Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[Volante99]

Controversial opinion;

I haven’t really liked the first three songs they’ve released off the new album. Seems more of the same as DT12. Paralyzed is just...okay. Really hoping for the best, though.

[rab7]

Controversial opinion;

I haven’t really liked the first three songs they’ve released off the new album. Seems more of the same as DT12. Paralyzed is just...okay. Really hoping for the best, though.

That's not controversial at all. The great thing is, a lot of the people who have heard it already say that the rest of the album is miles better than the 3 singles

[TAC]

 

Controversial opinion;

I haven’t really liked the first three songs they’ve released off the new album. Seems more of the same as DT12. Paralyzed is just...okay. Really hoping for the best, though.

That's not controversial at all. The great thing is, a lot of the people who have heard it already say that the rest of the album is miles better than the 3 singles

Right, and Fall Into The Light is fantastic.

[SeRoX]

I like the rest of the album more, that's for sure but when you think about as a whole three singles just fit perfect the thema of the album. And you start to love them more and more. Paralyzed is just fantastic and Fall Into The Light has an amazing middle section and outro. Though I still think UA is the weakest of all.

[Cool Chris]

OIALT was my first album.

Yikes!

[Volante99]

Controversial opinion;

I haven’t really liked the first three songs they’ve released off the new album. Seems more of the same as DT12. Paralyzed is just...okay. Really hoping for the best, though.

That's not controversial at all. The great thing is, a lot of the people who have heard it already say that the rest of the album is miles better than the 3 singles

I don’t know, man. People in the D/T thread are going pretty gaga over the album, calling it the best since SFAM, comparing it to Awake, etc. The rest of the songs would need to be EXTREMELY jaw droppingly good to get to that level. Again, trying hard to be optimistic, though!

[ThatOneGuy2112]

Not trying to discredit or minimize anyone's opinions at all. But typically when a new album drops, the initial reactions are usually from favorable to "this is a new classic". It's the nature of hype cycles. I suggest just go in with leveled expectations and come to what you will of it. Last time, I went in mouth-watering, then I was given The Astonishing, so.

[lucidlydreaming]

I'm just now starting to like 8V, the song and I bought the album on Day 1.

[SeRoX]

If ADTOE'd had same production quality same of DoT it would've been placed higher in their discography... in the eye of the fans. Like this, at least for me it is placed as bottom 5.

[Tomasoares]

Hmm I actually enjoy the tighter mixing of ADTOE, my problem is that the album is too long, but lately I decided to remove Bridges in the sky from the tracklist and the experience flowed a lot better. It's far from a bad song, but tbh is my least favorite from the record.

[Max Kuehnau]

Mangini should have been brought in 20 years ago.

[TAC]

Hmm I actually enjoy the tighter mixing of ADTOE, my problem is that the album is too long, but lately I decided to remove Bridges in the sky from the tracklist and the experience flowed a lot better. It's far from a bad song, but tbh is my least favorite from the record.

ADTOE is literally one of my favorite DT albums, and still my fave of the MM Era. But honestly, I usually skip ATBOA and BMUBMD and start at LNF.

[lucidlydreaming]

OIALT was my first album.

Yikes!

Ytse Jam was the one that hooked me.  Plus, it introduced me to Peruvian Skies and Take The Time (I still want to see video of this with the Freebird outro btw).

It was enough to get me to get SFAM when it released shortly afterwards.

[Cool Chris]

Mangini should have been brought in 20 years ago.

Or rather in 2007. Mike has his swan song with the amazing Score show and release and goes on to pursue his varying musical desires without being saddled with DT's structure, direction, and expectations; and hopefully(?) SC and BCaSL turn out more favorable to the fanbase (at least here those two are highly featured in the "Least favorite 3 album stretch" thread).

[adamack]

Here's one for everyone. Dystopian Overture is the second best song of the MM era after Breaking All Illusions. I said it! 

[Dream Team]

Mangini should have been brought in 20 years ago.

Or rather in 2007. Mike has his swan song with the amazing Score show and release and goes on to pursue his varying musical desires without being saddled with DT's structure, direction, and expectations; and hopefully(?) SC and BCaSL turn out more favorable to the fanbase (at least here those two are highly featured in the "Least favorite 3 album stretch" thread).

This exactly.

[BeardedGentlemanHistorian]

"Fall Into The Light" is the best Mangini era song since "Breaking All Illusions".

[LCArenas]

Barstool Warrior has one of the best lyrics JP has composed in the past 15 years.

[gzarruk]

Posted this on the BC&SL thread, but it deserves to be posted here: I like SC more than Octavarium.

[npiazza91]

Controversial opinion;

I haven’t really liked the first three songs they’ve released off the new album. Seems more of the same as DT12. Paralyzed is just...okay. Really hoping for the best, though.

That's not controversial at all. The great thing is, a lot of the people who have heard it already say that the rest of the album is miles better than the 3 singles

I don’t know, man. People in the D/T thread are going pretty gaga over the album, calling it the best since SFAM, comparing it to Awake, etc. The rest of the songs would need to be EXTREMELY jaw droppingly good to get to that level. Again, trying hard to be optimistic, though!

I think that's just because it's so much better than The Astonishing in many people's eyes.  and to be fair, it is a great album.  I just think realistically it's like "SFAM/Awake lite".  It's great, but it's a step down from the classics imo.  It just doesn't have that magic to me.

[TAC]

I don’t know, man. People in the D/T thread are going pretty gaga over the album, calling it the best since SFAM, comparing it to Awake, etc. The rest of the songs would need to be EXTREMELY jaw droppingly good to get to that level. Again, trying hard to be optimistic, though!

I kind of agree.

[bl5150]

I don’t know, man. People in the D/T thread are going pretty gaga over the album, calling it the best since SFAM, comparing it to Awake, etc. The rest of the songs would need to be EXTREMELY jaw droppingly good to get to that level. Again, trying hard to be optimistic, though!

I kind of agree.

I agree too.  Certainly a good album but for me no better than any other MM era album (forgetting The Asstonishing)

I also don't get the idea that it's some kind of balls to the wall metal album either.  It's certainly heavy in parts but then so was DT12.

Having said the above the album is a continuation of the more melodic song-focused writing that got me back into the band around ADTOE after a very long period of disinterest in new DT material.   So while I don't consider the album to be in the league of I&W  (that applies to 99.99% of albums from anyone) I am happy to see them continuing in this vein.

[Herrick]

Posted this on the BC&SL thread, but it deserves to be posted here: I like SC more than Octavarium.

Me too. I haven't listened to Octavarium in a long time. Maybe a year but I do love the title track. I think I'll listen to both albums black to black.

[erwinrafael]

Posted this on the BC&SL thread, but it deserves to be posted here: I like SC more than Octavarium.

More controversial: I like In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 2 more than Octavarium. 

[Dedalus]

ITPOE pt 2 should be banished from modern civilization.

 

[mikeyd23]

I don’t know, man. People in the D/T thread are going pretty gaga over the album, calling it the best since SFAM, comparing it to Awake, etc. The rest of the songs would need to be EXTREMELY jaw droppingly good to get to that level. Again, trying hard to be optimistic, though!

I kind of agree.

I agree too.  Certainly a good album but for me no better than any other MM era album (forgetting The Asstonishing)

I also don't get the idea that it's some kind of balls to the wall metal album either.  It's certainly heavy in parts but then so was DT12.

Having said the above the album is a continuation of the more melodic song-focused writing that got me back into the band around ADTOE after a very long period of disinterest in new DT material.   So while I don't consider the album to be in the league of I&W  (that applies to 99.99% of albums from anyone) I am happy to see them continuing in this vein.

I think it's probably their best in a long time, since SFAM, heck no, I mean SDOIT does exist and it's their best album. But it's good. It is sitting better than the other MM albums for me right now though, it just feels better, which sounds silly and abstract, but it's how I feel.

I definitely don't think it's a "balls to the wall metal album" either. If ToT is the "metal" DT record, I think this album is ToT heavy stuff dipped in FII structure and flow.

[gzarruk]

Posted this on the BC&SL thread, but it deserves to be posted here: I like SC more than Octavarium.

More controversial: I like In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 2 more than Octavarium. 

ITPOE (full song) is their most underrated epic. What a fantastic song it is.

[Evai]

Ministry of Lost Souls solo section is perfect for the song. Without it, it would be a mid-paced snorefest, but the frantic middle section actually makes the whole song come together much better.

[romdrums]

Posted this on the BC&SL thread, but it deserves to be posted here: I like SC more than Octavarium.

You're not alone there.  I even like WDADU over 8V.

[Zook]

The first 3 songs on DoT are great. Room 137 is the weak link.

[ReaperKK]

Posted this on the BC&SL thread, but it deserves to be posted here: I like SC more than Octavarium.

Me too. I haven't listened to Octavarium in a long time. Maybe a year but I do love the title track. I think I'll listen to both albums black to black.

Posted this on the BC&SL thread, but it deserves to be posted here: I like SC more than Octavarium.

More controversial: I like In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 2 more than Octavarium. 

I agree with both of these statements

[jakepriest]

The first 3 songs on DoT are great. Room 137 is the weak link.

Definitely. And the signature DT waste of time balad.

The rest of the album is 7 to 10/10.

[Zook]

The first 3 songs on DoT are great. Room 137 is the weak link.

Definitely. And the signature DT waste of time balad.

The rest of the album is 7 to 10/10.

I really like Out of Reach.

[Dedalus]

The first 3 songs on DoT are great. Room 137 is the weak link.

Definitely. And the signature DT waste of time balad.

The rest of the album is 7 to 10/10.

I really like Out of Reach.

Me too.

[Another_Won]

The first 3 songs on DoT are great. Room 137 is the weak link.

Definitely. And the signature DT waste of time balad.

The rest of the album is 7 to 10/10.

I really like Out of Reach.

Me too.

I really like it too and I don't prefer most of their balads.  Since we're in the controversial thread, I might say it's their best one.