is my least favorite album.
I think Prophets Of War is a great song.
Other than Repentance and TMOLS being too long, I think SC is a good album.
I probably like DT instrumentals more than most people. I would put Hell's Kitchen and SOC in my top 20.

[Rattlehead]

A Rite of Passage is a good song and would be somewhere in my top 40.

[SeRoX]

Elements Of Persuasions vocals are better than both SC and BC&SL. Plus, EoP's guitar playing is much more inspiring and creative than both SC and BC&SL or maybe even Octavarium. 

[Elite]

I have always thought it was incredible that You not me gets so much hate. I think it´s one of the best songs on FII and easily better than songs like Ytse jam, Blind faith, Just let me breathe, Dance of Eternity, The count of Tuscany and especially better than the demo version You or me.

You Not Me is a better song than any song on BC&SL, save Wither.

Yeah, go ahead, rape me, or whatever.

[SeRoX]

If you say Just Let Me Breathe or Burning My Soul instead of You Not Me I would gladly agree, save TCOT but like this: no way.

[aprilethereal]

Overture 1928 is by far the best DT instrumental.
Endless Sacrifice is a Top 5 song.
SDV is the best song on Awake. (Although the Mirror comes close).

Bumping this in case someone has controversial opinions to share.

I know I said I love TOWHTSTS already, but now that my list is over, I can say more precisely that it's a top 20 song for me. And since there's a lot of discussion on Six Degrees going on in the "DT in the studio again" thread, I once again have to say that in my opinion WDADU > SDOIT

SFAM > TOT > Awake > ADTOE > 8VM > SDOIT

SDOIT is not bad,  but not amazing either. IMO.

[JayOctavarium]

SFAM Alternate mix > Release mix

[BlobVanDam]

Elements Of Persuasions vocals are better than both SC and BC&SL. Plus, EoP's guitar playing is much more inspiring and creative than both SC and BC&SL or maybe even Octavarium. 

I Love EoP, and I love the gritty vocals, but they're really pitchy. JLB's vocals always sound really rough to me outside of DT projects, like he can't quite control his voice when he's given complete freedom to let loose. SC and BCASL both have better vocals imo. ITPOE and ANTR are both good examples of JLB singing controlled and melodic gritty vocals better than EoP.
And the guitar playing on EoP is just generic riffing in B, while SC and especially BCASL have some of JP's best guitar work. EoP does have some pretty good solos, but the keyboard solos are usually better.

[DebraKadabra]

Octavarium is better than ACOS

I'm definitely on board this train.

[aprilethereal]

Octavarium is better than ACOS

I'm definitely on board this train.

Agreed

[?]

SDV is the best song on Awake.

All this love for Octavarium makes it seem like ACOS > 8V is a controversial opinion

[Ruba]

I know no-one will agree with me It's not a huge difference in quality and Six Degrees has some absolutely amazing stuff, but I find it easier to sit through WDADU than to listen to 6D in full.

WDADU = no weak songs
SDOIT = Disappear has grown on me, but still it's only decent at best. SDOIT has enough good material for ~20 minutes, not for 42.

So yeah, I agree.

[?]

I don't like LF&GA, but otherwise I completely agree with you!

[BlobVanDam]

No weak songs on WDADU? How can anyone say that with a straight face? The best of WDADU doesn't even come close to the worst from SDOIT.
My controversial opinion is that WDADU should never have been released. It's an embarrassing album, especially when IaW could have made one of the best debut albums of all time.

[wasteland]

No weak songs on WDADU? How can anyone say that with a straight face? The best of WDADU doesn't even come close to the worst from SDOIT.
My controversial opinion is that WDADU should never have been released. It's an embarrassing album, especially when IaW could have made one of the best debut albums of all time.

Do you mean that they should have held those songs back instead of releasing them? Because there is no way in hell that they could have written IAW without the musical growth that they experienced in the WDADU era!

[?]

Do you mean that they should have held those songs back instead of releasing them? Because there is no way in hell that they could have written IAW without the musical growth that they experienced in the WDADU era!

This. Like it or not, WDADU was a necessary step towards I&W. And had they not released an album with Charlie, they wouldn't have realized that he wasn't the right singer for them and hired James after that. And even if they had started looking for a new singer, James was still the frontman for Winter Rose at the time and probably wouldn't have auditioned.

I think WDADU is really good for a first album and better than a lot of other debuts I've heard. Some of the songs have become classics, and the fact that DT played songs from this album more often than material from some other albums on the ADTOE tour says something.