Your Controversial Opinions on DT

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snapple


Jaffa


Mindflux


BlobVanDam

Quote from: Lolzeez on January 20, 2013, 12:53:30 PM
Here's a new one.

The Silent Man is the best song off Awake.

It's definitely one of my favourites off the album, so I'm ok with this.


Quote from: Mindflux on January 20, 2013, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Jaffa on January 20, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: snapple on January 20, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yes, no, no, yes, yes.
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU

Well at least we can agree on something today. :P

Mindflux


snapple

Quote from: snapple on January 20, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

I made a mistake. I posted this in an opinions thread when it is clearly fact. Sorry for the confusion.

Scorpion

Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Quote from: Mindflux on January 20, 2013, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Jaffa on January 20, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: snapple on January 20, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yes, no, no, yes, yes.
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU

Well at least we can agree on something today. :P

You like Awake more than WDADU (not baiting, genuinely curious)?

Cedar redaC

Quote from: snapple on January 20, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL
I might put 6 Degrees on the same level as A Dramatic Turn of Events, otherwise, yeah.

Jaffa

Quote from: Scorpion on January 21, 2013, 10:28:49 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Quote from: Mindflux on January 20, 2013, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Jaffa on January 20, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: snapple on January 20, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yes, no, no, yes, yes.
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU

Well at least we can agree on something today. :P

You like Awake more than WDADU (not baiting, genuinely curious)?

I probably shouldn't speak for Blob, but yes, I'm pretty sure he likes Awake better than WDADU.   :lol

Scorpion

Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

Rattlehead


Pols Voice


BlobVanDam

Quote from: Scorpion on January 21, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.

Prog Snob

Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: Scorpion on January 21, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.

Wow...so Lifting Shadows doesn't do anything for you?

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Prog Snob on January 21, 2013, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: Scorpion on January 21, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.

Wow...so Lifting Shadows doesn't do anything for you?

I don't hate it, but "does nothing for me" would be an accurate description.

Zook


BlobVanDam

Yes, because every other DT song I listen to is cheesy and 80s.  :\

Zook


Prog Snob

Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2013, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: Prog Snob on January 21, 2013, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: Scorpion on January 21, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.

Wow...so Lifting Shadows doesn't do anything for you?

I don't hate it, but "does nothing for me" would be an accurate description.

For me, if they had started the CD at Innocence Faded I'd be perfectly content.  Not that 6:00 and CiaW are horrible songs, but I don't always look forward to hearing them live.

wasteland

I used to think the same way, but then I heard 6:00 live...  ::)

JayOctavarium

Quote from: wasteland on January 21, 2013, 10:55:48 PM
I used to think the same way, but then I heard 6:00 live...  ::)


I used to be indifferent towards 6:00. That was until I hear it live :metal

Cedar redaC

I saw it live before I heard the studio version. I think that both are awesome!

JayOctavarium

Quote from: Cedar redaC on January 21, 2013, 11:00:05 PM
I saw it live before I heard the studio version. I think that both are awesome!

how is that possible?

Scorpion

YouTube video, perhaps?

Anyway, my opinions on Awake form a sort-of reverse-Blob: if the first three tracks were cut, the album would be then best DT disc by a long shot. Not that they are bad, and Awake is still my third favourite DT album, but the other tracks are really, really awesome and on a whole different level.

wasteland

Quote from: JayOctavarium on January 21, 2013, 11:16:14 PM
Quote from: Cedar redaC on January 21, 2013, 11:00:05 PM
I saw it live before I heard the studio version. I think that both are awesome!

how is that possible?

Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D

?

Quote from: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 05:24:55 AM
Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D
Yeah, I think this is the case. I might remember wrong, but hasn't he not heard Scenes in full yet (or maybe I'm thinking of someone else)?

wasteland

Quote from: ? on January 22, 2013, 05:28:55 AM
Quote from: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 05:24:55 AM
Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D
Yeah, I think this is the case. I might remember wrong, but hasn't he not heard Scenes in full yet (or maybe I'm thinking of someone else)?

Yes, he is still a pretty new DT fan... and we already corrupted him!  :laugh:

Cedar redaC

Ok everyone, here's the story: I got into Dream Theater in the fall of 2011, around the time of the release of A Dramatic Turn of Events. I really got into their music and wanted to see them live. At this time, I only had A Dramatic Turn of Events and Images and Words on CD. When I saw them live, they played 6:00 after Bridges in the Sky (this was the North American Summer 2012 leg of the tour) and I knew that I had to have it on CD. Pretty soon I had bought Awake, Six Degrees, and Octavarium.

Quote from: ? on January 22, 2013, 05:28:55 AM
Quote from: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 05:24:55 AM
Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D
Yeah, I think this is the case. I might remember wrong, but hasn't he not heard Scenes in full yet (or maybe I'm thinking of someone else)?

I have heard Scenes on Grooveshark, but I haven't got the album on CD yet.

I would buy more of their stuff, but I've been discovering so much great music lately that I haven't been able to focus on completing any discographies yet.

JayOctavarium


Lucidity

Here's one: Octavarium is a fantastic album, and is better than Awake.

Meatrose

How about this: Pull Me Under is by far the weakest track on Images And Words.

Lucidity

Quote from: Meatrose on January 23, 2013, 11:17:21 AM
How about this: Pull Me Under is by far the weakest track on Images And Words.

I think that's generally agreed on :P

TheLordOfTheStrings

I've got one. I really don't know why everyone freaks out about JMX writing lyrics. I don't think they're that great. Other than BAI, which I really like.. but then again, JP helped with that one, so who knows what JMX actually wrote. But I really don't see what the deal is with songs like Lifting Shadows.

That being said, I absolutely love JMX and I think he is absolutely incredible.

Scorpion

Trial of Tears would like to have with you.

Jaffa