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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6265 on: June 19, 2015, 07:41:26 AM »
Non-prog fan isn't a term. The correct term for that is "everybody". :lol
In this particular context, the correct term is "everybody else."  The overwhelming majority of people here would characterize themselves, in one way or another, as fans of prog.  You are the outlier.
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« Reply #6266 on: June 19, 2015, 07:48:44 AM »
Non-prog fan isn't a term. The correct term for that is "everybody". :lol
In this particular context, the correct term is "everybody else."  The overwhelming majority of people here would characterize themselves, in one way or another, as fans of prog.  You are the outlier.

But in reality, prog fans are the outliers, so that doesn't matter to me.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6267 on: June 19, 2015, 07:59:56 AM »
Non-prog fan isn't a term. The correct term for that is "everybody". :lol
In this particular context, the correct term is "everybody else."  The overwhelming majority of people here would characterize themselves, in one way or another, as fans of prog.  You are the outlier.

But in reality, prog fans are the outliers, so that doesn't matter to me.
THIS IS NOT REALITY
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« Reply #6268 on: June 19, 2015, 08:04:02 AM »
I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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« Reply #6269 on: June 19, 2015, 08:22:50 AM »
I do not think that there are many DT fans that do not like some of the "traditional prog" bands. I like Gentle Giant, Yes, ELP and Jethro Tull a lot. Do not care too much for Pink Floyd. Ironically, I do not like Prog metal bands, Being DT the ONLY exception.

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« Reply #6270 on: June 19, 2015, 08:31:18 AM »
THIS IS PROG SPARTA!!!
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6271 on: June 19, 2015, 08:50:28 AM »
Not sure why you guys are still arguing with Blob.  He dropped a "deal with it" at the end of the last page, so that means he wins whether he is right or not.
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« Reply #6272 on: June 19, 2015, 08:52:47 AM »
Not sure why you guys are still arguing with Blob.  He dropped a "deal with it" at the end of the last page, so that means he wins where he is right or not.

I wasn't sure whether it still held up outside of the jurisdiction of the musical "deal with it" thread, but apparently so.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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« Reply #6273 on: June 19, 2015, 08:53:59 AM »
No, it definitely does.  It is multi-jurisdictional.  Deal with it.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6274 on: June 19, 2015, 08:55:09 AM »
As co-owner of France, I cannot abide this ruling.

I hereby declare....

SHENANIGANS!
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« Reply #6275 on: June 19, 2015, 09:26:15 AM »
TRAITER AVEC ELLE! :lol

I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6276 on: June 19, 2015, 11:47:13 AM »
 :justjen
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« Reply #6277 on: June 19, 2015, 12:12:34 PM »
TRAITER AVEC ELLE! :lol

"Deal with her"?

Who is she? She's beautiful...
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« Reply #6278 on: June 19, 2015, 12:38:41 PM »
TRAITER AVEC ELLE! :lol

"Deal with her"?

Who is she? She's beautiful...

See!  Google translator sucks. :lol

Should have been "il"
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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« Reply #6279 on: June 19, 2015, 01:07:15 PM »
Fuck, king, you suck at English.  Why are you attempting French?
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« Reply #6280 on: June 19, 2015, 01:40:50 PM »
No. I suck at spelling english.  I took 4 years of french and I suck at that.  :lol
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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« Reply #6281 on: June 19, 2015, 01:57:23 PM »
Dammit
Hef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6282 on: June 19, 2015, 02:12:29 PM »
No. I suck at spelling english.  I took 4 years of french and I suck at that.  :lol
Google Translate needs to add a new language..Kingshmeglish.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #6283 on: June 19, 2015, 02:17:31 PM »
I just need an editor.  Blob has offered his services for a small fee. :lol
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6284 on: June 19, 2015, 05:07:35 PM »
what the hell is going on in here
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« Reply #6285 on: June 19, 2015, 06:21:42 PM »
I think that ToT has the best production / mix of any of their albums.


COME AT ME 6 DEGREE FUCKERS!
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« Reply #6286 on: June 19, 2015, 06:25:15 PM »
I think that ToT has the best production / mix of any of their albums.


COME AT ME 6 DEGREE FUCKERS!

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« Reply #6287 on: June 19, 2015, 06:46:38 PM »
I think that ToT has the best production / mix of any of their albums.


COME AT ME 6 DEGREE FUCKERS!

I f "better" means that it's the production/mix that best fits the songs on the album (which I think it does) I agree.

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« Reply #6288 on: June 19, 2015, 07:34:22 PM »
By best I mean it's my favourite. 8VRM comes close but falls flat. FII is great as well, Images and Awake sound dated, Scenes has mix issues. I really enjoy SC but the compression makes it a bit meh. ADTOE falls flatter than 8VRM... DT12 and Black Clouds... we all know the issues there...


And I don't listen to 6DOIT enough to give a damn
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #6289 on: June 19, 2015, 07:45:57 PM »
Yes, agree. It's not my personal favourite (I don't love the drums sound), but it certainly delivers exactly what the songs ask. ToT is overall one of my favourite albums.  And perhaps the most different from anything else.

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« Reply #6290 on: June 19, 2015, 09:49:21 PM »
By best I mean it's my favourite.

I'll back you up on this. ToT sounds amazing. Every time I put it on it's like John Myung breaks down my front door, sets up his cab in front of my face and starts grooving. Love it.

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« Reply #6291 on: June 19, 2015, 10:06:16 PM »
COME AT ME 6 DEGREE FUCKERS!

And I don't listen to 6DOIT enough to give a damn


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« Reply #6292 on: June 20, 2015, 02:02:31 AM »
Most Overrated album: Black Clouds.... ewwwwwww  :\

I mean, Count of Tuscany is the most anti-climatic thing they've done
Shattered Fortress is a bad joke, the laziest way of finishing the AA suite
A Passage something is their tribute to singles and Metallica
The other ones are ok, except for Best of Times that I think it's the one song made with true heart.

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« Reply #6293 on: June 20, 2015, 02:05:54 AM »
How can an album be overrated when it's not highly rated to begin with? That's not controversial on DTF (unfortunately). If anything, it's underrated.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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« Reply #6294 on: June 20, 2015, 02:13:54 AM »
If anything, it's underrated.

I've seen a lot of the opposite.
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« Reply #6295 on: June 20, 2015, 02:17:21 AM »
If anything, it's underrated.

I've seen a lot of the opposite.

I'd like to see links to this mythical place, because it sure ain't DTF.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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« Reply #6296 on: June 20, 2015, 02:22:14 AM »
If anything, it's underrated.

I've seen a lot of the opposite.

I'd like to see links to this mythical place, because it sure ain't DTF.

See, this is controversial.

I have to give you that, not DTF, I was a member here until Systematic Chaos so I don't know what the popular opinion here was

It's just my opinion, I got frustrated after the BC&SL show I attended, it exacerbated my position towards this album.
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« Reply #6297 on: June 20, 2015, 02:36:57 AM »
Then maybe stick around for more than 15 posts before deciding what warrants being in the "controversial opinion" thread here in future. :P
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« Reply #6298 on: June 20, 2015, 11:47:26 AM »
Then maybe stick around for more than 15 posts before deciding what warrants being in the "controversial opinion" thread here in future. :P

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« Reply #6299 on: June 20, 2015, 11:54:20 AM »
He's at 16 now.

Legit.








Oh another controversial opinion:

I really enjoy New Millennium. 
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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