Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[TheGreatPretender]

Enter Sandman = Peruvian Skies.

Only the heavier riffs. The more melodic parts, such as the beginning of the song, sound nothing like Metallica.

[davidolson22]

As I Am is awesome, and definitely has a Metallica vibe.  But as far as definite 'nods' (i'd prefer to call them 'rips') Enter Sandman = Peruvian Skies.

Now that's funny. I agree that the main riff sounds similar to Enter Sandman, however the song as a whole doesn't seem to me to have much of a Metallica style.

[sneakyblueberry]

  i guess thats because when its not ripping ES its busy being derivative of Pink Floyd, The Beatles and Hendrix.  Still a great song tho.  Off a great album.

Enter Sandman = Peruvian Skies.

Only the heavier riffs. The more melodic parts, such as the beginning of the song, sound nothing like Metallica.

Well the heavier riffs are built off the clean chord progressions in the start, yeah? Which in itself is the essence of ES.

[TheGreatPretender]

Well the heavier riffs are built off the clean chord progressions in the start, yeah? Which in itself is the essence of ES.

Perhaps, but still, if you take Peruvian Skies, and that whole more melodic, softer part at the beginning absolutely does not remind me of Enter Sandman or anything Metallica related in any way.

[sneakyblueberry]

Well the heavier riffs are built off the clean chord progressions in the start, yeah? Which in itself is the essence of ES.

Perhaps, but still, if you take Peruvian Skies, and that whole more melodic, softer part at the beginning absolutely does not remind me of Enter Sandman or anything Metallica related in any way.

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

[TheGreatPretender]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

[sneakyblueberry]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

I dunno about ES but I definitely hear the Metallica vibe in AIA.  I don't know what Blob's on

[TheGreatPretender]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

I dunno about ES but I definitely hear the Metallica vibe in AIA.  I don't know what Blob's on

For the record, ES in this case stands for Enter Sandman, not Endless Sacrifice. 

[sneakyblueberry]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

I dunno about ES but I definitely hear the Metallica vibe in AIA.  I don't know what Blob's on

For the record, ES in this case stands for Enter Sandman, not Endless Sacrifice. 

Oh whoops.  I'd been using ES to mean Enter Sandman anyway on account of the fact that I hate Endless Sacrifice.

lolcontroversy

[BlobVanDam]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

I dunno about ES but I definitely hear the Metallica vibe in AIA.  I don't know what Blob's on

Maybe it's a case of what I'm not on. In almost a decade on this forum, this is the first I've ever heard of As I Am having any resemblance to Enter Sandman. Given that I've been very familiar with both songs for over a decade, if there was any resemblance, it's something I would have noticed.
I think a lot of people have very "vague" ears.

[Jaffa]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

I dunno about ES but I definitely hear the Metallica vibe in AIA.  I don't know what Blob's on

Maybe it's a case of what I'm not on.

Why, did you stop taking your medication again?

[BlobVanDam]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

I dunno about ES but I definitely hear the Metallica vibe in AIA.  I don't know what Blob's on

Maybe it's a case of what I'm not on.

Why, did you stop taking your medication again?

I must have if I let you out of your cage. Get back in there!

[Jaffa]

   okay

[Sycsa]

Meh.  I always thought it was pretty obvious.  Even more glaringly obvious when you hear it on Once in a Livetime

In fact it never occurred to me at all until I did hear that performance.

But hey, I thought that Enter Sandman's influence on As I Am was glaringly obvious, but apparently, some people don't hear it, so there's all sorts of craziness in this world, apparently.

I dunno about ES but I definitely hear the Metallica vibe in AIA.  I don't know what Blob's on

Maybe it's a case of what I'm not on. In almost a decade on this forum, this is the first I've ever heard of As I Am having any resemblance to Enter Sandman. Given that I've been very familiar with both songs for over a decade, if there was any resemblance, it's something I would have noticed.
I think a lot of people have very "vague" ears.

You really claim that 6:50 of As I Am, with the riff and the "as I aaeaam...yeah" part doesn't show any resemblance to Metallica? It's like James is doing a James impression. Can't believe this has been going on for three pages now.

[JiM-Xtreme]

I forgot that structurally and stylistically, ES and SoC share ideas with WH and Orion respectively. Kind of like I&W and ADTOE. Sound the same... not really at all.

Actually, the "similarity" between SoC and Orion is something that occurred to me the other day. I mean, I haven't looked at it in any detail but I doubt that even the structure has that much in common, but I'm sure that SoC was intended to invoke Orion vibes when it was written. Especially when you look at it's placement on the album, as the penultimate track.

[425]

Enter Sandman = Peruvian Skies.

Only the heavier riffs. The more melodic parts, such as the beginning of the song, sound nothing like Metallica.

Ummm... Have you heard Bleeding Me before? The intro to it and the intro to Peruvian Skies sound very similar.

[TheGreatPretender]

Ummm... Have you heard Bleeding Me before?

No, I have not.

[425]

Give it a listen. It's one of the best songs on Load (actually, I think it's one of the best Metallica songs period) and you'll recognize the inspiration for that Peruvian Skies intro right away.

[Prog Snob]

Enter Sandman = Peruvian Skies.

Only the heavier riffs. The more melodic parts, such as the beginning of the song, sound nothing like Metallica.

Ummm... Have you heard Bleeding Me before? The intro to it and the intro to Peruvian Skies sound very similar.

Yes, they do have their similarities. 

[BlobVanDam]

They're not that close either. They both start with a similar tempo clean guitar in E (Eb in the case of Metallica, but they're playing in E, so close enough) with a vaguely similar bluesy vibe (which is nothing unique), but that's faaaaaaaar from inspiration.

[jakepriest]

Inspired or not As I Am is better than anything Metallica has ever written. Period.

[davidolson22]

Some Dream Theater songs seem to be inspired by James Bond:

(Die) Another Day
(The world is) Never Enough

Maybe I'm imagining it though

[Lucien]

"Seasons change and so can I"

"Seasons change and so did I, you need not wonder whyyyyyyyyyyyy" -I forget the name of this song

[TheGreatPretender]

Inspired or not As I Am is better than anything Metallica has ever written. Period.

Well, that's a given.

As I Am is awesome enough to have inspired Metallica's Black Album 12 years prior to its own release.

[RodrigoAltaf]

Inspired or not As I Am is better than anything Metallica has ever written. Period.

Well, that's a given.

As I Am is awesome enough to have inspired Metallica's Black Album 12 years prior to its own release.

Nah, I think it actually inspired MAster of Puppets instead, which makes As I Am even MORE awesome!

[jakepriest]

Inspired or not As I Am is better than anything Metallica has ever written. Period.

Well, that's a given.

As I Am is awesome enough to have inspired Metallica's Black Album 12 years prior to its own release.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

[TheGreatPretender]

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

Stupid writing and lack of tone. No, it's not sarcasm. As I Am kicks more ass than any Metallica song. 

[KevShmev]

Enter Sandman = Peruvian Skies.

Only the heavier riffs. The more melodic parts, such as the beginning of the song, sound nothing like Metallica.

Ummm... Have you heard Bleeding Me before? The intro to it and the intro to Peruvian Skies sound very similar.

Yep, the similarity there was blatantly obvious to me the very first time I heard Peruvian Skies.  That's up there with This Dying Soul/Blackened, Solitary Shell/Yes, etc. as far as similarities in DT songs that were obvious to me on the first listen.

[Zook]

DT's my favorite band, but there are so many better Metallica songs than As I Am.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

DT's my favorite band, but there are so many better Metallica songs than As I Am.

I really don't have a favorite band, but pretty much this.

[rumborak]

DT's my favorite band, but there are so many better Metallica songs than As I Am.

I only really ever liked the Black Album, but let's be honest here, at least half of the songs on it are better than As I Am.

[RodrigoAltaf]

 I really liked Metallica up to the Black Album. Since then they went down Pop Music Lane, and then sounded way too forced when they tried to come back to more "organic" metal.

[Prog Snob]

Metallica doesn't do much for me these days.  I've grown bored with them.  There are maybe a handful of songs I'd probably say are still good to me and with the exception of Bleeding Me, none of them are more recent than the Black Album.

[KevShmev]

I really liked Metallica up to the Black Album. Since then they went down Pop Music Lane, and then sounded way too forced when they tried to come back to more "organic" metal.

 

I won't defend a lot of the crap they've put out in the last 20 years, but Pop Music Lane?  What songs on Load, ReLoad or St. Anger sound like pop music?  I'd love to know.

[RodrigoAltaf]

 Not pop like LAdy GAga or Miley Cyrus, but more like Bon Jovi, Cinderella etc...

 Example of songs like that: Hero of the Day, Until It Sleeps, that Mission Impossible song and a bunch of others. Then they tried to return to a heavier sound, and an aberration called St. Anger came to life.