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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #665 on: January 25, 2013, 06:46:39 PM »
Shush, that's entirely roblevel! Just wait for him to came and award you the Webster Award For Outstanding Post Writings and Topic Awareness.
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« Reply #666 on: January 25, 2013, 06:47:36 PM »
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« Reply #667 on: January 25, 2013, 06:49:09 PM »
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« Reply #668 on: January 25, 2013, 07:49:39 PM »
:rollin You guys.

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« Reply #669 on: January 25, 2013, 08:03:54 PM »
:rollin You guys.

That's like rob level there. :tup
I don't think I've ever received a compliment on par with that :lol

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« Reply #670 on: January 26, 2013, 01:46:48 AM »
I think you just need to be underslept and slightly drunk to get to the levels of posting awesomeness rob can attein while sober at 11AM.
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« Reply #671 on: January 26, 2013, 03:35:55 AM »
I think you just need to be underslept and slightly drunk to get to the levels of posting awesomeness rob can attein while sober at 11AM.

Does anyone want to pitch money for a texas mickey and stay up all night on DTF? :D
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #672 on: January 26, 2013, 06:53:58 AM »
Octavarium is a forgettable song/album.

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« Reply #673 on: January 26, 2013, 08:06:08 AM »
You're a forgettable song/album.

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« Reply #674 on: January 26, 2013, 10:48:12 AM »
You're a forgettable song/album.

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« Reply #675 on: January 26, 2013, 11:39:41 AM »
Octavarium is a forgettable song/album.
Agree about the album in general. The song is magic though.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #676 on: January 26, 2013, 11:52:56 AM »
The Jews are evi..... oh opinions on Dream Theater.

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« Reply #677 on: January 26, 2013, 01:32:37 PM »
The Jews are evi..... oh opinions on Dream Theater.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #678 on: April 13, 2013, 10:08:24 AM »
Bumping this in case someone has controversial opinions to share.

I know I said I love TOWHTSTS already, but now that my list is over, I can say more precisely that it's a top 20 song for me. And since there's a lot of discussion on Six Degrees going on in the "DT in the studio again" thread, I once again have to say that in my opinion WDADU > SDOIT :)

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« Reply #679 on: April 13, 2013, 10:23:53 AM »
Bumping this in case someone has controversial opinions to share.

I know I said I love TOWHTSTS already, but now that my list is over, I can say more precisely that it's a top 20 song for me. And since there's a lot of discussion on Six Degrees going on in the "DT in the studio again" thread, I once again have to say that in my opinion WDADU > SDOIT :)
For me, it's the exact opposite. SDOIT is my favourite DT album where WDADU is my least favourite.

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« Reply #680 on: April 13, 2013, 10:26:29 AM »
WDADU is DT's only truly awful album. SDOIT and WDADU are literally the complete opposite ends of DT's best/worst albums for me.


We're in the controversial opinion thread, so I'm covered for that for the 3 people that like WDADU. :neverusethis:
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #681 on: April 13, 2013, 10:27:17 AM »
I know no-one will agree with me :lol It's not a huge difference in quality and Six Degrees has some absolutely amazing stuff, but I find it easier to sit through WDADU than to listen to 6D in full.

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« Reply #682 on: April 13, 2013, 12:00:51 PM »
I find the complicated bombast of SFAM too difficult to penetrate. It's my least favorite DT album.

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« Reply #683 on: April 13, 2013, 12:45:58 PM »
I have always thought it was incredible that You not me gets so much hate. I think itīs one of the best songs on FII and easily better than songs like Ytse jam, Blind faith, Just let me breathe, Dance of Eternity, The count of Tuscany and especially better than the demo version You or me.

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« Reply #684 on: April 13, 2013, 12:48:00 PM »
WDADU is my favorite album.
Octavarium is my favorite song.
FII is my least favorite album.
I think Prophets Of War is a great song.
Other than Repentance and TMOLS being too long, I think SC is a good album.
I probably like DT instrumentals more than most people. I would put Hell's Kitchen and SOC in my top 20.

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« Reply #685 on: April 13, 2013, 01:07:48 PM »
A Rite of Passage is a good song and would be somewhere in my top 40.

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« Reply #686 on: April 13, 2013, 05:39:33 PM »
Elements Of Persuasions vocals are better than both SC and BC&SL. Plus, EoP's guitar playing is much more inspiring and creative than both SC and BC&SL or maybe even Octavarium. 
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #687 on: April 13, 2013, 06:44:33 PM »
I have always thought it was incredible that You not me gets so much hate. I think itīs one of the best songs on FII and easily better than songs like Ytse jam, Blind faith, Just let me breathe, Dance of Eternity, The count of Tuscany and especially better than the demo version You or me.

You Not Me is a better song than any song on BC&SL, save Wither.

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« Reply #688 on: April 13, 2013, 07:55:29 PM »
If you say Just Let Me Breathe or Burning My Soul instead of You Not Me I would gladly agree, save TCOT but like this: no way.
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« Reply #689 on: April 14, 2013, 12:27:18 AM »
Overture 1928 is by far the best DT instrumental.
Endless Sacrifice is a Top 5 song.
SDV is the best song on Awake. (Although the Mirror comes close).


Bumping this in case someone has controversial opinions to share.

I know I said I love TOWHTSTS already, but now that my list is over, I can say more precisely that it's a top 20 song for me. And since there's a lot of discussion on Six Degrees going on in the "DT in the studio again" thread, I once again have to say that in my opinion WDADU > SDOIT :)

SFAM > TOT > Awake > ADTOE > 8VM > SDOIT :)

SDOIT is not bad,  but not amazing either. IMO. ;D

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« Reply #690 on: April 14, 2013, 12:30:59 AM »
SFAM Alternate mix > Release mix
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #691 on: April 14, 2013, 12:43:53 AM »
Elements Of Persuasions vocals are better than both SC and BC&SL. Plus, EoP's guitar playing is much more inspiring and creative than both SC and BC&SL or maybe even Octavarium. 

I Love EoP, and I love the gritty vocals, but they're really pitchy. JLB's vocals always sound really rough to me outside of DT projects, like he can't quite control his voice when he's given complete freedom to let loose. SC and BCASL both have better vocals imo. ITPOE and ANTR are both good examples of JLB singing controlled and melodic gritty vocals better than EoP.
And the guitar playing on EoP is just generic riffing in B, while SC and especially BCASL have some of JP's best guitar work. EoP does have some pretty good solos, but the keyboard solos are usually better. :lol
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #692 on: April 14, 2013, 01:09:11 AM »
Octavarium is better than ACOS

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« Reply #694 on: April 14, 2013, 02:45:09 AM »
SDV is the best song on Awake.
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All this love for Octavarium makes it seem like ACOS > 8V is a controversial opinion :lol

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« Reply #695 on: April 14, 2013, 02:55:14 AM »
I know no-one will agree with me :lol It's not a huge difference in quality and Six Degrees has some absolutely amazing stuff, but I find it easier to sit through WDADU than to listen to 6D in full.

WDADU = no weak songs
SDOIT = Disappear has grown on me, but still it's only decent at best. SDOIT has enough good material for ~20 minutes, not for 42.

So yeah, I agree.

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« Reply #696 on: April 14, 2013, 03:03:57 AM »
I don't like LF&GA, but otherwise I completely agree with you! :tup

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« Reply #697 on: April 14, 2013, 03:04:58 AM »
No weak songs on WDADU? How can anyone say that with a straight face? :lol The best of WDADU doesn't even come close to the worst from SDOIT.
My controversial opinion is that WDADU should never have been released. It's an embarrassing album, especially when IaW could have made one of the best debut albums of all time.
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« Reply #698 on: April 14, 2013, 03:10:59 AM »
No weak songs on WDADU? How can anyone say that with a straight face? :lol The best of WDADU doesn't even come close to the worst from SDOIT.
My controversial opinion is that WDADU should never have been released. It's an embarrassing album, especially when IaW could have made one of the best debut albums of all time.

Do you mean that they should have held those songs back instead of releasing them? Because there is no way in hell that they could have written IAW without the musical growth that they experienced in the WDADU era!
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« Reply #699 on: April 14, 2013, 03:19:33 AM »
Do you mean that they should have held those songs back instead of releasing them? Because there is no way in hell that they could have written IAW without the musical growth that they experienced in the WDADU era!
This. Like it or not, WDADU was a necessary step towards I&W. And had they not released an album with Charlie, they wouldn't have realized that he wasn't the right singer for them and hired James after that. And even if they had started looking for a new singer, James was still the frontman for Winter Rose at the time and probably wouldn't have auditioned.

I think WDADU is really good for a first album and better than a lot of other debuts I've heard. Some of the songs have become classics, and the fact that DT played songs from this album more often than material from some other albums on the ADTOE tour says something.