2009/10 WORLD TOUR DISCUSSION THREAD

[Egoist Hedonist]

Gods Of Metal, Italy:

IN THE PRESENCE OF ENEMIES PT. 1
BEYOND THIS LIFE
CONSTANT MOTION
A RITE OF PASSAGE
HOLLOW YEARS
CAUGHT IN A WEB
EROTOMANIA
VOICES
PULL ME UNDER
METROPOLIS

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Cool to see Caught in a Web back into these setlists.

[Jamariquay]

It's pretty awesome to see so much of Awake in these sets, especially with the shorter format.

[PlaysLikeMyung]

It is good to see Awake.

*Crosses fingers for 6:00*

[FabiotheIguana]

It is good to see Awake.

*Crosses fingers for 6:00*

qft

[BlobVanDam]

It's pretty awesome to see so much of Awake in these sets, especially with the shorter format.

And it's good to see them sticking to the good tracks from it That I can handle

[cyberdrummer]

2009-10-22 - Palacio de Cristal - Porto, POR
2009-10-26 - Datchforum - Milan, ITA
2009-10-27 - Palalottomatica - Rome, ITA
2009-10-29 - Future Show Station Arena - Bologna, ITA
2009-10-30 - Palasport - Conegliano, ITA

The final PN Europe dates.

[Zydar]

Perhaps it's some sort of "mini tribute" to the 15th anniversary of Awake or something.

[BlobVanDam]

Doubt it. They were playing Erotomania/Voices a lot at the end of the last tour, and all they've done is throw in one more. There won't be any commemorating Awake. It just isn't the landmark album that there other occasions were.

[cygnusaz]

Doubt it. They were playing Erotomania/Voices a lot at the end of the last tour, and all they've done is throw in one more. There won't be any commemorating Awake. It just isn't the landmark album that there other occasions were.

Not true, I've been a fan of DT since 1989 when I saw them open for Marillion back in my senior year of high school. 20 years ago! Here is a different perspective.... My buddy and I went to the record store the next day and bought 'WDADU', we were blown away. You have to understand back then there was nothing like DT. Maybe Queensryche. Bands like Rush were still doing the 80's synth stuff... However DT vanished after that, of course we didn't know Charlie was out, there was no internet back then, lol.

I forgot about DT until my senior year of college when I heard 'Pull Me Under' on the radio, you have to understand back then that song was EVERYWHERE. If you went to a record store there were cassette singles of PMU and Another Day, lol. Saw DT at the Manhattan Center in NYC the summer after I graduated college and was blown away. 

Around Sept 1994 the radio stations started playing 'Lie' a lot! I mean that song was very popular and MTV and VH1 even showed the video ! When 'Awake' came out I was a first day buyer as I have been with every DT album since. 

'Awake' did very well, in fact it is the best selling DT album since Images & Words, I think it moved around 250,000 copies or so. But remember back then we actually had to get our asses to the record store and buy it. There was no downloading. The radio station also played 'The Silent Man', and 'Caught in a Web' here and there. Can you imagine? 3 new DT songs being played on your local rock station? Never will happen in 2009.

But in 1994 DT were still riding the success from I & W. Saw the show for Awake in NYC in October 1994, great gig but was surpised Kevin Moore was gone! Again, there was no Internet to speak of, he was on the linear notes of the album but the first time I found out he had left was at the concert! 

That's how it was back then, most rock/metal news came from the 'Metal Wire' section of Metal Edge magazine, and it was usually 2 months old, lol.

If you went into any record store back then you would also find the singles for 'Lie' and 'The Silent Man'. Trust me, back in 1994 'Awake' was a pretty big album, and it would behoove DT to commemorate it this fall at the 15 year mark. I can't believe that show I first saw them was 20 years ago.

Enjoy your youth, because it's gone before you know it!

Anyway I have seen every DT tour multiple times, have met them a few times, and have bought every CD (not Mp3) on the release date. They have never let me down, and the only time that I wondered if they were going to fold was when 'Falling Into Infinity' came out.

When they put out 'Scenes from a Memory' I knew DT were in it for the long haul. I still can't believe they have 10 albums out. 'Awake' will always be the 'new' DT album to me, lol.

I'm 37, married, in  a PhD program, accomplished a lot since I was that kid in high school who really didn't want to see Marillion but got dragged along. Instead I got introduced to the most amazing band of all time.

And every girlfriend I've had, including my wife, has hated them. 

[BlobVanDam]

Doubt it. They were playing Erotomania/Voices a lot at the end of the last tour, and all they've done is throw in one more. There won't be any commemorating Awake. It just isn't the landmark album that there other occasions were.

But in 1994 DT were still riding the success from I & W.

I think you missed my point, and this is the part of that post that related to my point. Awake was not a landmark album. It was successful yes, but it didn't do anything that Images and Words hadn't already set up and achieved greater. It didn't sell anywhere near what IaW did, and none of the singles did as well as PMU. It has stood the test of time as one of the higher ranked DT albums, but it wasn't a "landmark" for them.
I enjoyed the story though Great that we still have so many long time fans here

[Rolling Down]

Doubt it. They were playing Erotomania/Voices a lot at the end of the last tour, and all they've done is throw in one more. There won't be any commemorating Awake. It just isn't the landmark album that there other occasions were.

Not true, I've been a fan of DT since 1989 when I saw them open for Marillion back in my senior year of high school. 20 years ago! Here is a different perspective.... My buddy and I went to the record store the next day and bought 'WDADU', we were blown away. You have to understand back then there was nothing like DT. Maybe Queensryche. Bands like Rush were still doing the 80's synth stuff... However DT vanished after that, of course we didn't know Charlie was out, there was no internet back then, lol.

I forgot about DT until my senior year of college when I heard 'Pull Me Under' on the radio, you have to understand back then that song was EVERYWHERE. If you went to a record store there were cassette singles of PMU and Another Day, lol. Saw DT at the Manhattan Center in NYC the summer after I graduated college and was blown away. 

Around Sept 1994 the radio stations started playing 'Lie' a lot! I mean that song was very popular and MTV and VH1 even showed the video ! When 'Awake' came out I was a first day buyer as I have been with every DT album since. 

'Awake' did very well, in fact it is the best selling DT album since Images & Words, I think it moved around 250,000 copies or so. But remember back then we actually had to get our asses to the record store and buy it. There was no downloading. The radio station also played 'The Silent Man', and 'Caught in a Web' here and there. Can you imagine? 3 new DT songs being played on your local rock station? Never will happen in 2009.

But in 1994 DT were still riding the success from I & W. Saw the show for Awake in NYC in October 1994, great gig but was surpised Kevin Moore was gone! Again, there was no Internet to speak of, he was on the linear notes of the album but the first time I found out he had left was at the concert! 

That's how it was back then, most rock/metal news came from the 'Metal Wire' section of Metal Edge magazine, and it was usually 2 months old, lol.

If you went into any record store back then you would also find the singles for 'Lie' and 'The Silent Man'. Trust me, back in 1994 'Awake' was a pretty big album, and it would behoove DT to commemorate it this fall at the 15 year mark. I can't believe that show I first saw them was 20 years ago.

Enjoy your youth, because it's gone before you know it!

Anyway I have seen every DT tour multiple times, have met them a few times, and have bought every CD (not Mp3) on the release date. They have never let me down, and the only time that I wondered if they were going to fold was when 'Falling Into Infinity' came out.

When they put out 'Scenes from a Memory' I knew DT were in it for the long haul. I still can't believe they have 10 albums out. 'Awake' will always be the 'new' DT album to me, lol.

I'm 37, married, in  a PhD program, accomplished a lot since I was that kid in high school who really didn't want to see Marillion but got dragged along. Instead I got introduced to the most amazing band of all time.

And every girlfriend I've had, including my wife, has hated them. 

Great story. And a lot like my DT-life. The differences are that I live in the Netherlands so I didn't attend the (pre)WDADU shows and didn't hear the DT-tracks on the radio. Oh, and my wifes loves DT. She didn't join me to the Gelsenkirchen and Graspop shows but will go with me to the Dusseldorf and/or Rotterdam PN show.

[glaurung]

Hey when they start announcing dates for their North American tour next spring what are the chances of a show in Seattle? I'm certain they won't be coming to Portland as there really isn't a venue big enough. Seattle is the only place close enough for me to go see them.   

[GuineaPig]

They've been to Seattle in 2003, 2004, and 2008. 

I'd say there's a good chance.

[skydivingninja]

Has anyone seen Cynic's set from the recent dates?  Its probably most of Traced in Air with a Focus song or two but I'm still curious.

[Disappear]

unofficial setlist from Prague 30/06

IN THE PRESENCE OF ENEMIES PT.1.
BEYOND THIS LIFE
PANIC ATTACK
A NIGHTMARE TO REMEMBER
HOLLOW YEARS
CONSTANT MOTION
EROTOMANIA
VOICES
A RITE OF PASSAGE
THE SPIRIT CARRIES ON
AS I AM
-----------
MEDLEY:
I. METROPOLIS
II. LEARNING TO LIVE
III. ACOS: THE CRIMSON SUNSET


nice to see ANTR introduced to the setlist. best one so far.

[dech2410]

if they did that, I´m going to go for random killing

[SeRoX]

unofficial setlist from Prague 30/06

IN THE PRESENCE OF ENEMIES PT.1.
BEYOND THIS LIFE
PANIC ATTACK
A NIGHTMARE TO REMEMBER
HOLLOW YEARS
CONSTANT MOTION
EROTOMANIA
VOICES
A RITE OF PASSAGE
THE SPIRIT CARRIES ON
AS I AM
-----------
MEDLEY:
I. METROPOLIS
II. LEARNING TO LIVE
III. ACOS: THE CRIMSON SUNSET


nice to see ANTR introduced to the setlist. best one so far.

Hımmm ANTR before Wıther... Could be killing!

[Jamariquay]

unofficial setlist from Prague 30/06

IN THE PRESENCE OF ENEMIES PT.1.
BEYOND THIS LIFE
PANIC ATTACK
A NIGHTMARE TO REMEMBER
HOLLOW YEARS
CONSTANT MOTION
EROTOMANIA
VOICES
A RITE OF PASSAGE
THE SPIRIT CARRIES ON
AS I AM
-----------
MEDLEY:
I. METROPOLIS
II. LEARNING TO LIVE
III. ACOS: THE CRIMSON SUNSET


nice to see ANTR introduced to the setlist. best one so far.

What a weird spot for A Nightmare To Remember.

[Sixtease]

Confirmed, this is what they played.

[hefdaddy42]

Hımmm ANTR before Wıther... Could be killing!

Could b.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

HOLY CRAP! ANTR!!

[hefdaddy42]

Talk about juxtaposition.

A Nightmare To Remember

followed by

Hollow Years

[Zeltar]

unofficial setlist from Prague 30/06

IN THE PRESENCE OF ENEMIES PT.1.
BEYOND THIS LIFE
PANIC ATTACK
A NIGHTMARE TO REMEMBER
HOLLOW YEARS
CONSTANT MOTION
EROTOMANIA
VOICES
A RITE OF PASSAGE
THE SPIRIT CARRIES ON
AS I AM
-----------
MEDLEY:
I. METROPOLIS
II. LEARNING TO LIVE
III. ACOS: THE CRIMSON SUNSET


nice to see ANTR introduced to the setlist. best one so far.

What a weird spot for A Nightmare To Remember.

Agreed. I think it'd be awkward in any spot besides the opener.

[BlobVanDam]

Cool. I wasn't expecting them to bring out ANTR until the PN tour, but that explains why they were practicing it in sound check. Of course it's not going to be the same without their video show

[SystematicThought]

Do you guys think that they will play songs from Black Clouds and Silver Linings in the US for Prog Nation. Like TCOT and such

[BlobVanDam]

Well they've already played A Nightmare to Remember now, so I think it's highly probable they'll start playing most of them on the PN tour. The only reason they aren't playing them now is because DT consider this leg of the tour the "warmup" leg, and because it started before the album actually came out.

[ResultsMayVary]

Well they've already played A Nightmare to Remember now, so I think it's highly probable they'll start playing most of them on the PN tour. The only reason they aren't playing them now is because DT consider this leg of the tour the "warmup" leg, and because it started before the album actually came out.

Expect them to pull out Wither and TCoT on the U.S. and Europe PN legs. I think they won't play TBoT at LEAST until next year (if MP can do it then though) and they won't play The Shattered Fortress until they start playing the 12-Step Suite. That's my opinion on the subject.

[Disappear]

After the lineup change, DT better give us our money's worth. I am expecting TCOT to be played at the end of every show.

[SystematicThought]

After the lineup change, DT better give us our money's worth. I am expecting TCOT to be played at the end of every show.

Actually after the line-up announcement came, I was hoping it was going to be just ZPZ and DT. I was about to say YES 2 hour show. But I like Bigelf, Scale the Summit should get a smaller set time though in my opinion. They are an instrumental band.

Thanks Blob too, I didn't know it was considered a warm-up leg

[Disappear]

Oh well, I get 5 bands at my show so I ain't complainin'.

[James.v6]

Czech show.... GREAT show!!!
A Nightmare To Remember live is beautiful....really  !

[tri.ad]

Nice. Didn't expect them to play ANTR to play so early, but it's cool.

[James.v6]

A Nightmare To Remember live here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsiCNK5BTFw

[BlobVanDam]

Awesome. You can tell he was on JP's side, because all I can hear is guitar
Sounding really good though. It definitely captures the vibe and energy of the studio recording perfectly. That middle section sounds so eery.