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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1260 on: August 18, 2013, 09:44:10 AM »
I've been a DT fan for 4 years and have never seen anyone call I&W the weakest album before :omg: Well, there's a first time for everything.

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« Reply #1261 on: August 18, 2013, 09:44:32 AM »
Images and Words is their weakest album to date - it lacks a truly great song in my eyes and Metropolis is horribly overrated. If anything, James LaBrie is the star of that song.

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« Reply #1262 on: August 18, 2013, 10:01:46 AM »
Not the weakest, but definitely the fourth weakest. And if it wasn't for   Metropolis and UAGM, it would be the third weakest for sure.

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« Reply #1263 on: August 18, 2013, 10:05:48 AM »
IaW wasn't even the weakest DT album by the time it was released. :lol


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« Reply #1264 on: August 18, 2013, 10:10:42 AM »
But it already was the second weakest ::)

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« Reply #1265 on: August 18, 2013, 10:25:02 AM »
I haven't heard the debut - but Awake is pretty much the only album I can't listen to all the way through.


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« Reply #1266 on: August 18, 2013, 10:26:08 AM »
But it already was a top 2 album :)
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« Reply #1267 on: August 18, 2013, 10:28:53 AM »
I haven't heard the debut - but Awake is pretty much the only album I can't listen to all the way through.

You have never listened to When Dream And  Day Unite?  :o
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« Reply #1268 on: August 18, 2013, 10:33:15 AM »
Never. I always put a song on then the production and singing just kills it.

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« Reply #1269 on: August 18, 2013, 10:35:13 AM »
Never. I always put a song on then the production and singing just kills it.

Oh, but you know the songs, right? If that's so, then I'm alright with that, I never listen to the original disc either.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1270 on: August 18, 2013, 10:42:44 AM »
I am aware of their existence and place in the overall DreamTheater canon.

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« Reply #1271 on: August 18, 2013, 11:19:51 AM »
You can't listen to Awake all the way through? :omg:

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« Reply #1272 on: August 18, 2013, 11:59:25 AM »
Images and Words is their weakest album to date - it lacks a truly great song in my eyes and Metropolis is horribly overrated. If anything, James LaBrie is the star of that song.

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« Reply #1273 on: August 18, 2013, 12:40:13 PM »
Images and Words is their weakest album to date - it lacks a truly great song in my eyes and Metropolis is horribly overrated. If anything, James LaBrie is the star of that song.

But, but...Swimming in a lake of fire! ..... ???

He likes Rage Against the Machine. What do you expect? :D

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« Reply #1274 on: August 19, 2013, 01:17:04 AM »
Thought I didn't have many at first, but looking back... Well, here we go.

Dominici sounds good on Afterlife, and actually a large portion of WDADU. I just don't think he sounds good live.

Which brings me to another point, I've never listened to WDADU from beginning to end.

These Walls is overrated.

Space Dye Vest is overrated. Slightly.

SFAM I feel loses it's shine quickly compared to other DT albums, but each individual song is great.

Train of Thought as a whole is cumbersome and a bit boring, despite being on the shorter side. Again, I like each individual song.

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« Reply #1275 on: August 19, 2013, 08:59:34 AM »
Thought I didn't have many at first, but looking back... Well, here we go.

Dominici sounds good on Afterlife, and actually a large portion of WDADU. I just don't think he sounds good live.

Which brings me to another point, I've never listened to WDADU in full.

These Walls is overrated.

Space Dye Vest is overrated. Slightly.

SFAM is great for the first couple of listens, but VERY quickly loses it's shine as a whole. Almost more so than any other DT album. I think the songs individually are great though.

Train of Thought as a whole is cumbersome and a bit boring, despite being on the shorter side. Again, I like each individual song.

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« Reply #1276 on: August 19, 2013, 09:10:18 AM »
Thought I didn't have many at first, but looking back... Well, here we go.

Dominici sounds good on Afterlife, and actually a large portion of WDADU. I just don't think he sounds good live.

Which brings me to another point, I've never listened to WDADU in full.

These Walls is overrated.

Space Dye Vest is overrated. Slightly.

SFAM is great for the first couple of listens, but VERY quickly loses it's shine as a whole. Almost more so than any other DT album. I think the songs individually are great though.

Train of Thought as a whole is cumbersome and a bit boring, despite being on the shorter side. Again, I like each individual song.

Disagreed with all of this. Apart from the Dominici statement and me loving the individual songs as well.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1277 on: August 19, 2013, 09:19:03 AM »
I might listen to individual songs from the latter albums more, but as a whole, When Dream and Day Unite is better than Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds & Silver Linings.

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« Reply #1278 on: August 19, 2013, 09:33:23 AM »
I might listen to individual songs from the latter albums more, but as a whole, When Dream and Day Unite is better than Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds & Silver Linings.


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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1279 on: August 19, 2013, 10:13:11 AM »
Images and Words is their weakest album to date - it lacks a truly great song in my eyes and Metropolis is horribly overrated. If anything, James LaBrie is the star of that song.

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« Reply #1282 on: August 19, 2013, 12:45:07 PM »
SFAM is way too concept-y and is one of their worst albums.  Reminds me of Tales of Topographic Oceans by Yes.
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« Reply #1283 on: August 19, 2013, 12:58:44 PM »
SFAM is way too concept-y and is one of their worst albums.  Reminds me of Tales of Topographic Oceans by Yes.

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« Reply #1284 on: August 19, 2013, 01:27:14 PM »
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« Reply #1285 on: August 19, 2013, 01:28:24 PM »
SFAM is way too concept-y and is one of their worst albums.  Reminds me of Tales of Topographic Oceans by Yes.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #1286 on: August 19, 2013, 01:45:24 PM »
I Walk Beside You is one of the best songs on Octavarium.
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« Reply #1287 on: August 19, 2013, 02:09:07 PM »
IWBY isn't that bad, it's probably my favorite U2 song :neverusethis:

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« Reply #1288 on: August 19, 2013, 02:34:07 PM »
The Answer Lies Within is my favorite song off Octavarium other than the title-track itself.

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« Reply #1289 on: August 19, 2013, 02:35:30 PM »
These Walls is my favorite Dream Theater song. Ever.
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« Reply #1290 on: August 19, 2013, 02:39:46 PM »
These Walls is my favorite Dream Theater song. Ever.

Mine is either Octavarium or Lines In The Sand.

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« Reply #1291 on: August 19, 2013, 02:56:15 PM »
The Answer Lies Within is my favorite song off Octavarium other than the title-track itself.

Yesyesyes. Such a great song. So underrated.

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« Reply #1292 on: August 19, 2013, 03:51:42 PM »
SFAM is way too concept-y and is one of their worst albums.  Reminds me of Tales of Topographic Oceans by Yes.

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« Reply #1293 on: August 19, 2013, 04:01:31 PM »
Yeah Yeah, and SDOIT really reminds me of Relayer!

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« Reply #1294 on: August 19, 2013, 09:31:35 PM »
Yeah Yeah, and SDOIT really reminds me of Relayer!

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Gates of Delirium is awesome!  Topographic Oceans, on the other hand, seems to just meander aimlessly through a nebulous idea that was never fully developed.  It sounds like they didn't have a plan and just started jamming.  With SFAM, all the songs just seem to blend together as one--but not in a good way like the title track of SDOIT.  They blend together because they're all of the same narrow tone/mood/sound/whatever and there's little dynamism in this area, and there's not enough hook-based parts to give it some shape.  There has to be a balance between having a hook/riff and jamming/meandering in between.  Close to the Edge is perfect in this balance.
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