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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. I'll Take Their F--king Heads
« Reply #245 on: October 09, 2012, 06:49:42 AM »
Pff, I just saw this thread. Following now. Also, your Lulu trolling was succesful! I believed you until I scrolled down :D

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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. I'll Take Their F--king Heads
« Reply #246 on: October 09, 2012, 08:13:13 AM »
Enjoying the end of this list, although I don't like Trivium -at all- but it's all good, you like what you like, right?   :hat

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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #247 on: October 09, 2012, 08:18:55 AM »
06. Judas Priest – Nostradamus (2008)



If there was ever any album that was considered to be Judas Priest’s black sheep (aside from the two albums released with Ripper Owens, who don’t really deserve to be labelled as such either), then that album was Nostradamus. Released as a follow-up to the largely successful and critically acclaimed reunion album Angel of Retribution, Nostradamus took the band into a musical direction that was vastly different and, as it turned out, was not something that the majority of the fans enjoyed. Initially, I was the same opinion, but during I holiday where this was the only album that I had with me, this record grew on me like no other album has done, and I can now safely say that this is my favourite Judas Priest album.

Nostradamus is a 2-CD concept album, telling the story of the seer of the same name in the Middle Ages, who predicted the end of the world and was ridiculed and persecuted for it, only for the world to see his predictions come true after all. Not really a very creative or innovative concept, granted, but it is executed almost flawlessly on this album, so I don’t really mind.

The album generally consists of longer songs (from five minutes upward), with a shorter, more stripped-down interludes (around two minutes) being thrown in between ever other song, usually referencing melodies and themes of previous or upcoming songs, which ties the whole album together, giving it a very cohesive feel. The “real” songs are, unlike Priest’s earlier efforts, more mid-tempo instead of blisteringly fast, though there is a fair share of fast stuff as well, but on the whole, this album is a little slower, yet now less heavy and monumental than any other Priest record. Indeed, the whole album has a very grandiose feel to it, which is often created by many layered keyboards underneath the guitar riffs and vocals, yet it never becomes bombastic in an obnoxious way, though it is often treading the line to it.

The songs one here are very creative in terms of song writing, with every aspect of Judas Priests sound being present: ballads, slower and groovier songs, blisteringly fast riffs and solos – there are even tentative experiments with doom metal (Death) and orchestral work (Exiled, Nostradamus) present on this record, though it mainly focuses on the styles that have been a part of Judas Priest’s catalogue for quite some time and simply expands on them. There is also, if I recall correctly, the only Judas Priest song with no drumming on this album (Lost Love, though there are a few shorter interludes that don’t contain drumming as well), which, while scraping hard on the border of what is acceptable in terms of cheesiness, is a much-welcomed breather of the heaviness of this album.

Really, all tracks on this album are awesome, but Pestilence and Plague deserves a special mention. It is one of my favourite Priest songs and it encompasses the whole band perfectly: aggressive, fast and memorable riff, great verse and chorus melodies by Halford, and an instrumental trade-off between the guitar gods Tipton and Downing that is to die for. The Italian chorus takes a while to get used to, but it really adds another dimension to the song and I wouldn’t want it any other way.

If you’ve written this album off due to negative critics, then I strongly urge you to reconsider and to give this album a chance. This is Priest at their strongest and most diverse, and I couldn’t have wished for a more worthy album to conclude the discography of this amazing band.

Recommended tracks: Revelations, Pestilence and Plague, Death, Lost Love, Exiled, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #248 on: October 09, 2012, 08:25:30 AM »
Damn... another band that I just never took the time/effort to get in to.  But double-damn... I'm like a moth to a flame when it comes to concept albums.  I'll be checking this out.
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #249 on: October 09, 2012, 08:26:54 AM »
Not sure if this is another Lulu trolling :lol

This is a very uneven album for me. A few good tracks, but overall one of my very least favourites by them. I hope they go for another straight ahead metal album next time.
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #250 on: October 09, 2012, 08:38:05 AM »
An(other) album I don't know.
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #251 on: October 09, 2012, 08:44:28 AM »
I couldn't listen to Nostradamus all the time but I enjoy listening to it once in a while. Sometimes seems like a chore to get through. The prophecy is an awesome track. Like Zydar, I'm looking forward to a more straight up metal disc from priest next time around

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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #252 on: October 09, 2012, 08:49:41 AM »
Not sure if this is another Lulu trolling :lol


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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #254 on: October 09, 2012, 09:43:51 AM »
Made my way through disc 1.  It had it's moments, but for the most part I'd have to say I was underwhelmed.
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« Reply #255 on: October 09, 2012, 10:10:42 AM »
Nostradamus really is uneven. The second disc is much more consistent, but I haven't listened all the way through the disc one in four years. Rust in peace, on the other hand, is pretty darn good.  :metal

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« Reply #256 on: October 09, 2012, 10:21:52 AM »
Just to make it clear: this is no trolling, this is 100% serious.

Made my way through disc 1.  It had it's moments, but for the most part I'd have to say I was underwhelmed.

Sadly, I'm not surprised. I've never quite met a person who likes this album as much as I do, and I can see why it would be a chore for some people, but I never had that problem, really, and I've always enjoyed it. :dunno:
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #257 on: October 09, 2012, 10:29:08 AM »
Also, a recap of the list so far:

50. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever            
49. Led Zeppelin - IV                           
48. Scars on Broadway - Scars on Broadway            
47. Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf      
46. Angra - Rebirth                              
45. King Diamond - Abigail                        
44. Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness      
43. Stratovarius - Dreamspace                     
42. Machine Head - The Blackening                  
41. Sum 41 - Chuck                              
40. Rammstein - Reise, Reise                     
39. Deep Purple - Made in Japan                     
38. Placebo - Without You I'm Nothing               
37. Luna Mortis - The Absence                     
36. Pink Floyd - Animals                        
35. die ärzte - Geräusch                        
34. Buckethead - Colma                           
33. Gamma Ray - Land of the Free II                  
32. Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys, Pt. 1         
31. Nick Cave - Murder Ballads                     
30. Placebo - Meds                              
29. Marillion - Clutching at Straws                  
28. Myrath - Desert Call                        
27. Stratovarius - Polaris                        
26. Iron Maiden - A Matter of Life and Death         
25. Praying Mantis - Forever in Time               
24. Avantasia - The Scarecrow                     
23. Devin Townsend - Ocean Machine: Biomech            
22. Black Sabbath - Paranoid                     
21. Haken - Visions                              
20. Judas Priest - Stained Class               
19. Praying Mantis - Time Tells No Lies               
18. Savatage - Poets and Madmen                     
17. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here                  
16. die ärzte - 13                              
15. Symphony X - The Damnation Game                  
14. Metallica - ...And Justice for All               
13. Iced Earth - Alive in Athens                  
12. Rammstein - Mutter                           
11. Megadeth - Countdown to Extinction               
10. Symphony X - The Odyssey                     
09. Metallica - Master of Puppets                  
08. Megadeth - Rust in Peace                     
07. Trivium - Shogun
06. Judas Priest - Nostradamus
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04. :huh:
03. :huh:
02. :huh:
01. :huh:

Anyone who can guess the top spots wins a prize (FlyingBIZKIT doesn't count, I sent him my list by PM once).                              
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #258 on: October 09, 2012, 11:29:03 AM »
I would expect some Dream Theater at some point.
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« Reply #259 on: October 09, 2012, 11:30:39 AM »
Hoping for some Images & Words or SFAM. Or at least 6DOIT.
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« Reply #260 on: October 09, 2012, 11:37:13 AM »
Dream Theater, Rush, and maybe some more Rammstein.
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #261 on: October 09, 2012, 11:39:47 AM »
Just popping in to say the convincing Lulu troll was the best thing to happen to a top 50 thread in quite awhile, well done.
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Rejected Messiah
« Reply #262 on: October 09, 2012, 12:15:16 PM »
Absolutely astonished to see that Judas Priest album even ON someone's top 50 list, never mind #6  :o


I literally gave my copy of it away, but hey, if you like it, you like it.   :)

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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Some More Rather Obscure Sh-t
« Reply #263 on: October 09, 2012, 12:24:42 PM »
05. Dream Theater – Images and Words (1992)



Coming in at the start of my Top 5, we have Dream Theater’s breakthrough album and what many still consider to be their best – and there is certainly nothing wrong with that sentiment, because this is an album that is awesome from start to finish. When Dream and Day Unite is a great album, I think, but still, this is the album with which Dream Theater were born, so to speak.

Every single musician, is on fire on this album: Myung’s basslines are creative and jaw-dropping when you actually seek them out, but they blend into the sound of the album perfectly, Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci play like men possessed, yet never getting lost in the songs, but instead contributing to them, and Moore and keys are always there, shaping the whole record and coming into the foreground at exactly the right time. However, this is nothing new, because all these elements were all present on the debut album, even though the band stepped up things quite a notch on this album.

What really sets this album apart from the debut (aside from the production, which is miles better than that of When Dream and Day Unite, and even the infamous triggered snare doesn’t bother me in the slightest), however, is the new guy behind the microphone. Charlie wasn’t a bad singer by any means, but what James LaBrie brings to this album is something on a whole new level – the was that he effortlessly, yes even gracefully nails the highs and lows as though it were no more difficult than talking normally, and the way that manages to bring the lyrics to life is something that Dominici never managed to do.

Of course, the best musicians of the world would be worthless if there the musical material weren’t up to scratch, but anyone who has heard this album will affirm that the album is anything but musically weak. Both lyrically and musically, this album features some of Dream Theater’s best, with especially Moore’s work standing out from the rest (he was always my favourite Dream Theater lyricist, and Surrounded and Wait for Sleep are some of his best work). The Myung-penned Learning to Live, while still awesome, is also massively overrated, and has nothing on Moore’s lyrics, in my opinion.

Really, I doubt that there is one person on this board that doesn’t know this album, but to those that don’t: this album isn’t one that clicks instantly, at least for me it didn’t, so if you’re feeling a little underwhelmed after the first listen, don’t give up and give it another chance – the end result is worth it in spades.

Recommended tracks: Pull Me Under, Take the Time, Surrounded, Metropolis, Wait for Sleep, Learning to Live
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Re: Scorpion's Top 50 Albums v. Some More Rather Obscure Sh-t
« Reply #264 on: October 09, 2012, 12:32:29 PM »
Didn't see that coming.....



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« Reply #265 on: October 09, 2012, 12:53:13 PM »
Great album.
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« Reply #266 on: October 09, 2012, 01:04:48 PM »
Images And Words :hefdaddy

My favourite DT album and a Top 10 album overall.
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« Reply #267 on: October 09, 2012, 01:22:42 PM »
The album that started it all for me.

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« Reply #268 on: October 09, 2012, 01:44:24 PM »
Fantastic album!
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« Reply #269 on: October 09, 2012, 02:42:00 PM »
I hear there's this bass solo, where he does this bass solo...
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« Reply #270 on: October 09, 2012, 03:45:30 PM »
Love Priest but Nostradamus is not a good album by anyone's standards. Played it through once and that was all I could manage. Still, if you love it it's yours.

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« Reply #271 on: October 09, 2012, 05:37:44 PM »
Another DT album to come and another Maiden album.

I&W is a safe choice, but it's too low :P
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« Reply #273 on: October 09, 2012, 09:38:47 PM »
Yeah, it topped my list.  Let's see, what else is still to come.  I like the 6 Degrees call.  Maiden... maybe.  Another Townshend?  No Nightwish, Redemption or Ayreon on the list?  Aquarius? 

What about the home country - Vanden Plas?  Don't think BtB or FR would show up, since you skipped out on their concert for a family vaca.

Any more guesses would probably just seem silly (ier).
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« Reply #274 on: October 10, 2012, 01:19:41 AM »
Yeah, it topped my list.  Let's see, what else is still to come.  I like the 6 Degrees call.  Maiden... maybe.  Another Townshend?  No Nightwish, Redemption or Ayreon on the list?  Aquarius? 

What about the home country - Vanden Plas?  Don't think BtB or FR would show up, since you skipped out on their concert for a family vaca.

Any more guesses would probably just seem silly (ier).

All great bands, sure, but even though there's a lot of stuff that I got from DTF on the list, the Top spots are stuff that I've known and loved for far longer, so it's not any of those. Though do keep your eyes open for the honourable mentions, you mind find something there.

Also, the next review is a bitch to write, but I'll have it up sometime soon, in the next three hours.
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« Reply #275 on: October 10, 2012, 01:54:05 AM »
04. System of a Down – Toxicity (2001)



Alright, coming in at #4, we have one of the, if not the metal album that I have known the longest, even though to describe this is metal is while, true, also completely insufficient. For those of you that don’t know System of a Down, this is basically metal with plenty of weird shit thrown in, though even that doesn’t aptly describe the band’s sound, but that’s the best I can do at the moment.

Toxicity is the band’s second album, right after their self-titled debut, and it certainly upped things several notches. While the debut was already a great album and showed the world the amazing potential of the band, there were still a few duds here and there that kept the album from transcending good and becoming great or even fantastic.

This is not the case for Toxicity, which is a great album from start to finish. From the opener Prison Song on, you know that this album is going to be a) pretty much all over the place and b) fucking awesome. It’s a short album by modern standards (44 minutes), but every minute on this album is perfectly used and the songs never feel as though they should have been more fleshed-out or anything.

The performance on this album is great, with especially Serj’s and Daron’s vocal tradeoffs being noteworthy. The song writing is no less excellent, with every song being rich with metaphorical, even poetic lyrics that cover pretty much every topic from complete silliness (Bounce) to highly-interesting issues like police brutality, drug abuse and the meaning of life, and yet the songs never come across as pretentious.

There isn’t really a lot more to say about this album, mainly because the musical style of this record defies any classification that I know of. It’s a great album, though perhaps not for everyone, and only listening to it can really tell if you’ll like it or not.

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« Reply #276 on: October 10, 2012, 02:44:23 AM »
NICE! Toxicity is indeed a masterpiece. When I saw the new thread name 'v. WAKE UP!', I thought to myself: 'wait, couldn't that be...?' :)

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« Reply #277 on: October 10, 2012, 02:47:31 AM »
I don't dig on SoaD too much but I had a feeling that's who it was.

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« Reply #278 on: October 10, 2012, 03:10:44 AM »
I never managed to get into System of a down...

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« Reply #279 on: October 10, 2012, 03:31:48 AM »
SOAD is one of the 100000000000000 bands I want to get into. Don't know many songs yet, but sounds pretty cool.