Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[Kotowboy]

Ok what is DT12?

The self titled album, the one before The Astonishing.
DT12 is the de facto nickname for it here (being DT's 12th album) because self titling an album is silly and confusing.

Some people may also call it DTDT but DT12 was the forum voted shortcut for it instead of putting " Dream Theater : Dream Theater " every time.

[BlobVanDam]

Ok what is DT12?

The self titled album, the one before The Astonishing.
DT12 is the de facto nickname for it here (being DT's 12th album) because self titling an album is silly and confusing.

Some people may also call it DTDT but DT12 was the forum voted shortcut for it instead of putting " Dream Theater : Dream Theater " every time.

And forum polls are legally binding.

[425]

Was the use of the DT12 abbreviation really a direct result of a forum poll, or is it just the way things organically ended up happening?

[BlobVanDam]

Nah, it just became the most accepted, even by the time we made a poll. The poll was just DTF being DTF, it's not as if it was to decide an official abbreviation that everyone had to use. You'll still see people referring to the album as DT or DTDT, it's just not common.

[rumborak]

One that was never settled is SDOIT vs 6DOIT. Or I&W and IAW.

[BlobVanDam]

One that was never settled is SDOIT vs 6DOIT. Or I&W and IAW.

Do those need to be settled? Are we that pedantic? Ah who am I kidding, of course we are!

I remember the discussion at the time of Octavarium about the abbreviation, and I still occasionally see some weird ones. I go with 8V, but I still see 8VM sometimes too.

[KevShmev]

LOL. Using something other than just letters is always fun, so I always go with DT12, 6DOIT and I&W. 

[425]

Nah, it just became the most accepted, even by the time we made a poll. The poll was just DTF being DTF, it's not as if it was to decide an official abbreviation that everyone had to use. You'll still see people referring to the album as DT or DTDT, it's just not common.

That's how I remembered it happening, but the talk of a poll made me wonder if I had misremembered it.

One that was never settled is SDOIT vs 6DOIT. Or I&W and IAW.

Or BC&SL vs. BCASL vs. BCSL.

It should be SDOIT. The other two I don't have a strong opinion about.

[BlobVanDam]

One that was never settled is SDOIT vs 6DOIT. Or I&W and IAW.

Or BC&SL vs. BCASL vs. BCSL.

It should be SDOIT. The other two I don't have a strong opinion about.

I always go with letters simply because I find it quicker and easier when typing it out, which is the whole point of abbreviating to begin with. Aside from that, as long as the meaning is understood, it's all good. The only one of those I'm opposed to is BCSL. The name of the album is not Black Clouds Silver Linings dammit!

[rumborak]

I think DT12 should be DTXII. Just sayin.

[abydos]

I'll settle these for you guys. IW, SDOIT, BCSL. You're welcome!

Also, S/T (though I wished they name it Dream Theatre).

[BlobVanDam]

I think DT12 should be DTXII. Just sayin.

But then people have to remember Roman numerals!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEGwKTQrqmQ

[KevShmev]

I'll settle these for you guys. IW, SDOIT, BCSL. You're welcome!

The bolded ones make no sense!

[abydos]

You mentally fill in the missing parts, just like you normally do with abbreviations. I'm lazy.

[KevShmev]

Oh, so we can do SFM for Scenes, A for the new album, ACS for A Change of Seasons and TT for Train of Thought?

[abydos]

Not for ToT. It's fun to say.

[pantsofeternity]

I prefer the ones that are pronounceable in my head...
WDADU = wuhdadoo
ACOS = a-cause
FII = feeee
SFAM = ess-fam
SDOIT = ess-"do it!"
TOT = taught
BCASL = bee-castle
ADTOE = add-toe

[BlobVanDam]

WDADU = wuhdadoo

[LCArenas]

Oh and don't even get me started on Five Years in a Livetime. FYiALT? 5YiAL? FYALT?

Also: I always pronounce WDADU it like that! Also SDoIT is "Six Do It" in my head.

Can't believe we're actually discussing this man

[BlobVanDam]

Oh and don't even get me started on Five Years in a Lifetime. FYiALT? 5YiAL? FYALT?

It's easier just to not mention it at all.
I always think wadadoo when I see WDADU now, and I read ACOS and BCASL phonetically too. Whenever I see ACOS, I think math.

[IDontNotDoThings]

The worst is when people do this:

11. BC&SL
12. WDADU

Consistency? How does that work?

[BlobVanDam]

The worst is when people do this:

11. BC&SL
12. WDADU

Consistency? How does that work?

If you want to get technical, WDADU's title on the album cover is When Dream And Day Unite, whereas BCASL is actually written on the album cover as Black Clouds & Silver Linings, not as Black Clouds And Silver Linings, so it's actually keeping with how it's written, even though the meaning is the same.

[Enigmachine]

"Your Controversial abbreviations on DT"

WDADU = wuhdadoo

 

[King Postwhore]

This thread has turned fckng stpid.

[TheAtliator]

This is probably the stupidest thing I'll ever post (don't quote me on that) but I always read ADTOE like a phrase "a DT o' E" where E stands for excellence. Because it's just a DT album of excellence. It's- a DT o' E.

I always sound out "six-doit" though.

[Tomislav95]

This is probably the stupidest thing I'll ever post (don't quote me on that) but I always read ADTOE like a phrase "a DT o' E" where E stands for excellence. Because it's just a DT album of excellence. It's- a DT o' E.

I always sound out "six-doit" though.

Judas Priest almost got sued for telling: "Do it"

[Kotowboy]

One that was never settled is SDOIT vs 6DOIT. Or I&W and IAW.

Do those need to be settled? Are we that pedantic? Ah who am I kidding, of course we are!

I remember the discussion at the time of Octavarium about the abbreviation, and I still occasionally see some weird ones. I go with 8V, but I still see 8VM sometimes too.

Octavarium is the weirdest one. I see 8VM. 8VRM. Octave8 8VARIUM.

I write " Octavarium ". No muss, no fuss.

[Kotowboy]

I think DT12 should be DTXII. Just sayin.

But then people have to remember Roman numerals!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEGwKTQrqmQ

The ones that annoy me are when it's wrong.

Like, instead of ACOS for A Change Of Seasons - sometimes people put ACOF

I can't tell you how many times i've seen the Metallica album Kill Em All abbreviated to KEM.

[BlobVanDam]

I've seen FII as FIF a few times. Falling Into Finity?

[Train of Naught]

Aw for Awake is another weird one, like we can abbreviate every word by just putting the first two letters.

[LCArenas]

I always use 8VM for Octavarium but I guess it's also wrong since it's a single word



All of this stuff has made me wonder how we always think of Space-Dye Vest when talking about SDV instead of Strange Déja Vu

[BlobVanDam]

Aw for Awake is another weird one, like we can abbreviate every word by just putting the first two letters.

I find it silly trying to shorten Awake at all, given that it's already as short as a lot of the other album acronyms like WDADU, SDOIT, BCASL, ADTOE.

All of this stuff has made me wonder how we always think of Space-Dye Vest when talking about SDV instead of Strange Déja Vu

I never think of Space Dye Vest. Ever.

[wizard of Thought]

Aw for Awake is another weird one, like we can abbreviate every word by just putting the first two letters.

Now seriously, why even abbreviate a title which consists of ONE word. Awake is the most exaggerated one of course since the title is only 5 letters long. Why would anyone have to abbreviate this title or Octavarium?

[Kotowboy]

8 = octave VM ? Varium ?

But it's Octav-arium not Octave Varium.

8AM would be more appropriate. or OVM.

Or just write out Octavarium - because it takes like 1 second. Octavarium.

[Train of Naught]

8AM would be more appropriate.

No. That's confusing. Because everyone knows the official abbreviation for 6:00 is 6AM, too close.