Author Topic: 2009/10 WORLD TOUR DISCUSSION THREAD (Read 415684 times)

Mladen · « **Reply #1855 on:** October 25, 2009, 08:19:41 AM »

Thanks a lot. Makes sence.

perfey · « **Reply #1856 on:** October 25, 2009, 09:34:37 AM »

That's cool, I've always wondered that too.

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1857 on:** October 26, 2009, 04:56:51 PM »

2009-10-26 - Datchforum - Milan, ITA

1. A Nightmare To Remember
2. The Mirror
3. Lie
4. Prophets of War
5. Wither
6. The Dance of Eternity
7. One Last Time
8. The Spirit Carries On
9. In The Name Of God
---------------------------
10. The Count Of Tuscany

SystematicThought · « **Reply #1858 on:** October 26, 2009, 05:31:59 PM »

Scenes From A Memory night. Good setlist. Would that be the most amount of songs they have played this tour for a set?

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1859 on:** October 26, 2009, 05:34:22 PM »

On ProgNation, yeah.

Mladen · « **Reply #1860 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:13:50 AM »

Now THIS is the best one so far.

lah_hannibal · « **Reply #1861 on:** October 27, 2009, 01:18:47 PM »

Quote from: cyberdrummer on October 26, 2009, 04:56:51 PM

2009-10-26 - Datchforum - Milan, ITA

1. A Nightmare To Remember
2. The Mirror
3. Lie
4. Prophets of War
5. Wither
6. The Dance of Eternity
7. One Last Time
8. The Spirit Carries On
9. In The Name Of God
---------------------------
10. The Count Of Tuscany

Why didn't the play such a long set at the other shows?

Nick · « **Reply #1862 on:** October 27, 2009, 01:37:05 PM »

Is it really that long? A good number of those songs aren't as long as many others which have been played this tour.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #1863 on:** October 27, 2009, 01:39:58 PM »

I would have suffered through Prophets of War to see the rest of that unbelievable set.

SilentFox · « **Reply #1864 on:** October 27, 2009, 02:50:05 PM »

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on October 27, 2009, 01:39:58 PM

I would have suffered through Prophets of War to see the rest of that unbelievable set.

Despite being a lame studio song, it is a lot of fun live.

GuineaPig · « **Reply #1865 on:** October 27, 2009, 03:45:29 PM »

Quote from: Nick on October 27, 2009, 01:37:05 PM

Is it really that long? A good number of those songs aren't as long as many others which have been played this tour.

My iTunes tells me 1:31 on the dot, so not really longer than the average set, no.

Nick · « **Reply #1866 on:** October 27, 2009, 04:10:57 PM »

Well then, I actually saw two shows that were 10 minutes longer than that, even though that set had the most tracks played.

73109 · « **Reply #1867 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:40:47 PM »

Quote from: SilentFox on October 27, 2009, 02:50:05 PM

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on October 27, 2009, 01:39:58 PM
I would have suffered through Prophets of War to see the rest of that unbelievable set.

Despite being a lame studio song, it is a lot of fun live.

This. It is pretty cool live, and is actually one of the stand out songs from the Philly show I saw.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #1868 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:48:10 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on October 27, 2009, 07:40:47 PM

Quote from: SilentFox on October 27, 2009, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Ultimetalhead on October 27, 2009, 01:39:58 PM
I would have suffered through Prophets of War to see the rest of that unbelievable set.

Despite being a lame studio song, it is a lot of fun live.

This. It is pretty cool live, and is actually one of the stand out songs from the Philly show I saw.

You saw flawless Voices and Metropolis and Tuscany and PoW (where James messed up) was the stand out?

ariich · « **Reply #1869 on:** October 28, 2009, 01:42:20 AM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on October 27, 2009, 09:48:10 PM

Quote from: 73109 on October 27, 2009, 07:40:47 PM
Quote from: SilentFox on October 27, 2009, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Ultimetalhead on October 27, 2009, 01:39:58 PM
I would have suffered through Prophets of War to see the rest of that unbelievable set.

Despite being a lame studio song, it is a lot of fun live.

This. It is pretty cool live, and is actually one of the stand out songs from the Philly show I saw.

You saw flawless Voices and Metropolis and Tuscany and PoW (where James messed up) was the stand out?

It's a really fun song live. The others are far superior songs, but they're simply not FUN like PoW is.

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1870 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:09:38 AM »

2009-10-27 - Palalottomatica - Rome, ITA

1. A Nightmare to Remember
2. A Rite of Passage
3. Hollow Years (extended)
4. Erotomania
5. Voices
6. Forsaken
7. Take the Time
--------------------------
8. The Count of Tuscany

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1871 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:11:10 AM »

That's a nice setlist.

Nick · « **Reply #1872 on:** October 28, 2009, 04:39:02 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 28, 2009, 03:11:10 AM

That's a nice setlist.

TAC · « **Reply #1873 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:25:08 AM »

It's amazing how short 90 minutes looks on paper.

PlaysLikeMyung · « **Reply #1874 on:** October 28, 2009, 06:53:00 AM »

Which is why I really really want this headlining tour

perfey · « **Reply #1875 on:** October 28, 2009, 07:55:47 AM »

No Metropolis?

skydivingninja · « **Reply #1876 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:00:01 PM »

Does anyone else think it would be a better setlist move to switch The Count of Tuscany, now usually in the encore spot, with the song right before it, which is usually something like ITNOG, As I Am, or Take the Time, so that the older songs would be the encore? I think part of what made my first DT concert so memorable was that Metropolis was the encore, and to see a classic DT song like that in the last spot was amazing. TCOT's good, don't get me wrong, but I think an encore song should be something loved from the back catalogue.

TAC · « **Reply #1877 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:15:41 PM »

Sky, I don't disagree with what you are saying, but if you were lucky enough to get ITNOG & TCOT in one show, it wouldn't matter what order they were played in.

DT has done this before, right, using ITNOG as the last song on most of the TOT tour.

kefka · « **Reply #1878 on:** October 28, 2009, 04:10:15 PM »

Quote from: TAC on October 28, 2009, 03:15:41 PM

Sky, I don't disagree with what you are saying, but if you were lucky enough to get ITNOG & TCOT in one show, it wouldn't matter what order they were played in.

DT has done this before, right, using ITNOG as the last song on most of the TOT tour.

in maryland, we got the return of ITNOG, and the encore of TCOT, and they worked really really well in their positions. ITNOG is a fantastic song, but the encore of TCOT, particularly the end where everyone is singing, is a much better way to close the show.

SilentFox · « **Reply #1879 on:** October 28, 2009, 04:18:47 PM »

I think that certain songs should be expected, such as ANtR, RoP, and TCoT, but I think it's best when the encore is a surprise. My suggestion would be to keep ANtR and RoP as the top two, TCoT as the closer, and have the encore best something that changes frequently, instead of having a set encore.

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1880 on:** October 28, 2009, 07:31:39 PM »

It was best in 2005, when ITNOG was the closer for the first set in London. Then TSCO and LtL for the encore.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #1881 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:59:59 PM »

I've seen them both as closer and I've got to say that I think Metropolis left me with a better feeling at the end. Tuscany is great but it's best to end with a song that EVERYONE loves if you can. I'm sure 95% of DT fans love TCoT but everyone seems to think Metropolis is amazing.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1882 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:46:37 PM »

I like having TCOT is the encore if just for the fact it's unexpected. It's so common to have the old favourite as the encore, but it's cool seeing them break the tradition and do something different.

SilentFox · « **Reply #1883 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:44:16 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 29, 2009, 09:46:37 PM

I like having TCOT is the encore if just for the fact it's unexpected. It's so common to have the old favourite as the encore, but it's cool seeing them break the tradition and do something different.

Yes, that's true, they do break the tradition. However, my point is that while it was unexpected at the beginning of PN09, it has become routine and predictable, save for a few shows that had other encores. I think an encore historically is something that is supposed to be a surprise, not something that should be expected. It would be interesting to see them mix it up more often.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1884 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:50:20 AM »

Well the encore has not been a surprise for any band for a long time, because it's now obligatory rather than a true surprise.
Many bands play the same encore song, so I have no problem with them using the same song every show, I just think it's just cool that they're not following the standard, and it's also good to see them have so much faith in their newer material.

SilentFox · « **Reply #1885 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:52:13 AM »

Speaking of encores, has they ever had a double encore?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1886 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:53:32 AM »

Well they've played multiple songs as the encore, but I assume you mean play an encore, leave the stage, then come back again for a second encore? Not sure that they've ever done that, but hopefully someone can give a conclusive answer on that.

SilentFox · « **Reply #1887 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:54:16 AM »

Yeah.

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1888 on:** October 30, 2009, 02:40:34 AM »

They did on several of the European TOT tour shows, including this one:

https://www.mikeportnoy.com/dates/tourography/?show=733

Train of Thought World Tour - European Leg
1/17/2004 London, England

1. As I Am
2. Beyond This Life (w/ extended improv section)
3. Endless Sacrifice
4. Caught in a Web (w/ drum solo)
5. This Dying Soul
6. The Great Debate
7. Finally Free
~~~intermission~~~
8. piano solo/
9. Death On Two Legs (Queen)
10. Honor Thy Father
11. Another Day
12. Only a Matter of Time
A Mind Beside Itself:
13. I Erotomania
14. II Voices (abridged)
15. III The Silent Man (electric version)
16. In the Name of God
~~~1st encore~~~
17. Trial of Tears
~~~2nd encore~~~
18. Metropolis part 1

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #1889 on:** October 30, 2009, 02:45:40 AM »

2009-10-29 - Future Show Station Arena - Bologna, ITA

1. A Nightmare To Remember
2. A Rite of Passage
3. Hollow Years (extended)
4. Erotomania
5. Voices
6. In the Name of God
------------------------
7. The Count of Tuscany

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