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What are the 3 best songs on Clockwork Angels?

Caravan
71 (32.7%)
BU2B
46 (21.2%)
Clockwork Angels
86 (39.6%)
The Anarchist
46 (21.2%)
Carnies
20 (9.2%)
Halo Effect
11 (5.1%)
Seven Cities of Gold
21 (9.7%)
The Wreckers
47 (21.7%)
Headlong Flight
87 (40.1%)
BU2B2
4 (1.8%)
Wish Them Well
16 (7.4%)
The Garden
133 (61.3%)

Total Members Voted: 217

pg1067

Quote from: King Postwhore on February 21, 2024, 09:11:18 AM
I love History of the World: Part 1

Same.  I tried watching the second one that came out a few years ago and turned it off after about 20 minutes.  It was bloody awful.

King Postwhore

Quote from: pg1067 on February 21, 2024, 09:12:11 AM
Quote from: King Postwhore on February 21, 2024, 09:11:18 AM
I love History of the World: Part 1

Same.  I tried watching the second one that came out a few years ago and turned it off after about 20 minutes.  It was bloody awful.

Thankfully, I did not watch it. 
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Setlist Scotty

Dunno if they've been mentioned here before or not, but I just happened to come across this video of the drum solo from the tribute band "The Rush Experience" - pretty impressive, especially given that he has the electronic kit in the back on the rotating platform. Didn't expect that from a tribute band!  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJcndVE5S08

I did check out a few other videos afterward. Looks like they used to be known as The Omega Concern and had a different guitarist. Props to them for doing it as a trio, although "Geddy"'s vocals aren't as strong as the real Geddy, or at the very least they don't cut through the mix as well. Nonetheless I'm still impressed.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

hunnus2000

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on February 21, 2024, 09:42:20 PM
Dunno if they've been mentioned here before or not, but I just happened to come across this video of the drum solo from the tribute band "The Rush Experience" - pretty impressive, especially given that he has the electronic kit in the back on the rotating platform. Didn't expect that from a tribute band!  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJcndVE5S08

I did check out a few other videos afterward. Looks like they used to be known as The Omega Concern and had a different guitarist. Props to them for doing it as a trio, although "Geddy"'s vocals aren't as strong as the real Geddy, or at the very least they don't cut through the mix as well. Nonetheless I'm still impressed.

Speaking of Tribute bands: we are going to see Thunderhead in St. Louis in March. I've seen a little of them (couldn't make it for the entire show a couple of years ago but they are indeed quite talented. They are a 3 piece and pull off their parts very well.

That said, I've always thought that being part of a Tribute band is a waste of talent but to each their own.

Stadler

Quote from: hunnus2000 on February 22, 2024, 06:35:45 AM
Quote from: Setlist Scotty on February 21, 2024, 09:42:20 PM
Dunno if they've been mentioned here before or not, but I just happened to come across this video of the drum solo from the tribute band "The Rush Experience" - pretty impressive, especially given that he has the electronic kit in the back on the rotating platform. Didn't expect that from a tribute band!  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJcndVE5S08

I did check out a few other videos afterward. Looks like they used to be known as The Omega Concern and had a different guitarist. Props to them for doing it as a trio, although "Geddy"'s vocals aren't as strong as the real Geddy, or at the very least they don't cut through the mix as well. Nonetheless I'm still impressed.

Speaking of Tribute bands: we are going to see Thunderhead in St. Louis in March. I've seen a little of them (couldn't make it for the entire show a couple of years ago but they are indeed quite talented. They are a 3 piece and pull off their parts very well.

That said, I've always thought that being part of a Tribute band is a waste of talent but to each their own.

It's big money, even if it isn't pure artistic creation.  Up this way (the northeast) tribute bands are a big deal.  "Get The Led Out" plays the same venue as Dream Theater has played for the last 18 tours (the Oakdale).   I've seen The Musical Box each of the last four tours they've done, and they've sold out every show.

T-ski

Bless those YouTube algorithms.....

Acoustic cover of "Tom Sawyer" that is most amazing.....

https://youtu.be/tU-FiFkwY3g?si=zZZzKAxzodWwhzJs

Zydar

An hour of Geddy's appearance at Massey Hall, together with Alex, on his book tour. A pro-shot video from CBC Music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tm2oFOEtV0

I could listen to their banter forever.

Anguyen92

I thought I might share this.  I’m in a barcade in Cleveland and I found a Rush pinball machine.  It doesn’t work though!!!


pg1067

Quote from: Anguyen92 on March 09, 2024, 11:43:20 AM
I thought I might share this.  I'm in a barcade in Cleveland and I found a Rush pinball machine.  It doesn't work though!!!



Nice!  Supposedly, there are a few in the OC.  There's a "locator" at the manufacturer's website.  I haven't gotten around to actually trying to find one.

ytserush

Quote from: Zydar on March 09, 2024, 01:06:50 AM
An hour of Geddy's appearance at Massey Hall, together with Alex, on his book tour. A pro-shot video from CBC Music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tm2oFOEtV0

I could listen to their banter forever.

This is on a whole other level from the fan shot video that's out there from Massey Hall.

coz

Quote from: Zydar on March 09, 2024, 01:06:50 AM
An hour of Geddy's appearance at Massey Hall, together with Alex, on his book tour. A pro-shot video from CBC Music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tm2oFOEtV0

I could listen to their banter forever.
Thanks Zydar.  That was a treat to watch.  :tup

ProfessorPeart

Quote from: ProfessorPeart on November 14, 2023, 11:17:53 AMbeul ni teh efac = Lube In The Face / That has to be wrong.  :lol / EDIT: Oh, it's Blue! I'm an idiot.
Quote from: Indiscipline on November 14, 2023, 02:26:25 PMPardon the interruption, but I just had to run in and celebrate the majesty of Lube in the Face as highest moment in roulette history.

devieira73

Totally understandable. I just hope they still have interest in create new music together.

TheOutlawXanadu

I wonder if they might ever do, like, a mini-tour where they play two nights in Toronto, New York, and Los Angeles over a couple of weeks or something. Totally makes sense why Alex doesn't want to do a full tour though. Being 70 and just sitting around in random city hotels sounds kind of terrible. :lol

pg1067

I could see some sort of residency.  Obviously, they should do whatever it is they want to do, but my personal preference would be that they leave the legacy as it is.

hunnus2000

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on March 22, 2024, 08:08:25 AM
I wonder if they might ever do, like, a mini-tour where they play two nights in Toronto, New York, and Los Angeles over a couple of weeks or something. Totally makes sense why Alex doesn't want to do a full tour though. Being 70 and just sitting around in random city hotels sounds kind of terrible. :lol

This would be ideal to me. Maybe somewhere between 8 and 10 shows spanning the States but they need to hit the mid-west!  :biggrin:

ytserush

Quote from: ProfessorPeart on March 20, 2024, 06:58:20 AM
Alex says he has no interest in touring.

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/alex-lifeson-rush-reunion-not-interested/

He's been that way. Apparently the hints weren't working. One-offs /special events still on the table.


Architeuthis

This guy is absolutely amazing, what a great tribute to G.U.P. Has a great voice too. Thanks for the link..

ytserush

Quote from: Architeuthis on April 14, 2024, 02:38:05 PM
This guy is absolutely amazing, what a great tribute to G.U.P. Has a great voice too. Thanks for the link..

Totally. I wonder how long it takes to put something like that together.

pg1067

If GUP had actually been produced like this, Stads and I wouldn't bitch about it.

Stadler

Quote from: pg1067 on April 23, 2024, 04:58:38 PM
If GUP had actually been produced like this, Stads and I wouldn't bitch about it.

100% percent.  I went right to what is for me the worst part of the record (that lame-o synth drum fill before the "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..." section of Red Sector A) and while he still had a bit of effect on the drums, it was so much more powerful.  I love that version.

(And I was surprised; with these videos I almost ALWAYS have a problem with the vocals, but I really dug this guy's voice on this.).

Does he have a CD of this?

romdrums

Red Sector A gave me chills.  :o Holy shit this guy is good!

Also, that lefty Rick on The Enemy Within ain't cheap!

What's really interesting to me overall is that he plays drums right-handed, but guitar and bass left-handed. That's not a combination you see that often, if ever!

TAC

Quote from: Stadler on April 24, 2024, 06:21:55 AM
100% percent.  I went right to what is for me the worst part of the record (that lame-o synth drum fill before the "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..." section of Red Sector A) and while he still had a bit of effect on the drums, it was so much more powerful.  I love that version.

I think that the recording of GUP is definitely a minus, but I've been able to cut right through it and recognize that I do like most of the songs that are buried there.

Somewhere In Time is Iron Maiden's Grace Under Pressure.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

pg1067

Quote from: romdrums on April 24, 2024, 06:28:37 AM
Also, that lefty Rick on The Enemy Within ain't cheap!

What's really interesting to me overall is that he plays drums right-handed, but guitar and bass left-handed. That's not a combination you see that often, if ever!

Maybe he borrowed the bass from my namesake.  And how often do you see guys who play guitar/bass and also drums?


Quote from: TAC on April 24, 2024, 06:28:44 AM
I think that the recording of GUP is definitely a minus, but I've been able to cut right through it and recognize that I do like most of the songs that are buried there.

When YYNOT started playing The Body Electric (a song I have always disliked), it really kicked in for me how much better GUP could have been with better production.  It really highlighted how bad a decision it was for Rush to completely cut ties with Terry Brown and Paul Northfield.

The Letter M

I've been listening to my live compilation of the GUP Tour, and it's amazing how much better the songs sounded in the live setting.

I'm still hoping for a GUP 40th Anniversary box set this year with a full GUP soundboard show included. That Tour is notable for being the last tour where the band played every new song live on that tour (all of which I've also included on my "Live In North America" compilation, which has songs from Toronto, Largo, and Milwaukee).

-Marc.

HOF

GUP sounding like the prior Rush albums would take away some of the character of that record that makes it what it is. It might have been fine like that, but I think the sound they got was perfect for the themes of the album and the time period. It would be boring if all the Rush albums sounded the same (which the Brown albums all generally did, with some notable improvements in quality over time).

Puppies_On_Acid

Quote from: HOF on April 24, 2024, 11:02:34 AM
GUP sounding like the prior Rush albums would take away some of the character of that record that makes it what it is. It might have been fine like that, but I think the sound they got was perfect for the themes of the album and the time period. It would be boring if all the Rush albums sounded the same (which the Brown albums all generally did, with some notable improvements in quality over time).
I generally agree with the bolded part, with 2 exceptions. I wish Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels sounded like the Terry Brown albums. That would have been a major improvement. I understand what happened (but not how it happened) with the Vapor Trails album. It was recorded too hot/loud and therefore the original masters were too loud. Only thing that would fix that is a re-record. I have no idea what happened with Clockwork Angels...
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HOF

Quote from: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on April 24, 2024, 11:09:20 AM
I generally agree with the bolded part, with 2 exceptions. I wish Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels sounded like the Terry Brown albums. That would have been a major improvement. I understand what happened (but not how it happened) with the Vapor Trails album. It was recorded too hot/loud and therefore the original masters were too loud. Only thing that would fix that is a re-record. I have no idea what happened with Clockwork Angels...

Well, yeah, I think if you could have given it any sort of competent recording/mixing it would have been better. I'm talking more about the character of the sound than the quality of the sound if that makes sense.

nick_z

Quote from: HOF on April 24, 2024, 11:02:34 AM
GUP sounding like the prior Rush albums would take away some of the character of that record that makes it what it is. It might have been fine like that, but I think the sound they got was perfect for the themes of the album and the time period.

Agree with this. I don't love the production on GUP, but at the same time I feel it fits it perfectly. What a fantastic album.

Stadler

Quote from: HOF on April 24, 2024, 11:02:34 AM
GUP sounding like the prior Rush albums would take away some of the character of that record that makes it what it is. It might have been fine like that, but I think the sound they got was perfect for the themes of the album and the time period. It would be boring if all the Rush albums sounded the same (which the Brown albums all generally did, with some notable improvements in quality over time).

For me, I'm with you all. I really am.  I don't want all the Rush albums to sound the same.  And they don't.  And it's not the synths, or the Police-like (being kind) guitars.  I kind of really came to appreciate Alex on those records because it showed a real creativity to his playing, the way he adapted so completely to the music around him.

But p/g is the ONLY record in the Rush catalogue that utterly and completely emasculated the second best drummer in rock history.   For me, that is an unforgivable sin.   I get it when Bill Bruford did the electronic drum thing; it suited his style. I never thought of Bruford in the same way as I thought of Peart, Collins, Bonham or even his successor, Alan White.  I still always point to that one fill in Red Sector A before the "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..."   FOR ME, that should have been EPIC.  I get it, artistic choices, and I wouldn't have that any other way, but that doesn't mean I have to love them. 

ReaperKK

This is probably a controversial take but a large chunk of Rush albums have terrible production and really do a disservice to the music.

Architeuthis

Quote from: ReaperKK on April 25, 2024, 05:44:14 AM
This is probably a controversial take but a large chunk of Rush albums have terrible production and really do a disservice to the music.
Kind of hit and miss. Vapor Trails is a casualty of bad production.  I like the sound of most of their albums but I know.what you mean. Thin sounding production in the late eighties at times. Also, their last album Clockwork Angels being a bit muddy sounding.
Also the Clockwork Angels tour was the worst live mix I've ever heard at a Rush concert. I wonder what the heck happened?? Neal's drum mix was muffled and undefined, same with the whole band.  :mehlin

pg1067

Quote from: ReaperKK on April 25, 2024, 05:44:14 AM
This is probably a controversial take but a large chunk of Rush albums have terrible production and really do a disservice to the music.

I don't think I'd argue with that.  For years and years, Moving Pictures was the album I used to set levels on a stereo/graphic EQ.  Every instrument was perfectly audible and clear, and there was breathing room in the mix.  Signals wasn't quite as good, and then things went south when Terry Brown left.  Presto and the '90s albums were better, and the three 21st Century albums were not good (S&A was probably the best of the three from a production standpoint).  I think a lot of it had to do with Geddy's stylistic change where he started doing a lot more strumming (in addition to all the brickwalling that was happening), which took up a lot more space in the mix.

TheHoveringSojourn808

Neither here nor there, but my go-to album for balancing levels is, and always will be, Aja by Steely Dan. pg's post made me think of it :lol
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