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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5880 on: January 06, 2015, 11:32:02 AM »
I think his lead sound has improved over the years, but his clean sound has moved from a somewhat Gilmore-esque touch to this very chorus-laden one. I wish he explored that old sound again a bit more.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5881 on: January 06, 2015, 11:46:33 AM »
As far as his sound live, my favourite is Once in a Livetime.

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« Reply #5882 on: January 06, 2015, 12:17:06 PM »
I liked his sound on Train of Thought a lot. All the shedding sounds very smooth. Every note is crystal clear.
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« Reply #5883 on: January 06, 2015, 06:56:02 PM »
Well, maybe I sold him a little short.  FII had outstanding tone.

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« Reply #5884 on: January 12, 2015, 04:00:34 PM »
Through Her Eyes is a good song and has a very strong performance from Myung - simple but effective.

6:00 is utter crap.


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« Reply #5885 on: January 12, 2015, 04:56:42 PM »
Myung's performance is the only good thing about Through Her Eyes.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5886 on: January 12, 2015, 05:06:24 PM »
Myung's performance is the only good thing about Through Her Eyes.

No, the vocals and lyrics are pretty good too. It's a great pacer  on the album.
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« Reply #5887 on: January 12, 2015, 06:05:58 PM »
Through Her Eyes is a good song and has a very strong performance from Myung - simple but effective.

While THE is not a song I would listen to outside of SFAM, it works very well in context and serves as a refreshing breather between BTL and Home. SFAM would definitely be weaker in its absense.

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6:00 is utter crap.

Normally I am all for opposing opinions, but this is just... wrong. :lol
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« Reply #5888 on: January 12, 2015, 06:44:06 PM »
Myung's performance is the only good thing about Through Her Eyes.

No, the vocals and lyrics are pretty good too. It's a great pacer  on the album.
Can't really agree with that. The lyrics are pretty poorly written imo and JLB's delivery doesn't do them any favors.
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« Reply #5889 on: January 12, 2015, 06:48:36 PM »
JLB's gritty Hetfield voice is beautiful.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5890 on: January 13, 2015, 07:49:51 AM »
Myung's performance is the only good thing about Through Her Eyes.

No, the vocals and lyrics are pretty good too. It's a great pacer  on the album.
Can't really agree with that. The lyrics are pretty poorly written imo and JLB's delivery doesn't do them any favors.
I disagree.  I think it's a fantastic song.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5891 on: January 13, 2015, 08:42:19 AM »
Great song. If only for the pigeons. The PIGEONS!!!
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« Reply #5892 on: January 13, 2015, 10:15:10 AM »
I think his lead sound has improved over the years, but his clean sound has moved from a somewhat Gilmore-esque touch to this very chorus-laden one. I wish he explored that old sound again a bit more.

I'll give you a big +1 for that opinion.  I think his album clean tones are awesome... but his live clean tone is soaking wet and the effect is too deep for my taste.  I can remember seeing DT during the TOT tour and thinking that his live clean tone was better than his high-gain rhythm tone.

IMO, his lead tone has always been spectacular; I remember sitting with my first amp back in 94 and trying to find that tone.  It's a bit easier now with the modeling amps.

As far as controversial opinions go, that's about as close as I can get.  In all honesty, I agree with those whose state his tone (across the board) hasn't been matched since Awake... with the closest two albums (imo) being FII and BCASL.  The last part of that sentence may be somewhat controversial.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5893 on: January 16, 2015, 11:08:40 AM »
Scarred is a good song

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« Reply #5894 on: January 16, 2015, 11:15:56 AM »
Scarred is a good song

 Never thought this would be controversial...Scarred kicks ass!!!

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« Reply #5895 on: January 16, 2015, 11:31:55 AM »
Scarred is a good song

 Never thought this would be controversial...Scarred kicks ass!!!
:lol I don't know man, I've seen a lot of people disliking it here and there.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5896 on: January 16, 2015, 11:48:18 AM »
They are wrong.
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« Reply #5897 on: January 16, 2015, 12:55:37 PM »
They are wrong.

This.

I don't know if I'd call liking it a controversial opinion though. It's probably DT's most polarizing song. Some love it, and some loathe it. Very few I find are in the middle ground about it.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5898 on: January 16, 2015, 01:14:54 PM »
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #5899 on: January 16, 2015, 01:55:14 PM »
They are wrong.

This.

I don't know if I'd call liking it a controversial opinion though. It's probably DT's most polarizing song. Some love it, and some loathe it. Very few I find are in the middle ground about it.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5900 on: January 16, 2015, 02:30:44 PM »
Scarred is a one of DT's few legitimate masterpieces.

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« Reply #5901 on: January 16, 2015, 03:12:09 PM »
Scarred is a one of DT's MANY legitimate masterpieces.

Fixed.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5902 on: January 16, 2015, 03:31:17 PM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #5903 on: January 16, 2015, 03:55:38 PM »
They are wrong.

This.

I don't know if I'd call liking it a controversial opinion though. It's probably DT's most polarizing song. Some love it, and some loathe it. Very few I find are in the middle ground about it.
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And it comes right after too. :facepalm:

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« Reply #5904 on: January 16, 2015, 04:27:04 PM »
They are wrong.

This.

I don't know if I'd call liking it a controversial opinion though. It's probably DT's most polarizing song. Some love it, and some loathe it. Very few I find are in the middle ground about it.
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« Reply #5905 on: January 16, 2015, 04:38:38 PM »
No.  Not even close on those.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5906 on: January 16, 2015, 04:41:32 PM »
I don't think I've seen much outright hate for IT, the worst seems to be just general apathy. Same for TGD, really, though I love it personally.

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« Reply #5907 on: January 16, 2015, 05:40:53 PM »
Yeah, the love that some people have for The Great Debate is one that I will never get, but I like it alright.

I feel the same way about The Looking Glass, which might be controversial.
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« Reply #5908 on: January 16, 2015, 06:05:11 PM »
Scarred is a one of DT's MANY legitimate masterpieces.

Fixed.
So true.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #5909 on: January 16, 2015, 06:19:18 PM »
Controversial opinion

Mike Portnoy was right:  creatively
Dream Theater was right:  structurally

The break most likely would have produced great results in terms of songwriting.

The break didn't necessarily favor Portnoy over the other DT members in terms of finance.  The real damage would have been that it took DT a long time to set up its management teams (for the recordings and the road crew).  Great employees require structure to keep them.  If you run out of work for them or can't give them a definitive schedule, they will have to find work elsewhere and then you can't expect them to drop everything when you are ready for them.

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« Reply #5910 on: January 18, 2015, 06:28:41 AM »
I like ADTOE a lot more than the latest album.
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« Reply #5911 on: January 18, 2015, 06:29:49 AM »
I don't think that's controversial. I also happen to agree.
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« Reply #5912 on: January 18, 2015, 06:30:02 AM »
I don't think that's controversial. I also happen to agree.

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« Reply #5913 on: January 18, 2015, 06:43:00 AM »
Scarred is a one of DT's few legitimate masterpieces.

That's such an overused word now.  Masterpiece technically should refer to THE greatest work of an artist, meaning a band like Dream Theater's best work is their masterpiece, but the word has gotten so overused over the years that it is commonly used now to refer to just about any work of art considered great.  The word has lost much of its luster.

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« Reply #5914 on: January 18, 2015, 06:52:36 AM »
OTBOA is the only "WOW" song on the album ?! 


Yeah, that's controversial.
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