Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[Whatsername]

I think Solitary Shell is one of the best songs DT have ever written.

I don't know if I'd say one of the best EVER, but it's certainly one of my favorites.

That's sold it for me then. I'll have to get ahold of it to listen to it, even though my JLB fangirl heart will be saddened by not hearing his vocals.

Think of it this way: If you discover all the songs from WDADU from the original recording, listen a few times, pick some favorites, and then RE-discover how amazing those songs become when you find a better recording of JLB doing it, it'll be an amazing experience!

Ooh, I like that plan!

[wasteland]

You should get a copy of "When Dream And James Unite". Just sayin' 

Quite easy to obtain, but if you have any trouble with it, request it in the bootleg thread and it will be uploaded.

[Onno]

You should get a copy of "When Dream And James Unite". Just sayin' 

Quite easy to obtain, but if you have any trouble with it, request it in the bootleg thread and it will be uploaded.

That sounds really cool. I've just searched for it but other than a few bootleg info sites, I can't find the bootleg itself. I might just request it there.

[Whatsername]

You should get a copy of "When Dream And James Unite". Just sayin' 

Quite easy to obtain, but if you have any trouble with it, request it in the bootleg thread and it will be uploaded.

What is this?

[The Boomr]

You should get a copy of "When Dream And James Unite". Just sayin' 

Quite easy to obtain, but if you have any trouble with it, request it in the bootleg thread and it will be uploaded.

What is this?

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

It's a bootleg, I believe.

[wasteland]

Yeah, it's a recollection of live performances of the WDADU songs by JLB from the early days (that is 92-93 with a single one from 94), plus some other 92 goodies.

[TheGreatPretender]

How's the quality?

[wasteland]

Ranges from good to not so good. But good for the most. Keep in mind that it's audience recordings from 93, you can't expect LATM quality.

[TheGreatPretender]

Ranges from good to not so good. But good for the most. Keep in mind that it's audience recordings from 93, you can't expect LATM quality.

Right... So I don't think I'll bother.   

[Polis]

My favorite dt song is anna lee.

[Whatsername]

My favorite dt song is anna lee.

Can someone explain to me why this is so controversial? I mean, it isn't my favorite song by any stretch, but the amount of hate I see for this song seems disproportionate.

[Jaffa]

I don't know that I've really seen all that much hate for Anna Lee.  I've seen some hate, but I think most people are more indifferent to it than hateful of it. 

[johncal]

Ok, here's the deal. I got into DT in the Rudess years starting with SDOIT. Even though I went back and listened to the older stuff, Images and words, etc., (although I like the old stuff), I really prefer the newer stuff much more. It just suits my listening preferences a lot more. I guess if I had started with the really old stuff, I would like it more, but I don't.

To me the new stuff, ADTOE in particular is MUCH better than any of the older stuff.

[jsem]

I think Solitary Shell is one of the best songs DT have ever written.

Correct.

[ArchVile]

anally

[Joshin U]

anally

Quality comment, bro.

[docsp76]

Six Degrees, TOT, Oct are my favorite albums they've put out. I can't really listen to SFAM back anymore. They just haven't aged well for me. Six Degrees and BC&SL have my favorite heavy guitar tones.

[JohnnyLayne]

I know DT has been criticized in the past for the obvious influences in some songs (Never Enough), but what about DT being in the inspiration corner for other bands.

Just a few minutes ago, I stumbled upon this song from brazillian band Oficina G3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96j3foSEZ5Q

 

[Ruba]

I think Solitary Shell is one of the best songs DT have ever written.

Correct.

It's not a song, it's a movement!

[TheGreatPretender]

It's not a song, it's a movement!

Unless you count (of tuscany) Solitary Shell (Single Edit) from the Greatest Hit compilation.

[serrano]

At least we can agree that it's a track 

[wasteland]

At least we can agree that it's a track

[serrano]

 

[GasparXR]

This is our track. It's a track.

[Estiui]

Agreed with SS, disagreed with GK being a weak point. For me, those weak points are WIMH, TTTSTA and LT. Both ATCs and SS are truly masterpieces.

[BlobVanDam]

IMO the only weakness of SDOIT is THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BOW DOWN TO ITS ALMIGHTY PERFECTION.

[aprilethereal]

Without even mentioning disc 1, the weak points of SDOIT for me are the Overture (), WIMH, TTTSTA and Losing Time.

[jsem]

I think Solitary Shell is one of the best songs DT have ever written.

Correct.

It's not a song, it's a movement!

I know it's a movement within SDOIT, but it can be seen as a song and be judged by its own merit. Once done that way, I'd put it as a top 5 song.

[Lucidity]

I also think Overture is one of the best things DT have ever composed. Maybe not above top 20 or so for me, but from a songwriting/musical perspective, it is just fantastic.

[TheGreatPretender]

I also think Overture is one of the best things DT have ever composed. Maybe not above top 20 or so for me, but from a songwriting/musical perspective, it is just fantastic.

I think it's a hell of a lot better when performed by a real orchestra. But yes, it's a great piece of composition.

[fllnsprrw]

I don't think so. I was not as blown away when I heard it performed by only the orchestra in NY. Would've been cooler if the band  was playing along with them.  It needs to sound more like the studio version basically!

[BlobVanDam]

I also think Overture is one of the best things DT have ever composed. Maybe not above top 20 or so for me, but from a songwriting/musical perspective, it is just fantastic.

I concur. I think of SDOIT overall as their "melodic" epic, with ACOS being more of their modern prog epic, Octavarium more like their classic prog epic, and ITPOE as the metal epic. And Illumination Theory might be the cinematic epic, I guess?
But back to SDOIT, the melodies and songwriting are among DT's best, which is why SDOIT is perhaps my favourite DT song.

[The Boomr]

I also think Overture is one of the best things DT have ever composed. Maybe not above top 20 or so for me, but from a songwriting/musical perspective, it is just fantastic.

I think it's a hell of a lot better when performed by a real orchestra. But yes, it's a great piece of composition.

I think it would sound a hell of a lot better if it were performed by a better sounding real orchestra 

[Pocket Fulla Shells]

Images and Words is their weakest album to date - it lacks a truly great song in my eyes and Metropolis is horribly overrated. If anything, James LaBrie is the star of that song.