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Started by Lucidity, December 17, 2012, 07:28:25 PM

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jhonvictor

You mean songs like This Dying Soul and Sacrificed Sons? Not saying those will be in your list, just giving examples.

Scorpion

I mean songs that are considerably more awesome than the album that they are on as a whole. Sacrificed Sons fits that bill, though I don't rank it as highly. TDS is probably my second least favourite from ToT, so... no.

But if that's what you meant, yeah. I won't spoil my rankings right now, since it's my turn soon in the Top 50 thread (on the off chance that someone actually cares, but oh well), but if you view TDS and SS as songs such as these, then yeah.

RuRoRul

Quote from: Scorpion on December 18, 2012, 08:13:48 AM

- No song from Awake, SDOIT, Scenes or I&W would make my Top 5 DT songs.

I know there's lots of things that have been posted in this thread that are actually pretty common opinions on this forum (or commonly voiced opinions at least), but surely this one isn't all that controversial. Just because they're the most popular DT albums doesn't mean they have the individual songs everyone would rank highest.

Anyway, a few of mine:
- Awake is the worst of the JLB albums.
- Train Of Thought is the best DT album.
- The Dying Soul is a top 10 DT song.
- Honor Thy Father is top 20.
- No song from Awake would make my top 20.
- The Ministry Of Lost Souls is great, particularly its instrumental section (which is one of the best DT instrumental sections).
- The Count Of Tuscany is one of the absolute best DT songs (maybe not too controversial), and its lyrics are good apart from one verse (My brother).
- In The Presence Of Enemies is a top 10 DT song, on the same level as their other popular epics, and Part 2 is the best part of it.
- Take The Time is the best song from Images And Words - and I prefer the Greatest Hits mix of it.
- The Test That Stumped Them All is one of the best parts from SDOIT.

chwik

JP's solo in "Under A Glass Moon" sucks!









Nah, just kidding!  :yarr

Dacling


Podaar

-The instrumental section of The Ministry of Lost Souls fits the rest of the song.

JayOctavarium

Endless Sac.
Ministry
Space Dye

are all probaly top 15 if not top 10 for me

wasteland

- BAI, tied with TOT, is the best song DT has ever composed since before I was born.

Sketchy

Quote from: wasteland on December 18, 2012, 12:34:59 PM
- BAI, tied with TOT, is the best song DT has ever composed since before I was born.

YES. YES. YES. YES.

wasteland

Quote from: Sketchy on December 18, 2012, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: wasteland on December 18, 2012, 12:34:59 PM
- BAI, tied with TOT, is the best song DT has ever composed since before I was born.

YES. YES. YES. YES.

Having just checked your birthday on Facebook, the same cannot be said by you, right?  ::)

Sketchy

Eh, I don't know. Those are probably my two favourites, although Metropolis is also pretty awesome.

Nel_Annette

Quote from: Dacling on December 18, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
These opinions almost upset me

Agreed. I... I can't even look at this topic anymore. You all disgust me.

But I still love you.  ;D

wasteland

Quote from: Sketchy on December 18, 2012, 12:41:13 PM
Eh, I don't know. Those are probably my two favourites, although Metropolis is also pretty awesome.

Metropolis was written before you were born! :) And ACOS as well. Our birth dates are separated by LTL, TTT, UAGM and DLPM, I believe.

Sketchy

hehe, Ah good, I'm not ancient yet then. In that case, I am assuming, your favourite is LTL.

wasteland

Quote from: Sketchy on December 18, 2012, 12:44:00 PM
hehe, Ah good, I'm not ancient yet then. In that case, I am assuming, your favourite is LTL.

Assumptions, my friend, assumptions. True, perhaps  :-X

- Scarred is a top 10 DT song  :biggrin:

Mindflux

Parts I and II Octavarium (Track) is better then III IV and V by a long shot.
Panic Attack may be the worst track DT has ever laid down

Sketchy

Well, it looked as if it were going that way. I do very much love that one too.

jhonvictor

Quote from: Mindflux on December 18, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
Parts I and II Octavarium (Track) is better then III IV and V by a long shot.

That's not controversial, that's a fact.
- Another Day is EXTREMELY ANNOYING, and by far the worst song on the album.

Mindflux

Quote from: jhonvictor on December 18, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Quote from: Mindflux on December 18, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
Parts I and II Octavarium (Track) is better then III IV and V by a long shot.

That's not controversial, that's a fact.

I'm sure not everyone feels that way.  It's pretty slow, considering. But that's why I like it so much.

PROGdrummer

Black Clouds & Silver Linings > A Dramatic Turn of Events

jonnybaxy

Quote from: PROGdrummer on December 18, 2012, 01:17:51 PM
Black Clouds & Silver Linings > A Dramatic Turn of Events


YES! YES!

- every album by DT is Better than ADToE.
- one last time is more than a 'filler'
- a rite of passage is go
- 'day after day' part of ANTR is amazing but didn't go with the previous section too well
- Both sides of SDOIT are amazing

Rattlehead

Quote from: PROGdrummer on December 18, 2012, 01:17:51 PM
Black Clouds & Silver Linings > A Dramatic Turn of Events

Agreed  :metal it may not be perfect but it just has so much more energy in my opinion. I don't listen to either album much any more, but I'm much more likely to listen to BC&SL than ADToE now. I know I'm in the minority here, but the songs on BC&SL have held my interest longer than ADToE has.

philmcson

I seldomly listen to the album Metropolis pt.2. Maybe because of the fact that I often don't like things/music/people that are very popular (just as I don't like Maidens' Fear of the Dark)......

Zook

You don't listen to Scenes because it's popular? How very hipster of you.

badger

Let's see:

Endless sacrifice=endless long
Sometimes songs seem to be drug out just to fill an album up --alot of BC&SL
"Great debate", "Blind Faith", "Glass prison"....Most of SDOIT awesome--can't get enough, heavy rotation on the itouch.
The intro to "Lost not Forgotten" is a time filler -the rest of the track is the 2nd best part of the album.
After seeing DT live this past summer- I will travel within 400 miles to see them again.
"Through her eyes" is way better than "Spirit Carries On"
I am glad Mangini is in DT instead of MP.

Opinion

54_diplomats

- Although not entirely controversial, Scarred is my favorite song.
- The Mirror is in my top 10
- When Dream and Day Unite is a great album.
- I like the studio version of The Killing Hand a tiny bit more than the Marquee version.
- Octavarium is in my top 3 albums
- Breaking all Illusions is overrated. Good song, but overrated.
- Beneath the Surface is the worst song on ADToE
- I like A Rite of Passage, Prophets of War, Honor Thy Father and Panic Attack. Not top 50, but I like em.
- I prefer Kevin Moore over Jordan Rudess
- Pull me Under is the worst song on Images and Words, though that isn't saying much since all of those songs are phenomenal.

And finally, although this isn't an opinion: Scenes From a Memory is the only album I haven't listened to yet. I will get to it though.

sfam2112

In my opinion:
- the song Octavarium is a little overrated. It's definitely not a top 20 or 30 song, for me.
- Burning My Soul is a good song. I don't care much for the original version, though.
- "Breaking All Illusions" is a little too long. However, it did go over better live.

MetropolisWatches

I'm one of the few DT fans that actually digs "You Not Me". Also, I've never been in love with "Home" which seems to make many top 10 lists.

Implode

Aside from the solo, Under a Glass Moon is kind of boring for me.

DarkLord_Lalinc

Speak to Me and Don't Look Past Me are both top 15 DT songs.

goo-goo

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on December 18, 2012, 06:28:28 PM
Speak to Me and Don't Look Past Me are both top 15 DT songs.

The live version of Speak to Me is just amazing. Love it!

mike099

Quote from: 54_diplomats on December 18, 2012, 05:29:11 PM
- Although not entirely controversial, Scarred is my favorite song.
- The Mirror is in my top 10
- When Dream and Day Unite is a great album.
- I like the studio version of The Killing Hand a tiny bit more than the Marquee version.
- Octavarium is in my top 3 albums
- Breaking all Illusions is overrated. Good song, but overrated.
- Beneath the Surface is the worst song on ADToE
- I like A Rite of Passage, Prophets of War, Honor Thy Father and Panic Attack. Not top 50, but I like em.
- I prefer Kevin Moore over Jordan Rudess
- Pull me Under is the worst song on Images and Words, though that isn't saying much since all of those songs are phenomenal.

And finally, although this isn't an opinion: Scenes From a Memory is the only album I haven't listened to yet. I will get to it though.

I am new to DT, but have listened to SFAM several times.  Takes some getting used to, but there are some great songs on the cd. rcenes d

Lucidity

Controversial Dislikes

- Endless Sacrifice is one of my least favorite DT songs.
- I said this before, but I cannot reiterate it enough-- aside from the first minute or so, The Glass Prison is among the worst of the DT catalogue.
- Trial of Tears is way overrated.
- The only songs on Awake that I can sit through are Erotomania, The Mirror, and Space-Dye Vest (which is one of DT's best songs).
- A Change of Seasons has some great parts, but is way overrated.
- I love SFAM, but Through Her Eyes is godawful.
- Outcry is pretty dreadful. Aside from the intro, I can hardly sit through it. Maybe tied for worst on ADTOE with Beneath the Surface and BMUBMD.

Controversial Likes

- DT pulls off Muse and Tool styles very well and in their own unique way.
- The Shattered Fortress is the best part of the 12-Step Suite.
- New Millennium, Peruvian Skies, Anna Lee, and Hell's Kitchen are fantastic songs, every one of them.
- As I Am is an awesome song.
- DT should do more alt-rock songs a la Radiohead (Disappear is pretty much the only one as of now).
- Raw Dog is pretty awesome.
- I like the clips and quotes DT uses, Home included.

voncorn

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Lucidity

I'm gonna cheat and give some controversial LTE opinions.

- State of Grace is nice, but generally a skipped song.
- Biaxident is one of the best, if not the best LTE song.
- Chris and Kevin's Excellent Adventure is awesome and I wish they did more groovy experimenting like that in DT.
- Osmosis is amazing.
- The Stretch has some sweet soloing and isn't bad at all.
(basically, the "fillers" on the first LTE are darn good songs on their own)

Quote from: voncorn on December 18, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
- I can overlook the shallow and borderline silly lyrics of Goodnight Kiss because every other aspect of that song is perfect to my ears (especially the guitar solo). The song also happens to be my most listened to DT song according to my last.fm scrobbles.

- I don't see what's so great about A Change of Seasons and I would listen to Octavarium the song over it any day.

Quoted what I agree with. Goodnight Kiss is one of my favorite ever DT songs. The solo is fantastic, and what really seals the deal for me is the sick disco beat soloing at the end. And Octavarium kicks ACoS' butt any day of the week.