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Offline crazyaga

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Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« on: October 17, 2012, 01:17:14 PM »
I really have no idea why, so someone explain to me please :3

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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 01:45:30 PM »
Because it was pre-rock.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 01:46:42 PM »
Because musical criticism hadn't devolved to its current, name the sub-sub-genre low water mark yet?
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 01:54:41 PM »
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this came out before the Post Rock genre became a genre.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 03:13:15 PM »
Because Phycadelic rock is already a thing. It also doesn't really have any traditional rock instruments in it. The only thing I hear that would make it similar is that it doesn't have much of a song structure.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 03:33:31 PM »
There's no rock instruments at all (which is the biggest thing), the music is clearly eastern inspired (something you virtually never hear in post rock), and there's a pretty heavy emphasis of the vocals. Post rock always contains (sometimes exclusively so) the traditional guitar/bass/drums rock band setup, but focuses on heavily instrumental music with song structures that are more geared towards building the texture and dynamics of a single musical theme rather than a normal verse/chorus structure.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 04:00:54 PM »
Quote from: Sigz on October 17, 2012, 03:33:31 PM
There's no rock instruments at all (which is the biggest thing), the music is clearly eastern inspired (something you virtually never hear in post rock), and there's a pretty heavy emphasis of the vocals. Post rock always contains (sometimes exclusively so) the traditional guitar/bass/drums rock band setup, but focuses on heavily instrumental music with song structures that are more geared towards building the texture and dynamics of a single musical theme rather than a normal verse/chorus structure.
thank you for this awesome explanation :p
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 05:15:30 PM »
It wouldn't even matter if it fit perfectly into the style of music which is post rock.  Post rock represents a collective development into musical styles that started int he 90's, anything from the 80's or earlier simply isn't post rock.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 06:55:23 PM »
Quote from: yorost on October 17, 2012, 05:15:30 PM
It wouldn't even matter if it fit perfectly into the style of music which is post rock.  Post rock represents a collective development into musical styles that started int he 90's, anything from the 80's or earlier simply isn't post rock.

Just because there wasn't the same name back then that we use now doesn't mean the title couldn't still be applied.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 07:35:26 PM »
I wholeheartedly disagree with that notion, and there's probably no point in getting into this conversation.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 07:44:36 PM »
Quote from: glaurung on October 17, 2012, 06:55:23 PM
Quote from: yorost on October 17, 2012, 05:15:30 PM
It wouldn't even matter if it fit perfectly into the style of music which is post rock.  Post rock represents a collective development into musical styles that started int he 90's, anything from the 80's or earlier simply isn't post rock.

Just because there wasn't the same name back then that we use now doesn't mean the title couldn't still be applied.
This. :huh:
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 07:58:23 PM »
Quote from: Jaq on October 17, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
Because musical criticism hadn't devolved to its current, name the sub-sub-genre low water mark yet?


Sigz gave a very good answer, but I'm not sure anything other than this one is required.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 08:02:59 PM »
I wouldn't call post-rock a sub-sub-genre but okay.
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Re: Explain to me why this song is not considered post rock.
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 08:04:28 PM »
Quote from: glaurung on October 17, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
I wouldn't call post-rock a sub-sub-genre but okay.

You don't see the irony in this statement?
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