Author Topic: Decade Battle #8: 90s Dream Theater vs. every other decade ever (Read 5638 times)

LudwigVan · « **Reply #35 on:** November 16, 2012, 06:01:52 PM »

70s Zeppelin

After that, 70s Kansas and 70s Tull are real close to 90s DT.

nicmos · « **Reply #36 on:** November 16, 2012, 06:03:05 PM »

I'm surprised no one's thrown 00s Devin Townsend out there yet considering this board... but I probably wouldn't take it over 90s Dream Theater.

And yes, it's easy for FII to be in a best decade of music. That album is better than almost anything by any other band, (and better than ACOS).

jammindude · « **Reply #37 on:** November 16, 2012, 06:09:21 PM »

I picked 90's DT. I heard IAW the day it was released, and by the time I got to SFAM, I knew that they have forever usurped 70's Rush.

Big Hath · « **Reply #38 on:** November 16, 2012, 06:53:42 PM »

ok, so here is some data from the Top 50 Database. Understand that this only compiles the lists of people that have done top 50 threads, so it is not representative of DTF as a whole, just a small portion. And this has no way of comparing the worst albums by each band nor does it really show bands that had incredible consistency. I do find it interesting none the less. But some of this is downright silly.

Here is the top 20 artist/decade coupling:

Rank Decade Artist Points 1 1990s Dream Theater 1567 2 2000s Porcupine Tree/SW/No-Man/Bass Comm 1048 3 1970s Pink Floyd 935 4 2000s Devin Townsend/SYL 903 5 2000s Dream Theater 827 6 2000s Opeth 809 7 1980s Iron Maiden 667 8 2000s Thrice 535 9 1980s Metallica 500 10 2000s Between the Buried and Me 494 11 2000s Coheed and Cambria 484 12 2000s dredg 481 13 1980s Queensrÿche 416 14 1970s Yes 408 15 1980s Rush 355 16 2000s Pain of Salvation 347 17 2000s Radiohead 345 18 2000s Arjen Lucassen/Ayreon/Star One 341 19 2000s maudlin of the Well/Kayo Dot 338 20 2000s System of a Down 313

As I have been saying, Rush has been vastly underrated in these lists, especially considering the music this board listens to. 80's Rush at 15? 70's Rush didn't even make this list at 22! 80's Ryche, 70's Yes are also very low.

MasterLomaxus · « **Reply #39 on:** November 16, 2012, 06:55:19 PM »

1980s RUSH
2000s Dream Theater

1990s Dream Theater

Heretic · « **Reply #40 on:** November 16, 2012, 07:37:18 PM »

00's Thrice
00's Between the Buried and Me
00's Fair to Midland
00's Porcupine Tree
00's Avenged Sevenfold
00's Anathema
00's Coheed and Cambria

so actually this is a good thing for DT, it proves that their 90's work is my favorite body of work from the 90's, just not my favorite decade of music from any band.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #41 on:** November 16, 2012, 07:48:22 PM »

Quote from: Zydar on November 16, 2012, 12:13:09 PM

I vote 60's Beatles over anything.

Plus:

00's Opeth
70's Pink Floyd
00's Porcupine Tree

ColdFireYYZ · « **Reply #42 on:** November 16, 2012, 08:35:35 PM »

1980s Rush
2000s Porcupine Tree
1970s Yes (possibly)
1970s Van der Graaf Generator (possibly...I've been really into them lately)

If SDOIT was released in the 90s then I may have voted for DT.

Adami · « **Reply #43 on:** November 16, 2012, 08:37:54 PM »

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on November 16, 2012, 01:37:29 PM

Quote from: Adami on November 16, 2012, 01:00:41 PM
97' - 2007' Pain of Salvation blows everything away. Despite Scarsick being there.
It blows a shitload of stuff away but... Images, Awake...

Gee, I dunno - extend that decade to SDOIT and it is definitely my favorite ever.

Awake is my fav DT album, but I like PoS a lot more than DT and TPE is my favorite album ever, so it's always going to win with me.

rogerdil · « **Reply #44 on:** November 16, 2012, 09:49:39 PM »

70s Yes is only 14th? /playoffs?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #45 on:** November 16, 2012, 10:21:42 PM »

Ok, '90s DT has-

IaW - mostly perfect
Awake - don't much care for as a whole, but several good songs
FII - one of my favourites with a few clunkers
SFAM - damn near perfect

3 of my top 4 DT albums, excluding #1. That's a good run. I think the closest contender for me would be '80s VH, helped by the fact that they were much more prolific, although not quite as consistent, so it's kind of apples to oranges.

That would be a tough call for me. Right now I'm leaning towards VH, but not enough to vote quite yet.

Elite · « **Reply #46 on:** November 16, 2012, 10:26:46 PM »

90s DT has my #1 (Images & Words) and a top 10 album (Awake) of all time, so I went with that.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #47 on:** November 16, 2012, 10:51:42 PM »

Quote from: rogerdil on November 16, 2012, 09:49:39 PM

70s Yes is only 14th? /playoffs?

I'd probably shit my pants laughing if MoraWintersoul recorded her own cover of Jim Mora's "playoffs?!?!" rant.

Dillster22 · « **Reply #48 on:** November 17, 2012, 12:06:05 AM »

70s Pink Floyd

? · « **Reply #49 on:** November 17, 2012, 01:02:12 AM »

As much as I love Images, Awake and Scenes, I can't vote for DT. I don't like FII that much and some bands have been even better during some decade, for example these:

90s Paradise Lost
00s Katatonia
90s Opeth
90s Porcupine Tree
00s OSI

lonestar · « **Reply #50 on:** November 17, 2012, 01:06:22 AM »

Quote from: black_floyd on November 16, 2012, 10:51:42 PM

Quote from: rogerdil on November 16, 2012, 09:49:39 PM
70s Yes is only 14th? /playoffs?

I'd probably shit my pants laughing if MoraWintersoul recorded her own cover of Jim Mora's "playoffs?!?!" rant.

We must make this happen....

Jirpo · « **Reply #51 on:** November 17, 2012, 01:26:46 AM »

Not even close for me, easily other bands. The only album I really listen to by DT is Images and Words. I used to love the others but not so much anymore.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #52 on:** November 17, 2012, 03:46:00 AM »

I forgot a few bands, so along with Death:
00's Exodus
00's Devin Townsend
00's A Life Once Lost

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #53 on:** November 17, 2012, 06:09:02 AM »

Quote from: Adami on November 16, 2012, 08:37:54 PM

Awake is my fav DT album, but I like PoS a lot more than DT and TPE is my favorite album ever, so it's always going to win with me.

TPE is definitely in my top 10, not sure about top 5 but it might be in there

Quote from: lonestar on November 17, 2012, 01:06:22 AM

Quote from: black_floyd on November 16, 2012, 10:51:42 PM
Quote from: rogerdil on November 16, 2012, 09:49:39 PM
70s Yes is only 14th? /playoffs?

I'd probably shit my pants laughing if MoraWintersoul recorded her own cover of Jim Mora's "playoffs?!?!" rant.

We must make this happen....

At least link me up with it, I'm not a sports fan

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #54 on:** November 17, 2012, 07:30:21 AM »

The infamous rant. The part we're referencing occurs at 0:40-ish.

If that tickled your fancy and you've got 42 more seconds of your time to waste, here's one that I like a little more for its sheer frankness.

Big Hath · « **Reply #55 on:** November 17, 2012, 08:35:29 AM »

I've always enjoyed the second one more. The inclusion of "diddly poo" makes it the winner.

Jaffa · « **Reply #56 on:** November 17, 2012, 07:12:03 PM »

pogoowner · « **Reply #57 on:** November 17, 2012, 10:57:42 PM »

70s Kansas

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #58 on:** November 17, 2012, 11:02:01 PM »

Quote from: Big Hath on November 17, 2012, 08:35:29 AM

I've always enjoyed the second one more. The inclusion of "diddly poo" makes it the winner.

Sketchy · « **Reply #59 on:** November 18, 2012, 06:03:00 AM »

90s DT is truly amazing, but 70s Floyd is my drug of choice.

Ruba · « **Reply #60 on:** November 18, 2012, 08:34:11 AM »

Any other.

00s Animal Alpha
90s Nightwish
10s Djerv

But I can't think of a full decade which I'd enjoy more (AA was only 7 years active, NW 4 and Djerv 3). 80s Queensrÿche and 80s and 90s Ministry come very close though.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #61 on:** November 18, 2012, 09:34:04 AM »

00's Between the Buried and Me
00's Avenged Sevenfold
00's Coheed and Cambria

Also... 00's Dream Theater.

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #62 on:** November 18, 2012, 02:42:12 PM »

Quote from: black_floyd on November 17, 2012, 07:30:21 AM

The infamous rant. The part we're referencing occurs at 0:40-ish.

If that tickled your fancy and you've got 42 more seconds of your time to waste, here's one that I like a little more for its sheer frankness.

I don't think I could do that

wolfking · « **Reply #63 on:** November 18, 2012, 04:14:01 PM »

There's probably heaps of other bands I'd take a decade of music over over DT.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #64 on:** November 18, 2012, 04:59:29 PM »

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on November 18, 2012, 02:42:12 PM

Quote from: black_floyd on November 17, 2012, 07:30:21 AM
The infamous rant. The part we're referencing occurs at 0:40-ish.

If that tickled your fancy and you've got 42 more seconds of your time to waste, here's one that I like a little more for its sheer frankness.
I don't think I could do that

Yeah. Even people speak English as their first language wouldn't have a very easy time with it. Jim Mora has this chaotic tendency to interrupt himself mid-sentence when he's worked up about something.

MoraWintersoul · « **Reply #65 on:** November 18, 2012, 05:23:30 PM »

Quote from: black_floyd on November 18, 2012, 04:59:29 PM

Yeah. Even people speak English as their first language wouldn't have a very easy time with it. Jim Mora has this chaotic tendency to interrupt himself mid-sentence when he's worked up about something.

Sounds like several of my teachers... and then they wonder why our notes look like crap

Anyway, I did decide there's no decade of music I like better than 90's DT, ESPECIALLY when you extend it to 02, since most people are cheating by extending and arbitrarily deciding on boundaries anyway.

DT in the 90's had no missteps for me which can't be said for any other decade by any other of my fave bands, and even if that is the case, the highs are generally not as high. Some of my other favorite bands haven't put out more than three albums in one decade, also. I think the fact I'm not overly enamoured with whatever MA/SW are doing helps me differ from the rest of the forum

Bands that come close:
00's Dark Tranquillity
70's Queen
80's Queen (not without a misstep either)
00's Riverside
90's Dark Tranquillity (with Skydancer being the less-shiny debut and The Mind's Eye being a bit dull, but the other two, WHOA)
00's PoS
00's OSI (only three albums)
00's Amorphis (and only the second half... see why this is hard?)
00's Sonata Arctica

Dark Castle · « **Reply #66 on:** November 18, 2012, 06:26:04 PM »

I really want to say 10's Kvelertak, but they're second album doesn't come out until early next year

But god damn Kvelertak

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #67 on:** November 18, 2012, 06:29:16 PM »

I forgot to add 90s Floater to my list.

ThatcrazyKISSfan · « **Reply #68 on:** November 18, 2012, 07:28:22 PM »

For me it's a tough call between 90s DT, 70s Genesis, and 70s KISS.

The Dark Master · « **Reply #69 on:** November 18, 2012, 09:16:29 PM »

Hmmmm, this is a tough one. On the one hand, all of my favourite Dream Theater albums and songs are from their 90's output. On the other hand, though, I can think of a couple of bands that I like that had decades that rival DT's 90's run, namely:

90's Savatage: Streets, Edge Of Thorns, Handful Of Rain, Dead Winter Dead, Wake Of Magellan
80's Queensryche: s/tEP, The Warning, Rage For Order, Operation: Mindcrime

I&W/Awake/ACOS/FII/SFAM is more or less equal in my mind to QR's EP/Warning/RFO/O:M, and that Savatage run of Streets/EOT/HOR/DWD/TWOM is just absolutely godly.

So no, DT does not have the best decade of music IMO. Definitely in the top three, but I think Savatage wins this one for me, with DT and QR being tied for second.

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Author Topic: Decade Battle #8: 90s Dream Theater vs. every other decade ever (Read 5638 times)