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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #595 on: January 20, 2013, 05:55:30 PM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

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« Reply #596 on: January 20, 2013, 06:23:56 PM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yes, no, no, yes, yes. 
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« Reply #597 on: January 20, 2013, 07:04:12 PM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yes, no, no, yes, yes.
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU

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« Reply #598 on: January 20, 2013, 07:36:54 PM »
Here's a new one.

The Silent Man is the best song off Awake.

It's definitely one of my favourites off the album, so I'm ok with this.


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Yes, no, no, yes, yes.
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU

Well at least we can agree on something today. :P
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« Reply #599 on: January 20, 2013, 07:39:14 PM »
Well at least we can agree on something today. :P
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« Reply #600 on: January 21, 2013, 11:20:57 AM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

I made a mistake. I posted this in an opinions thread when it is clearly fact. Sorry for the confusion.

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« Reply #601 on: January 21, 2013, 11:28:49 AM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yes, no, no, yes, yes.
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU

Well at least we can agree on something today. :P

You like Awake more than WDADU (not baiting, genuinely curious)?
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« Reply #602 on: January 21, 2013, 11:56:26 AM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL
I might put 6 Degrees on the same level as A Dramatic Turn of Events, otherwise, yeah.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #603 on: January 21, 2013, 02:05:01 PM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yes, no, no, yes, yes.
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU

Well at least we can agree on something today. :P

You like Awake more than WDADU (not baiting, genuinely curious)?

I probably shouldn't speak for Blob, but yes, I'm pretty sure he likes Awake better than WDADU.   :lol
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« Reply #604 on: January 21, 2013, 02:51:36 PM »
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?
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« Reply #605 on: January 21, 2013, 04:32:02 PM »
ADTOE < Everything other than WDADU, FII and 8vm

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« Reply #606 on: January 21, 2013, 04:50:32 PM »
ADToE>8vm, 6DOIT, ToT, SC, BC&SL

Yup. It's better than WDADU too.
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« Reply #607 on: January 21, 2013, 07:51:20 PM »
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.
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« Reply #608 on: January 21, 2013, 07:59:27 PM »
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.

Wow...so Lifting Shadows doesn't do anything for you?

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« Reply #609 on: January 21, 2013, 08:05:27 PM »
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.

Wow...so Lifting Shadows doesn't do anything for you?

I don't hate it, but "does nothing for me" would be an accurate description.
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« Reply #610 on: January 21, 2013, 08:08:34 PM »
It's not cheesy and 80s enough. :biggrin:

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« Reply #611 on: January 21, 2013, 08:10:46 PM »
Yes, because every other DT song I listen to is cheesy and 80s.  :\
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« Reply #612 on: January 21, 2013, 08:15:05 PM »
Go to bed, Blob.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #613 on: January 21, 2013, 08:15:38 PM »
Derp. I meant ADTOE.

So Blob, do you like Awake more than ADTOE?

They're actually both at the bottom for me, so that's a toughy. As an album ADTOE is more consistent, but up until Lie, Awake is a very good album.
I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Awake, but lop off everything from Lie onwards.

Wow...so Lifting Shadows doesn't do anything for you?

I don't hate it, but "does nothing for me" would be an accurate description.

For me, if they had started the CD at Innocence Faded I'd be perfectly content.  Not that 6:00 and CiaW are horrible songs, but I don't always look forward to hearing them live.

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« Reply #614 on: January 21, 2013, 11:55:48 PM »
I used to think the same way, but then I heard 6:00 live...  ::)
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« Reply #615 on: January 21, 2013, 11:58:29 PM »
I used to think the same way, but then I heard 6:00 live...  ::)


I used to be indifferent towards 6:00. That was until I hear it live :metal
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« Reply #616 on: January 22, 2013, 12:00:05 AM »
I saw it live before I heard the studio version. I think that both are awesome!
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« Reply #617 on: January 22, 2013, 12:16:14 AM »
I saw it live before I heard the studio version. I think that both are awesome!

how is that possible?
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #618 on: January 22, 2013, 04:05:14 AM »
YouTube video, perhaps?

Anyway, my opinions on Awake form a sort-of reverse-Blob: if the first three tracks were cut, the album would be then best DT disc by a long shot. Not that they are bad, and Awake is still my third favourite DT album, but the other tracks are really, really awesome and on a whole different level.
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« Reply #619 on: January 22, 2013, 06:24:55 AM »
I saw it live before I heard the studio version. I think that both are awesome!

how is that possible?

Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D
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« Reply #620 on: January 22, 2013, 06:28:55 AM »
Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D
Yeah, I think this is the case. I might remember wrong, but hasn't he not heard Scenes in full yet (or maybe I'm thinking of someone else)?

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« Reply #621 on: January 22, 2013, 06:30:02 AM »
Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D
Yeah, I think this is the case. I might remember wrong, but hasn't he not heard Scenes in full yet (or maybe I'm thinking of someone else)?

Yes, he is still a pretty new DT fan... and we already corrupted him!  :laugh:
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« Reply #622 on: January 22, 2013, 09:08:55 AM »
Ok everyone, here's the story: I got into Dream Theater in the fall of 2011, around the time of the release of A Dramatic Turn of Events. I really got into their music and wanted to see them live. At this time, I only had A Dramatic Turn of Events and Images and Words on CD. When I saw them live, they played 6:00 after Bridges in the Sky (this was the North American Summer 2012 leg of the tour) and I knew that I had to have it on CD. Pretty soon I had bought Awake, Six Degrees, and Octavarium.

Maybe he hadn't gotten into their full discography yet, but he enough of a fan to wish to check them out live already. I think he will tell us the truth quite soon :D
Yeah, I think this is the case. I might remember wrong, but hasn't he not heard Scenes in full yet (or maybe I'm thinking of someone else)?

I have heard Scenes on Grooveshark, but I haven't got the album on CD yet.

I would buy more of their stuff, but I've been discovering so much great music lately that I haven't been able to focus on completing any discographies yet.
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« Reply #623 on: January 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM »
It's all good
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #624 on: January 22, 2013, 05:23:04 PM »
Here's one: Octavarium is a fantastic album, and is better than Awake.

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« Reply #625 on: January 23, 2013, 12:17:21 PM »
How about this: Pull Me Under is by far the weakest track on Images And Words.

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« Reply #626 on: January 23, 2013, 01:21:24 PM »
How about this: Pull Me Under is by far the weakest track on Images And Words.

I think that's generally agreed on :P

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« Reply #627 on: January 23, 2013, 01:36:41 PM »
I've got one. I really don't know why everyone freaks out about JMX writing lyrics. I don't think they're that great. Other than BAI, which I really like.. but then again, JP helped with that one, so who knows what JMX actually wrote. But I really don't see what the deal is with songs like Lifting Shadows.

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« Reply #628 on: January 23, 2013, 01:45:33 PM »
Trial of Tears would like to have with you.
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« Reply #629 on: January 23, 2013, 02:34:03 PM »
Trial of Tears would like to have with you.

Have what with him?
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